# Don Cherry (Hockey)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 10, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249 "2019-11-10T19:30:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/21 "2019-11-11T18:24:16Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> He is a icon, he did not say the N word that would warrant his removal.

“Remember guys, you can say anything you want on the air, disparage the patriotism of non-white Canadians, call them ‘You people’, and suggest that immigrants aren’t really Canadians. Just don’t use the n-word and you’re good.”

Yeah, I don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/22 "2019-11-11T18:30:10Z")

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The National Hockey League has issued a statement that Cherry’s remarks were “offensive and contrary to the values we believe in.”

Sportsnet, which broadcasts Hockey Night in Canada, has issued an apology and called his comments “offensive “.

Ron Maclean has apologised, saying he should have responded immediately to Cherry’s comments.

Cherry? \<crickets, crickets\>

He’s done.  
“Sportsnet apologises for Cherry’s anti-immigrant comments”: [Sportsnet apologizes for Don Cherry's anti-immigrant comments | CTV News](https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/sports/sportsnet-apologizes-for-don-cherry-s-anti-immigrant-comments-1.4678516)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/23 "2019-11-11T18:41:52Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> Grapes gonna Grapes, but sorry you either like his no nonsense style or you don’t. He is a classic canadian icon, and says a shit load of things that people are thinking and he brings in money, or the networks would have turfed him along time ago. Even if he gets fired for this, its not the worst way to go.

Chracterizing him as “no nonsense” is just not an honest assessment of the facts. Cherry is, in fact, quite full of nonsense, and what he’s in hot water for is entirely nonsense. His implications that immigrants do not wear poppies, and that native-born Canadians usually do, are both total nonsense.

Perhaps my personal standards of honesty are unusually high, but I think that for a person to be classified as “No nonsense,” they should not speak nonsense, but in fact Cherry does, quite regularly. Being a loudmouthed asshole is not “no nonsense.” What he said was a lie. There is no other way to say it. It was bullshit.

So that’s my take on that. As to the issue of wearing poppies, that’s stupid bullshit too. MOST PEOPLE DON’T. If you don’t believe me, go to a public place and do an honest count. And who cares? I usually do, but if the reason someone ends up wearing one is shame and/or confirmity then what the hell does it really mean?

Bu fine, I’ll wear mine, but I am openly contemptuous of bullshit-spewing chickenhawks like Don Cherry who drape themselves in the flag and the glory of braver men and women than he, babbling about the sacrifices of veterans in an effort to prove how much better and more patriotic he is than “pinkos.” Remind me again what branch of the service Don Cherry was in? Oh that’s right, he served with the Barrie Flyers during Korea. How noble.

Not everyone has to serve, and people who do serve are not better than those who don’t (I served.) But there’s nothing grosser than someone like Cherry who attaches himself like a lamprey to the honour or serving so they get reflected glory. If you want to honor veterans do it quietly, for when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others.

Grosser still is using this holier-than-thou horseshit to divide Canadians into good ones and bad ones. That’s the kind of hateful and divisive horseshit our veterans fought against.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/24 "2019-11-11T18:56:46Z")

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It’s posts like that that make me think the SDMB needs a “like” button. 🙂

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/25 "2019-11-11T19:29:54Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> How often do opportunities to “say the n word” come up in hockey?😕

N(one).

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/26 "2019-11-11T20:12:20Z")

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And he was fired.

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/27 "2019-11-11T20:21:48Z")

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> **[Don Cherry fired by Sportsnet over 'you people' rant on Coach’s Corner](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/don-cherry-fired?r)**
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> Cherry, 85, had singled out new immigrants for not wearing poppies to honour Canada’s veterans and dead soldiers

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/28 "2019-11-11T20:48:44Z")

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And in the “Just doesn’t get it” category, Cherry is apparently hurt that they would do this to him on Remembrance Day!

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/29 "2019-11-11T20:51:02Z")

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The only way this could have ended up…

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/30 "2019-11-11T20:58:24Z")

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I’m surprised. He’s said worse over the decades.

Leaffan - The poppy-wearing immigrant.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/31 "2019-11-11T21:18:22Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> How often do opportunities to “say the n word” come up in hockey?😕

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Subbans, Givani Smith, Wayne Simmonds, Devante Smith-Pelly among others have had it aimed at them _at least_ once on the ice.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/32 "2019-11-11T21:21:35Z")

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I think firing is too much. He’s said worse. But I’m not surprised. The guy is out of touch. When he travels from place to place for the games, he refuses to leave his hotel room. I’ve never served, but I’ve worked for the military as a civilian, and I’ve cared for thousands of soldiers. They are a very diverse group. And they have been for a long time.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/33 "2019-11-11T21:33:33Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’m surprised. He’s said worse over the decades.
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> Leaffan - The poppy-wearing immigrant.

He’s said worse over the years, yes (remember his remarks about “French guys” which instituted a five-second delay for a while?). But his remarks have added up, and this may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/34 "2019-11-11T22:25:07Z")

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His comments were idiotic but I hate to see the old coot go. He and Ron Maclean were a real fixture on Hockey Night in Canada. The Coach’s Corner segment with Cherry and Maclean dates back to 1986, and the show itself is a Canadian tradition going back to 1952 and Guinness World Record holder as the longest-running TV sports program anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/35 "2019-11-11T22:36:30Z")

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It is about time.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/36 "2019-11-11T22:42:30Z")

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Any guesses on who will replace him?

Kelly Hrudey?  
Cassie Campbell?  
Brian Burke?  
Hayley Wickenheiser?

Burkie must be foaming at the mouth.

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/37 "2019-11-11T22:42:32Z")

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He’s an overpaid coot whose shtick is constant indignation, anger, and sharp assholery.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/38 "2019-11-11T23:10:38Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> He’s an overpaid coot whose shtick is constant indignation, anger, and sharp assholery.

Exactly. If that is “tradition” deliver me from tradition.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/39 "2019-11-12T00:12:20Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Any guesses on who will replace him?

It needs to be someone with knowledge of the Toronto market, who is popular with Leaf fans, and has a deep understanding of hockey.

I nominate Mats Sundin. 😃

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-cherry-hockey/843249/40 "2019-11-12T01:42:39Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> Exactly. If that is “tradition” deliver me from tradition.

Sometimes tradition is valuable enough to override concerns about offense by contributors from previous generations.

This is not one of those times.

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