# Don Cheadle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 24, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835 "2009-01-24T21:59:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/1 "2009-01-24T21:59:10Z")

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From Hotel Rwanda to Hotel for Dogs…

Dude

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/2 "2009-01-24T22:00:07Z")

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Wait, what?

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/3 "2009-01-24T22:53:11Z")

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Next stop, Iron Man 2.

Are we just listing his filmography or what?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/4 "2009-01-24T22:56:22Z")

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Traitor was awesome.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/5 "2009-01-24T23:07:37Z")

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He totally rocked in _Ticker_, one of the short films in _The Hire_.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/6 "2009-01-24T23:27:01Z")

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I don’t begrudge any actor for cashing in like Cheadle is hoping to with Hotel for Dogs. I mean, think about it. This stupid dog movie will probably be seen by hundreds of thousands of more people that Hotel Rwanda. And most actors, even celebrated award winners, have a limited shelf life. I say, get it while you can. And keep making great movies as well as the occasional dog\*.

\*did you see what I did there?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/7 "2009-01-24T23:31:08Z")

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Well also famous actors often owe somebody a favor somewhere, and that favor sometimes gets called in five years later when you’re already famous.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/8 "2009-01-24T23:37:58Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Well also famous actors often owe somebody a favor somewhere, and that favor sometimes gets called in five years later when you’re already famous.

Reminds me of one of my favorite lines in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon referring to Dogma as the “owing a favor” movie.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/9 "2009-01-24T23:42:54Z")

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There’s always room for a Kevin Smith quote:

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> Matt Damon: Hey, shove it, “Bounce” boy. Let’s remember who talked who into doing this shit in the first place. I mean, talking me into “Dogma” is one thing, but this is..  
> Ben Affleck: Look, I’m sorry I dragged you away from whatever gay serial killers who ride horses and like to play golf touchy-feely picture you’re going to do this week.  
> Matt Damon: I take it you haven’t seen “Forces of Nature”.  
> Ben Affleck: You’re like a child. What do I keep telling you? You gotta do the safe picture, then you do the art picture. Then sometimes, you’ve gotta do the payback picture 'cause your friend says you owe him. (both look directly into the camera, then turn back) Then sometimes, you’ve gotta go back to the well.  
> Matt Damon: Yeah, and sometimes you do “Reindeer Games”.

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**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/10 "2009-01-25T01:18:21Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> Reminds me of one of my favorite lines in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon referring to Dogma as the “owing a favor” movie.

I’m pretty that was intended to be self referential. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back being the “owing a favor” movie.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/11 "2009-01-25T01:19:51Z")

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> [@parthenokinesis](#):
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> I’m pretty that was intended to be self referential. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back being the “owing a favor” movie.

Definitely since Dogma was actually good unlike Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/12 "2009-01-25T01:25:02Z")

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He was so appalling in _Ocean’s Eleven_ - IMO the weakest link in an otherwise brilliantly entertaining movie, though that’s probably because I’m English and his accent sucked so badly - that when I saw _Hotel Rwanda_ I didn’t even realise it was the same actor until about half the way in, and had to confirm that it was indeed him when the credits rolled. Which further confirms my hypothesis that it was his accent that put me off, because he was superb in the latter movie.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/13 "2009-01-25T01:45:57Z")

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He’s one of the greatest actors of his “generation,” whatever that means. Let the dude have a paycheck, as long as he doesn’t altogether quit doing great work. \*Traitor \*is awesome (cept for the lame ending).

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/14 "2009-01-25T01:53:18Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> He’s one of the greatest actors of his “generation,” whatever that means. Let the dude have a paycheck, as long as he doesn’t altogether quit doing great work. \*Traitor \*is awesome (cept for the lame ending).

I don’t see what was so lame about the ending.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/15 "2009-01-25T03:20:07Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I don’t see what was so lame about the ending.

The bus surprise? Tigga please.

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**Author:** ![flood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@flood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flood)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/16 "2009-01-25T07:22:40Z")

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I thought he pwn3d in _Traffic_.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/17 "2009-01-25T08:19:16Z")

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I think he’s really bland. He’s never stunk up a screen, but he’s never lit one up, either. And just being in that piece of shit _Crash_ is enough to bring his stock down for me.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/18 "2009-01-25T14:23:30Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cMzyI6cIbek/hqdefault.jpg "Cheadle Planned Darfur Genocide To Create Role") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMzyI6cIbek)

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/19 "2009-01-25T14:45:53Z")

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Cheadle was excellent in _Rosewood_ as well. I recommend everybody watch that movie, though it’s not for kids. [tangent] My DVD of it is the only DVD I own that requires you to flip the disc over half-way through the movie :mad:😕[/tangent]

> **[Rosewood (1997) ⭐ 7.2 | Action, Drama, History](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120036/)**
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> 2h 20m | R

But yeah, if only you could rely on an actor’s participation to know it was a good movie. I haven’t seen many bad movies with Samuel L. Jackson or Morgan Freeman…oh wait, “Shaft” and “Bruce Almighty.” Ah well.

It seems that half of the stuff with Robin Williams is fantastic and half sucks. So  
in defense of actors, my WAG is that sometimes they are just a cog. Who directs, how it’s edited, what other members of the ensemble dropped out in mid-production, etc. could play a big part of how the film turns out.

But yeah, favors sometimes must rule in Hollywood.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cheadle/482835/20 "2009-01-25T14:50:13Z")

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> [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](#):
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> From Hotel Rwanda to Hotel for Dogs…

“I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific.”

- Michael Caine, on “Jaws: The Revenge”

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