# Dominatrix loses a second boyfriend **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 13, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218 "2011-09-13T23:18:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/1 "2011-09-13T23:18:37Z")
[“To lose one parent may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.” Oscar Wilde](http://bit.ly/qRvEWI) ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/2 "2011-09-13T23:30:57Z")
I thought we had a doper named Dominatrix and she was having a run of rather spectacular bad luck. This is something else altogether. Maybe she needs to meet up with that weathermen guy who woke up with a dead man in his bath/jacuzzi tub. ---
**Author:** ![palacheck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@palacheck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palacheck)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/3 "2011-09-14T00:02:22Z")
When I read the thread title I figured she was suspected of “accidentally” killing a couple of her clients. The reality is simultaneously less and _more_ spectacular. Actually, a dominatrix that “accidentally” kills a few clients to increase the hourly rates men are willing to pay would make a good short story… ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/4 "2011-09-14T02:02:09Z")
I hate it when that happens! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/5 "2011-09-14T12:13:11Z")
From the link - > [@](#): > > Upper Darby Police Superintendent Michael Chitwood confirmed that Stelzenmuller was wearing a “rubber swimming suit” when he was found dead in the attic of his home. While no foul play is immediately suspected, Chitwood said he believes there is “more to it” than Stelzenmuller just trying on scuba equipment. Gee, do ya think? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/6 "2011-09-14T14:06:47Z")
Well, now that she’s gotten all of the ‘kinks’ out of her technique maybe I should give her a call. What could go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/7 "2011-09-14T17:01:39Z")
He thought that the SCUBA tank would mean he wouldn’t have to worry about asphyxiation. That’s why they didn’t have a “red word.” ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/8 "2011-09-14T17:24:02Z")
I don’t get it. Was there any evidence that she was even there when the second guy died? The first guy was obviously not her fault. What is the story here? Are we just pointing and laughing because she and her clients are “weird” or something? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/9 "2011-09-14T17:26:12Z")
I’m not laughing. I’m marveling at the weirdness of other people’s lives. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/10 "2011-09-14T17:27:39Z")
Well, and that it’s unusual to have two boyfriends die. I keep thinking things like “under the couch? In the dryer?” every time I see the thread title. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/11 "2011-09-14T19:21:46Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I don’t get it. Was there any evidence that she was even there when the second guy died? The first guy was obviously not her fault. What is the story here? Are we just pointing and laughing because she and her clients are “weird” or something? I find it morbidly funny that the guy’s obituary claimed he was “testing scuba equipment” - which has got to be the Rubber Fetish version of “hiking the Appalachian Trail”. But that’s laughing at the euphemisms of polite society, not laughing at Steve Zissou there. ---
**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/12 "2011-09-14T20:03:47Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Well, and that it’s unusual to have two boyfriends die. > > I keep thinking things like “under the couch? In the dryer?” every time I see the thread title. I remember when [this made the headlines.](http://www.thefreelibrary.com/CHEEKY+GABI+LOST+MP+LEMBIT'S+BABY.-a0181592094) I was sure the headline the next day would read “It’s ok. It was down the back of the sofa!” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/13 "2011-09-14T21:11:46Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > What is the story here? It’s about scuba safety. There’s a lesson here for all of us. You think Jade Vixen is her professional name? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![BobArrgh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobarrgh/32/2881_2.png) [@BobArrgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobArrgh)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/14 "2011-09-15T03:14:21Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > It’s about scuba safety. There’s a lesson here for all of us. Don’t swim in your attic??? ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/15 "2011-09-15T04:05:40Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > I don’t get it. Was there any evidence that she was even there when the second guy died? The first guy was obviously not her fault. What is the story here? Are we just pointing and laughing because she and her clients are “weird” or something? That was my take on it, yeah. Poor kid. If she was involved in the scuba thing, then she was probably at least negligent, but there doesn’t seem to be any indication that was the case. Accidental kink related deaths usually make the news, but even so, if she was a dental hygienist she probably wouldn’t have been brought up in relation to it. Well, maybe if the paper had already had that picture of her in the rubber corset. – > [@palacheck](#): > > Actually, a dominatrix that “accidentally” kills a few clients to increase the hourly rates men are willing to pay would make a good short story… I’m not sure I get the business model. That wouldn’t make her sound badass, it would make her sound inept. That would be like a surgeon deliberately killing his patents, then raising his prices, and counting on the free advertising to cover the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/16 "2011-09-15T04:13:40Z")
I have a boring life. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/17 "2011-09-15T06:48:50Z")
You have to wonder why men keep going out with this woman when she’s been involved in situations like this. [Oh.](http://hitsusa.com/images/jade-vixen.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/eada6e/32.png) [@\_Undecided\_Adrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Undecided_Adrian)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/18 "2011-09-15T07:58:36Z")
There’s a [nice poem](http://digitalcuttlefish.blogspot.com/2010/11/gary-aldridge-back-story.html) about a similar incident with a friend of Jerry Falwell. ---
**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/19 "2011-09-15T08:24:46Z")
Maybe he was in the attic playing I-wanna-be-Reverend-Gary-Aldridge. Certainly, if he was found hogtied, wearing a dive hood and face mask, rubber underwear, two complete wet suits, diving gloves and booties, then I think the mystery’s solved. Except for what Edythe Maa had to do with it. Was she found with the snorkel? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218/20 "2011-09-15T09:37:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You have to wonder why men keep going out with this woman when she’s been involved in situations like this. > > [Oh.](http://hitsusa.com/images/jade-vixen.jpg) Link takes to their main page, not the pic. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dominatrix-loses-a-second-boyfriend/596218.md?page=2)