# Domestic violence is both funny and sexy !!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 15, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464 "2009-01-15T18:16:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/21 "2009-01-15T19:23:40Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> My particular pet peeve is the negative portrayal of men in the mass media. Specifically, but not limited to, the portrayal of domestic violence as only being perpetrated by men. Inversely correlated is the downplaying, even making light of, domestic violence perpetrated by women.

What did Jeffrey Dahmer say to Lorena Bobbit?  
You gonna eat that?  
Who’s the bad guy in this joke?

Do you think I’me a “cut off the penis” or cannibalism advocate? I’m not, but when I heard this for the first time I laughed!

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/22 "2009-01-15T19:25:30Z")

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Ah. So, when you jump into a humor thread to post a serious comment on the subject, you’re just posting deliberately confrontational opinions in an attempt to provode an off-topic, emotional response.

Not trolling at all. Got it.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/23 "2009-01-15T19:27:27Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> If you think domestic violence is _bad_, oh… except in really funny cases, then you \*don’t \*really think domestic violence is bad.

Seeing the humor of some aspects of this story does not mean that you feel that this case isn’t bad or wrong. You can still see this as part of a black comedy and also feel that it is wrong. It is not at all like your death penalty example. See just about every headline on FARK. Or the Darwin awards. If you don’t look to closely it can be funny. If you look deep and see the hurt that felt be the families not so much. I have no trouble finding humor in dark places.

And I happen to agree somewhat with you about the male/female disconnect with regards to DV. I forget which movie it was that showed the star setting her boyfriends expensive car on fire because she cheated on him. The scene was meant to cause applause with the audience. I just thought, “Felony Criminal Mischief under Domestic Violence.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/24 "2009-01-15T19:29:08Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Wow. I can’t even come up with a scathing enough reply for that.

Of course you can’t: you’re an idiot. That’s the same reason you can’t come up with a way to understand how Obama can have opinions on the economy and the DTV transition at the same time, or why we can allow gays to marry without letting men fuck children and dogs.

You’re trying to play gotcha here, and maybe start a one-trick pony campaign, but it sounds like you’re actually not smart enough to have a sense of humor. Domestic violence isn’t funny. The daughter of the owner of a trainwreck failure of a football team having her hair set on fire by her girlfriend, who is herself the daughter of the former CEO of Yahoo, is simply absurd.

By the way, your “cause celebre” is bullshit. Get over yourself, you sound like those Christian fundamentalists who say they’re being oppressed if someone wishes them a happy holiday instead of merry Christmas. Of course, the irony is that humorlessness is very funny. But it’s probably not funny to you…

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/25 "2009-01-15T19:29:41Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> I’m not the only one here with a particular cause celebre, political viewpoint, or “agenda” which we take the opportunity to promote even in threads not dedicated to that particular topic. People frequently interject their particular pet peeve – politics, religion, taxation, whatever – in their posts.

Yeah, and they’re usually being douchebags when they do. Congratulations on being douchey in the same way as a bunch of other people often are! Your prize: a very lame Pit thread in which you look like a silly prig.

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> My particular pet peeve is the negative portrayal of men in the mass media. Specifically, but not limited to, the portrayal of domestic violence as only being perpetrated by men. Inversely correlated is the downplaying, even making light of, domestic violence perpetrated by women.

A correlation you have extracted, with great and painstaking care, from your transverse colon.

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> I feel the same way about domestic violence. If you think domestic violence is _bad_, oh… except in really funny cases, then you \*don’t \*really think domestic violence is bad.

OK. Now demonstrate where I, Omniscient, or Marley indicated that we thought that the domestic violence in this case wasn’t bad because it was funny. I can’t believe I have to say this aloud, but all domestic violence, including the funny cases, is _bad_. I oppose domestic violence. In 1993, [this woman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt)engaged in a particularly notorious act of domestic violence. I formally and without reservation condemn her act, which was vicious and unacceptable in any civilized society. I also made and laughed at jokes about it; did you? Later, the same woman was accused of punching her mother in the face while watching television, which again, I condemn as unacceptable and wrong. I also laughed when I read about it, because it is mordantly funny.

In June of 1994, a very famous former athlete and movie star most likely crept onto the property of his ex-wife. He then (most likely) stabbed her in the throat so many times and so deeply that she was nearly decapitated. He also stabbed to death a waiter of her acquaintance, who happened to be on the scene. This famous athlete was acquitted of the murder, but has subsequently been imprisoned. The two children he had with the murdered woman, who are now 23 and 20, were left motherless and now are essentially orphans, who have to live with the knowledge that their father took their mother from them. The families of the two murdered people have very nearly given up their sanity in a fruitless quest for real justice, and had to watch the likely murderer give a series of interviews in which he all but taunted them with the corpses of their dead loved ones.

This is a categorically awful series of events, one with devestating consequences for all those involved. Yet, oddly enough, [some folks find humor in this series of events](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10696256&postcount=126). What, murder is bad, unless it’s really funny murder?

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> Google “Hiram Monserrate” and read about how he’s accused of slashing his girlfriend with a broken glass. She went to the hospital, initially indicated she wanted to press charges, but has since changed her tune. Oh yeah, Hiram Monserrate just got seated in the NY State Senate.
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> \*I bet he’s going to slash taxes too!! Hah - hah!! \*  
> Was that funny?

Nope. Puns are stupid.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/26 "2009-01-15T19:39:40Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> Nope. Puns are stupid.

Whoa, you are going to get SO burned for that one around here.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/27 "2009-01-15T19:42:12Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Whoa, you are going to get SO burned for that one around here.

“Burned”? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/28 "2009-01-15T19:44:17Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The daughter of the owner of a trainwreck failure of a football team having her hair set on fire by her girlfriend, who is herself the daughter of the former CEO of Yahoo, is simply absurd.

And yet if a man had set a woman’s hair on fire it’d be in the Pit as RO.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/29 "2009-01-15T19:46:40Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Google “Hiram Monserrate” and read about how he’s accused of slashing his girlfriend with a broken glass. She went to the hospital, initially indicated she wanted to press charges, but has since changed her tune. Oh yeah, Hiram Monserrate just got seated in the NY State Senate.
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> \*I bet he’s going to slash taxes too!! Hah - hah!! \*  
> Was that funny?

Not the way you tell it. But I bet Richard Pryor could have made it hilarious.

You have to work on your delivery.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/30 "2009-01-15T19:48:41Z")

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> [@Ensign\_Edison](#):
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> And yet if a man had set a woman’s hair on fire it’d be in the Pit as RO.

What if it was Michael Jackson setting Britney Spears’ hair on fire?

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/31 "2009-01-15T19:49:09Z")

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> [@Ensign\_Edison](#):
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> And yet if a man had set a woman’s hair on fire it’d be in the Pit as RO.

Are these things mutually exclusive? Do you, like our OP, subscribe to the notion that it is impossible to simultaneously condemn an act and find some aspect of the comission of that act funny?

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/32 "2009-01-15T19:49:57Z")

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Thank you all for an enlightening exchange.

And, believe it or not, I actually mean that.

G’day.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/33 "2009-01-15T19:51:59Z")

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> [@Ensign\_Edison](#):
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> And yet if a man had set a woman’s hair on fire it’d be in the Pit as RO.

I have to take what other people are pitting into consideration before I laugh?

> [@Colibri](#):
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> What if it was Michael Jackson setting Britney Spears’ hair on fire?

Not funny. But if R. Kelly pissed on Britney’s head to put the fire out, _that_’s funny.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/34 "2009-01-15T19:52:03Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> In June of 1994, a very famous former athlete and movie star most likely crept onto the property of his ex-wife. He then (most likely) stabbed her in the throat so many times and so deeply that she was nearly decapitated. He also stabbed to death a waiter of her acquaintance, who happened to be on the scene. This famous athlete was acquitted of the murder, but has subsequently been imprisoned. The two children he had with the murdered woman, who are now 23 and 20, were left motherless and now are essentially orphans, who have to live with the knowledge that their father took their mother from them. The families of the two murdered people have very nearly given up their sanity in a fruitless quest for real justice, and had to watch the likely murderer give a series of interviews in which he all but taunted them with the corpses of their dead loved ones.

OK I give up. Who was it?

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/35 "2009-01-15T19:55:12Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Not funny. But if R. Kelly pissed on Britney’s head to put the fire out, _that_’s funny.

That _would_ be funny.

Too bad Britney’s too old for him.

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/36 "2009-01-15T19:55:24Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> What if it was Michael Jackson setting Britney Spears’ hair on fire?

Not nearly as funny as Michael Jackson setting Diana Ross’s hair on fire.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/37 "2009-01-15T19:57:21Z")

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> [@Cuckoorex](#):
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> Not nearly as funny as Michael Jackson setting Diana Ross’s hair on fire.

You win.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/38 "2009-01-15T20:00:19Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> \*I bet he’s going to slash taxes too!! Hah - hah!! \*  
> Was that funny?

Maybe without the Hah-hah.

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/39 "2009-01-15T20:21:09Z")

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It may sound funny but the next time someone bakes an apple pie, try sticking your “finger” into it ala _American Pie_. You will get to understand the definitions of 1st and 2nd degree burns.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/domestic-violence-is-both-funny-and-sexy/481464/40 "2009-01-15T20:31:39Z")

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It’s okay to think that something is horrible and funny at the same time.

I laughed at a guy with only 1 arm, whose shirt was buttoned incorrectly. I couldn’t help it!

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