# Domestic terrorists take aim at health care reform

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 24, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568 "2010-03-24T02:11:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/21 "2010-03-24T18:16:52Z")

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Hum. This guy lives about 10 minutes from me. I do believe I’m going to troll the shit out of his blog and tell him what a fucked up weasel he is.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/22 "2010-03-24T18:18:37Z")

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Yeah, no violence incited by the tea parties here…

[Gasline severed at Congressman’s brother’s house](http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/damage_at_home_of_perriello_brother_under_investigation/54038)

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> Federal and local authorities are investigating a severed gas line at the home of U.S. Rep. Tom Perriello’s brother, discovered the day after Tea Party activists posted the address online so opponents could “drop by” and “express their thanks” for Perriello’s vote in favor of health care reform.

It should probably be noted that the tea partiers who posted the address thought it was Congressman Pierello’s.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/23 "2010-03-24T19:26:45Z")

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[Death threats made against Democrats and their families](http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34907.html):

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> Reps. Louise Slaughter and [**[COLOR=#004276]Bart Stupak**](http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/BartStupak) have received death threats. [/COLOR]
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> [COLOR=#000000]Slaughter, a [**[COLOR=#004276]Democrat**](http://topics.politico.com/index.cfm/topic/Democrats) who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in upstate New York. [/COLOR]
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> Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll get you.”
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> “My wife still can’t answer the phone,” Stupak told POLITICO on Tuesday. The messages are “full of obscenities if she leaves it plugged in. In my office, we can’t get a phone out. It’s just bombarded.”
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[COLOR=#000000]These terrorists seem to have forgotten how Ruby Ridge and Waco turned out.  
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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/24 "2010-03-24T20:01:55Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> These terrorists seem to have forgotten how Ruby Ridge and Waco turned out.

Perhaps an ungentle reminder is in order?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/25 "2010-03-24T20:24:56Z")

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Any of the board’s conservatives want to chime in here and denounce these goings on?

\<crickets\>

Thought so. Congratulations, you are now complicit in these crimes.

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**Author:** ![pope\_hentai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@pope\_hentai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pope_hentai)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/26 "2010-03-24T20:39:24Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Any of the board’s conservatives want to chime in here and denounce these goings on?

vandalism is not the answer. there ya go.

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/27 "2010-03-24T21:47:29Z")

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Dude if I was a Republican I would be stabbing myself in the brain right now.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/28 "2010-03-24T23:22:40Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Any of the board’s conservatives want to chime in here and denounce these goings on?

Denouncing these goings on over a liberal-slanted message board is pretty pointless. Other than, say, **Lonesome Polecat** and **Crafter\_Man** , we’re pretty much devoid of right-wing crazies ('course, we’ve got lots of left wing crazies).

**Sam Stone** \* typing, “this is terrorism and those responsible should be ashamed” on the SDMB is hardly going to reach many crazy right wing ears. On the Freep or at a Tea Party, maybe.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/29 "2010-03-24T23:28:25Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I wonder what it takes to get the attention of the FBI.

Yeah, I’m sure those bastards at the FBI don’t give a shit about congressmen’s offices being vandalized. Fucking partisan bastards :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/30 "2010-03-24T23:38:02Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Any of the board’s conservatives want to chime in here and denounce these goings on?
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> \<crickets\>
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> Thought so. Congratulations, you are now complicit in these crimes.

Why would any of them be complicit? That’s just nutty.

For the record, I can’t imagine even the wing-nuttiest righties on this board condoning tactics like threatening to kill the children of Congresscritters. The fact that none has wandered into this read yet doesn’t mean squat.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/31 "2010-03-24T23:42:26Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> Yeah, I’m sure those bastards at the FBI don’t give a shit about congressmen’s offices being vandalized. Fucking partisan bastards :rolleyes:

I don’t think he’s suggesting that the FBI is ignoring this; he’s just saying, “well done, right wing nutbags, enjoy prison.” I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/32 "2010-03-25T00:03:00Z")

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That’s pretty much what I had in mind.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/33 "2010-03-25T00:48:35Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Why would any of them be complicit? That’s just nutty.
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> For the record, I can’t imagine even the wing-nuttiest righties on this board condoning tactics like threatening to kill the children of Congresscritters. The fact that none has wandered into this read yet doesn’t mean squat.

By their silence they are asserting their agreement (tho yes the original noun I used is probably too extreme). Of course it’s really the GOP leadership that needs to do this, not the rank and file (tho the fact that they’ve let these loons hijack their party should make the saner Repos feel very worried), but instead the likes of Boehner are just egging them on (we can only hope that the worst of the vandalism involves egging).

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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/34 "2010-03-25T01:01:49Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Seriously, can we PLEASE just give Texas back to Mexico? Please?

They want the land, they _ **don’t** _ want the stupid.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/35 "2010-03-25T02:51:58Z")

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[Well fuck me runnin’, look at what some classy little number just faxed over to Bart Stupak’s office.](http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2010/03/threatening-fax-sent-to-rep-bart-stupak-march-24-2010.php?page=1) I hold no brief for Stupak, I hated his grandstanding bullshit maneuver about abortion and his abject betrayal of the platform of his party, but NOBODY deserves this kind of shit for his political actions. This is foulness, evil, disgusting slime and quite frankly at the moment I’m taking a rather macabre interest in seeing just how far this moral freefall will continue–I think I know how low they can go but I fear they’re gonna exceed even my most cynical expectations.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/36 "2010-03-25T03:26:42Z")

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Written by Kevin “Coach” Collins? What the hell does he coach?

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/37 "2010-03-25T03:29:43Z")

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Also, I truly don’t understand the beef the pro-life people have with this bill. Didn’t include language that says no federal funds will go toward abortions? Didn’t Obama just sign an executive order underscoring that? What exactly did they want…an amendment saying that all abortions are now illegal? It seems like they got a pretty good deal.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/38 "2010-03-25T03:44:10Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> Written by Kevin “Coach” Collins? What the hell does he coach?

Lamaze?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/39 "2010-03-25T03:51:24Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> Also, I truly don’t understand the beef the pro-life people have with this bill. Didn’t include language that says no federal funds will go toward abortions? Didn’t Obama just sign an executive order underscoring that? What exactly did they want…an amendment saying that all abortions are now illegal? It seems like they got a pretty good deal.

You are making the mistake of thinking that these people are driven by a genuine disagreement with what is actually in the bill, and not the FUD shat out by right-wing dissemblers.

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**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-terrorists-take-aim-at-health-care-reform/533568/40 "2010-03-25T07:45:28Z")

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> [@C3](#):
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> Written by Kevin “Coach” Collins? What the hell does he coach?

My guess is high school football.

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