# Don Rumsfeld---\>Go FUCK yourself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 24, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524 "2004-12-24T21:39:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2004, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/61 "2004-12-26T21:09:54Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > ~sighs~ > Do you honestly not understand why ‘liberal elitism’ is an attempt to make a group fungible in order to demonize them? > Or are you just being difficult? Do you REALLY have to ask that question? ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2004, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/62 "2004-12-26T21:31:50Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Do you REALLY have to ask that question? Is answering questions with questions the new hotness? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/63 "2004-12-27T12:42:21Z")
If it is, I’ll be the second-to-last to know. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/64 "2004-12-27T15:24:58Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Point taken, however… > While **race** _ism_ may not be the correct term, surely there has to be some term, perhaps a new one, to denote the attempt to make a ‘group’ fungible in order to demonize them? I’ve always called it bigotry, and that’s why I believe that usage of the pejorative “fundie” is bigoted. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/65 "2004-12-27T15:26:18Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I’ve always called it bigotry, and that’s why I believe that usage of the pejorative “fundie” is bigoted. That is a whole other hijack 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/66 "2004-12-27T16:33:06Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > That is a whole other hijack 😃 I believe I’m finally coming to understand what is meant by “hijack” — it is any aspect of a discussion that is inconvenient to our prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/67 "2004-12-27T16:35:24Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I believe I’m finally coming to understand what is meant by “hijack” — it is any aspect of a discussion that is inconvenient to our prejudice. ~baffled~ I don’t see that, at all. In this case, I was pointing out that a discussion on the connotation of the term ‘fundie’ would be outside the scope of Don Rumsfeld fucking himself. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/68 "2004-12-27T16:37:20Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > In this case, I was pointing out that a discussion on the connotation of the term ‘fundie’ would be outside the scope of Don Rumsfeld fucking himself. Well, unless it were part of the anointing ritual. I mean, he’s got the Crisco right there… ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/69 "2004-12-27T16:38:41Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I mean, he’s got the Crisco right there… I **was** wondering how he managed to get his head quite so far up his ass. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524/70 "2004-12-27T21:46:43Z")
[Batshit crazy](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/finnagain/Rummy_batshit_nuts.jpg) [“And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, **shot down the plane over Pennsylvania** and attacked the Pentagon,”](http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0412/24/nfcnn.01.html) Now, I’ve heard tinfoil hattery of our government quietly shooting down the plane in order to claim that American Heroes had disabled it… but claiming that terrorists somehow shot the plane down? Is it just me, or is that through the looking glass level weirdness? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-rumsfeld-go-fuck-yourself/281524.md?page=3)