# Don’t waste that perfectly good fetus! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060 "2019-02-06T13:46:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Baka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@Baka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baka)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/101 "2019-02-07T07:45:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Why don’t you just eat the mother after [she dies in agony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar)? An adult woman has more meat, and it gives you more of a chance to gloat over the suffering and death of your victim. I would never wish that death on anyone and certainly would have been in favor for granting the abortion. You assume my stance on abortion is hard line pro life and you are incorrect. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Aaarrrggghhh. This is getting sickening. OP, go somewhere else, please. Sure. I’ll go back into the shadows and enjoy your conversations as a passive observer as I have done for years. Well, mostly I skip over your posts, Beck. > [@raventhief](#): > > Sure, OP, knock yourself out. I think this is the right answer! > [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > The only thing that would make this poster a more obvious troll would be - nope, can’t think of anything. It was less intentional than it came off. I am sorry for all the fuss I’ve caused. > [@septimus](#): > > Instead of wasting expensive pharmaceuticals to kill murderers, why not just roast the criminal on a spit? Let the victims’ relatives or other concerned citizens feast on the remains. It could be a profit-making venture for the state; don’t you think some people would pay $1000+ for Murderer Steak? For Rapist Stew? I think the state is remiss in its fiduciary duty to taxpayers _not_ to seize this opportunity. > > Some parts of the corpse would be too precious to eat. Any Ebay’ers here? What’s the going rate for Murderer’s Testicles, in fair condition? > > For that matter, why limit feasts to criminals? Having trouble coming up with the funds to bury or cremate Grandma? She’d appreciate knowing her decease was a financial boon rather than burden. Selling someone for meat crosses a line for me. Theoretically I’d not be opposed to giving people the chance to dine on the executed so long as the cost to do so was substantial ($1,0000 is way too little) and the money went to the victims Family. And yes, fetuses are human! But killing a human and killing a fetus don’t have similar emotional connotations. I await you second round of scorn. ---
**Author:** ![Baka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@Baka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baka)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/102 "2019-02-07T10:19:06Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > **Baka** , as a person who holds a pro-life stance, can I sincerely ask you to fuck off and go back under whatever idiotic rock you crawled out from under? You’re not only making yourself look like a complete and utter idiot, but you’re also making anyone holding a pro-life view look dumber. So please stop. Does having a pro life stance mean I need to force my values onto other people? If so then I am not representing your pro life movement. I do sincerely appreciate the position you’ve awarded to me represent “anyone holding a pro-life view”. I was unaware I was speaking for anyone other than myself and never claimed to be. Thanks too for your profanity and hate:) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/103 "2019-02-07T11:28:30Z")
> [@Baka](#): > > … > I await you second round of scorn. OK. The people who you’re mocking here, the people who abort fetuses big enough for a meal (that is, 20 weeks plus) likely just went through a heart-rending decision because the woman was diagnosed with cancer, the father died and she can no longer support herself, or the fetus was found to have severe abnormalities and wouldn’t survive anyway. So, congratulations on mocking people in those situations, you disgusting excuse for a human being. Is it your idiotic view that pro-choice people don’t consider fetuses to be human flesh? I mean, that’s what’s implied in your disgusting and idiotic thread. So, if you want to be a cannibal, don’t let me stop you, shit-for-brains. If you’re going to hang around funeral homes to try and grab a bite, I would stick to Jewish and Islamic ones, since they don’t use embalming fluid. Although, I can’t imagine that fluid having a negative effect on your intelligence. Everyone else – we should be thankful. This is a troll thread where it makes sense to post recipes. **Baka** , welcome to the Straight Dope. I hope your time here is short. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/104 "2019-02-07T11:40:15Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Everyone else – we should be thankful. This is a troll thread where it makes sense to post recipes. The Baka Sandwich 1 fresh turd 2 slices of moldy bread Take a nice fresh shit. Place this shit between two slices of moldy bread. Feed to any given shitty troll. ---
**Author:** ![Baka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@Baka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baka)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/105 "2019-02-07T11:42:25Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > OK. > > The people who you’re mocking here, the people who abort fetuses big enough for a meal (that is, 20 weeks plus) likely just went through a heart-rending decision because the woman was diagnosed with cancer, the father died and she can no longer support herself, or the fetus was found to have severe abnormalities and wouldn’t survive anyway. So, congratulations on mocking people in those situations, you disgusting excuse for a human being. > > Is it your idiotic view that pro-choice people don’t consider fetuses to be human flesh? I mean, that’s what’s implied in your disgusting and idiotic thread. So, if you want to be a cannibal, don’t let me stop you, shit-for-brains. If you’re going to hang around funeral homes to try and grab a bite, I would stick to Jewish and Islamic ones, since they don’t use embalming fluid. Although, I can’t imagine that fluid having a negative effect on your intelligence. > > Everyone else – we should be thankful. This is a troll thread where it makes sense to post recipes. > > **Baka** , welcome to the Straight Dope. I hope your time here is short. Those are great points. I never meant to mock people in desperate situations. I meant to challenge some pro choice folks who think a fetus isn’t a baby/human. For those folks I’d expect my proposition to eat the aborted fetus to not be morally reprehensible action. That’s all really. I believe a fetus is a baby and a human and I believe a baby has value. I also believe that people should have autonomy in their choices so I would not push my choice for life onto someone else who chooses an abortion I’m sorry for the anger and hurt I’ve caused. It truly wasn’t a well thought out post. I’m appreciative of this points you made Ritter. Thanks for the education. I’ll do everyone a favor and go back to being a passive observer. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/106 "2019-02-07T12:37:03Z")
> [@Baka](#): > > Thanks too for your profanity and hate:) No need to thank me. You worked hard and earned every bit of it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/107 "2019-02-07T13:13:09Z")
> [@Baka](#): > > Those are great points. > > I never meant to mock people in desperate situations. I meant to challenge some pro choice folks who think a fetus isn’t a baby/human. > > For those folks I’d expect my proposition to eat the aborted fetus to not be morally reprehensible action. That’s all really. > > I believe a fetus is a baby and a human and I believe a baby has value. I also believe that people should have autonomy in their choices so I would not push my choice for life onto someone else who chooses an abortion > > I’m sorry for the anger and hurt I’ve caused. It truly wasn’t a well thought out post. I’m appreciative of this points you made Ritter. Thanks for the education. > > I’ll do everyone a favor and go back to being a passive observer. Look, you’re starting to sound like a reasonable person so why don’t you ask a mod to close this thread. Just report your own post and ask to close it. Then, if you really want a discussion or a debate on abortion (any kind or late term or whatever), open up a new, more reasonable and well thought out thread in GD, MPSIMS, or IMHO, depending on the kind of discussion you’re looking for. Maybe you’ll learn something about the reality of late-term abortions and do your sig line some service. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/108 "2019-02-07T15:06:47Z")
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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/109 "2019-02-07T15:24:44Z")
> [@Baka](#): > > I believe a fetus is a baby and a human and I believe a baby has value. And yet many (if not most) conservatives are willing to make allowances for rape, incest, and life of the mother, [including the current president.](https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-platform-abortion/index.html) > [@](#): > > “The Republican platform every four years has a provision that states that the right of the unborn child should not be infringed,” Guthrie said. “And it makes no exceptions for rape, for incest, for the life of the mother. Would you want to change the Republican platform to include the (abortion) exceptions that you have?” > > “Yes, I would. Yes, I would. Absolutely,” Trump said. “For the three exceptions, I would.” I’d wager that even conservatives who don’t want to make allowances for those exceptions at least struggle with that position from a moral standpoint, as making someone carry the child of her rapist is a tough pill to swallow. Based on that, it seems to me that most people in this country are OK with ending a human fetal life in at least some circumstances. The rest is left up to details of when and why. If you’re willing to paint liberals as unfeeling murderous monsters for having a pro-choice stance, then it only seems consistent to apply that same view to conservatives who are willing to “murder” fetal humans in the case of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother. Including Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/110 "2019-02-07T15:31:51Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > And yet many (if not most) conservatives are willing to make allowances for rape, incest, and life of the mother, [including the current president.](https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-platform-abortion/index.html) > > I’d wager that even conservatives who don’t want to make allowances for those exceptions at least struggle with that position from a moral standpoint, as making someone carry the child of her rapist is a tough pill to swallow. > > Based on that, it seems to me that most people in this country are OK with ending a human fetal life in at least some circumstances. The rest is left up to details of when and why. If you’re willing to paint liberals as unfeeling murderous monsters for having a pro-choice stance, then it only seems consistent to apply that same view to conservatives who are willing to “murder” fetal humans in the case of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother. Including Trump. one time Trump told someone something he thought they wanted to hear? Big fucking deal What did he say the next day? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/111 "2019-02-07T15:33:41Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Well, I didn’t say they _have_ to. Usually you sign a waiver that says anything they take off you belongs to the pathology dept. You can ask for it back, but no guarantee that you’ll get it. I can’t think of any instances where the pathology departments I’ve worked in have refused requests for patient specimens (such requests are received once in a while for gallstones and such which are apparently _de rigueur_ for display in a glass jar on one’s mantelpiece). It gets more complicated if you want an entire organ, as it will have been pickled in formalin, and while you can rinse them to eliminate the worst fumes, formalin is still regarded as a (relatively) low level carcinogen, so you’d probably have to sign a form indicating you are aware of the risk. Once we had a woman request (and receive) her uterus that she wanted to bury in her back yard. Oh, and fetuses (and miscarriage-type specimens) are sometimes requested and returned for burial for once they’ve received pathologic examination. As for [Placenta Helper](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4ggxg7/placenta_helper_an_old_saturday_night_live_ad_and/), you’d probably have to order it on eBay or Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/112 "2019-02-07T15:35:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > one time Trump told someone something he thought they wanted to hear? Big fucking deal > What did he say the next day? Probably that he’d put women in jail for having abortions. I don’t remember the timeline of his idiotic comments. Point being, it’s not out the mainstream for Republicans to be unfeeling murderous baby killers even by Republican standards. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/113 "2019-02-07T15:54:16Z")
> [@Baka](#): > > I never meant to mock people in desperate situations. I meant to challenge some pro choice folks who think a fetus isn’t a baby/human. > > For those folks I’d expect my proposition to eat the aborted fetus to not be morally reprehensible action. That’s all really. > > I believe a fetus is a baby and a human and I believe a baby has value. I also believe that people should have autonomy in their choices so I would not push my choice for life onto someone else who chooses an abortion Had you simply opened a thread saying that you “believe a fetus is a baby and a human and a baby has value”, you could have had a reasonable debate with people. Instead, you chose to poison the well with this idiotic proposition. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/114 "2019-02-07T22:52:44Z")
> [@Baka](#): > > I never meant to mock people in desperate situations. I meant to challenge some pro choice folks who think a fetus isn’t a baby/human. > > For those folks I’d expect my proposition to eat the aborted fetus to not be morally reprehensible action. That’s all really. It didn’t occur to you that people might oppose eating human fetuses for the same reason they oppose eating, say, a human brain? If I were you, I’d sue summer school to recover whatever tuition you wasted on Philosophy 009, because clearly you didn’t get your money’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/115 "2019-02-07T22:56:34Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > It didn’t occur to you that people might oppose eating human fetuses for the same reason they oppose eating, say, a human brain? > > If I were you, I’d sue summer school to recover whatever tuition you wasted on Philosophy 009, because clearly you didn’t get your money’s worth. Well he admitted to eating puppies so maybe there’s a cultural barrier here. ---
**Author:** ![Baka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@Baka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baka)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/116 "2019-02-09T02:21:21Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > It didn’t occur to you that people might oppose eating human fetuses for the same reason they oppose eating, say, a human brain? > > If I were you, I’d sue summer school to recover whatever tuition you wasted on Philosophy 009, because clearly you didn’t get your money’s worth. We don’t eat human meat because it was a person and we tend to respect peoples lives and thus find it Unsanctimonious to eat them. Obviously it has nothing to do with the actual meat. Only what the meat was: a person. Similarly many are opposed to eating dolphin: they are playful, intelligent etc. and we can almost personify (and eating people isn’t nice) them whereas it’s harder to do that with a chicken or the like. (Yes, I’ve had dolphin. You aren’t missing anything). Some people totally dehumanize (DNA aside please) a fetus. When your question is posed to these folks I would expect them to say “there is nothing morally reprehensible in eating a fetus but there is with eating a human brain”. Because a fetus isn’t a person. If there is an objection to eating a fetus It might challenge their way of viewing a fetus as something entirely devoid of personhood/humanity. I wholly agree with your logic. I’m wondering if my asinine proposition to eat fetuses will shine a light on the holes in some other peoples logic. \*\*I took Ritter Sports advice and asked the mods to close this thread. Not sure why they didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/117 "2019-02-09T02:34:22Z")
But I also wouldn’t want to eat a tumor that someone carved out of someone’s uterus. Not because I believe that there is some inherent person-hood in that tumor, or even that I necessarily believe it would be immoral but because I would find it gross. No if I grew up among certain tribes in New Guinea I might feel differently. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/118 "2019-02-09T02:36:56Z")
> [@Baka](#): > > I’m wondering if my asinine proposition to eat fetuses will shine a light on the holes in some other peoples logic. Nope. Your idiotic proposition does absolutely nothing to shine a light on anyone’s logic, including your own. > [@Baka](#): > > I also believe that people should have autonomy in their choices so I would not push my choice for life onto someone else who chooses an abortion And this statement indicates that you agree with pro-choice people, that the decision should be up to the women carrying the fetuses. ---
**Author:** ![Baka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@Baka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baka)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/119 "2019-02-09T02:40:39Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Had you simply opened a thread saying that you “believe a fetus is a baby and a human and a baby has value”, you could have had a reasonable debate with people. Instead, you chose to poison the well with this idiotic proposition. It was meant to be shocking and visceral. To produce a gut reaction first before logic could set in. ---
**Author:** ![Baka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/848f3c/32.png) [@Baka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baka)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060/120 "2019-02-09T02:45:50Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Nope. Your idiotic proposition does absolutely nothing to shine a light on anyone’s logic, including your own. > > And this statement indicates that you agree with pro-choice people, that the decision should be up to the women carrying the fetuses. I see abortion as a sad choice to have to make. I don’t think it’s ever a win/win. It’s not something I M in favor of but I’m also not in favor of dictating other peoples ethics/morality. Thus I am against legislation forbidding abortion. I do believe in the sanctity of human life and that includes the unborn. I’m am against abortion but I leave the decision to The individual, not the law. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/don-t-waste-that-perfectly-good-fetus/829060.md?page=7)