# Donald E. Westlake dies. An appreciation.

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**Created:** [January 2, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533 "2009-01-02T00:32:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/21 "2009-01-03T03:34:31Z")

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Well, damn. One of the few authors whose books I always looked forward to. No more Dortmunder is just a shame.

Condolences to the family.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/22 "2009-01-03T05:18:42Z")

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> [@Emily\_Litella](#):
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> My friends were passing around “The Hot Rock” back in the day. We thought it would make a great [movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068718/).  
> I haven’t read many more of his books, but there’s some interesting looking ones in this thread.

I cannot believe anyone ever read the Westlake caper and subsequently cast Robert Redford as hang-dog, pale-faced, defeated-looking John Dortmunder. A man raised in an orphanage, _The Bleeding Heart Sisters of Eternal Misery._

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/23 "2009-01-03T06:30:58Z")

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Damn. Three of my favorite writers gone in the last year: George MacDonald Fraser, Tony Hillerman and now Donald Westlake.

Someone mentioned Kahava as a non-Dortmunder book, but I would like to recommend High Adventure and Dancing Aztecs, both caper stories.

In the last one he pulled off something I have never seen before. A character has a brief encounter with the whole Dortmunder crew in a scene that has nothing to do with the plot. I’m sure Westlake just tossed it in for fun.

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/24 "2009-01-03T12:03:44Z")

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> [@Mrs.Cake](#):
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> Well, damn. One of the few authors whose books I always looked forward to. No more Dortmunder is just a shame.

Actually, one more. He had one finised and ready for publication. “Get Real” comes out later this year:

> **[Get Real (Dortmunder, Book 15): Westlake, Donald E.: 9780446178600: Amazon.com:...](https://www.amazon.com/Get-Real-Dortmunder-Book-15/dp/0446178608)**
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> Get Real (Dortmunder, Book 15) \[Westlake, Donald E.\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Get Real (Dortmunder, Book 15)

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/25 "2009-01-03T18:07:01Z")

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His book “the Axe” was brilliant and relates very well to the current economic climate.

I loved Dortmunder. I forget the name of the book where he wanted his ring back. That was TOO funny. “It was MY ring.”

🙂

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/26 "2009-01-03T20:24:19Z")

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Big fan of the Dortmunder books. _Kahawa_ is also a great one which I’ve recommended to several friends. _Humans_ is also very good, if a little different that his other work.

A sad loss.

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**Author:** ![Proudest\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/proudest_monkey/32/13257_2.png) [@Proudest\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Proudest_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/27 "2009-01-03T22:44:32Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Richard Stark is the pen name for the Parker character.

Thanks for the clarification. It will make my future library forays easier. 🙂

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/28 "2009-01-04T05:13:00Z")

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Love Dortmunder. Will miss Westlake.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/29 "2009-01-04T10:11:01Z")

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> [@Markxxx](#):
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> I loved Dortmunder. I forget the name of the book where he wanted his ring back. That was TOO funny. “It was MY ring.”

“What’s the Worst that could happen”.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/30 "2009-01-04T18:48:50Z")

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OK if you read one book by Westlake make it “What’s the Worst that could happen.”

That was SO funny.

I also liked “Baby Would I Lie,” it was light humour with a change of pace from Dortmunder. I wish he could’ve done a follow up book to it. Mainly 'cause the main character was female

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/31 "2009-01-04T23:56:18Z")

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Can anyone help a identify a Dortmunder book?

The only part I remember is Dortmunder and Kelp having to visit a computer nerd’s apartment. Apparently the guy rigged his doorbell to make terrifying sounds. I laughed out loud reading it but I can’t recall why, exactly.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/32 "2009-01-05T00:16:29Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Can anyone help a identify a Dortmunder book?
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> The only part I remember is Dortmunder and Kelp having to visit a computer nerd’s apartment. Apparently the guy rigged his doorbell to make terrifying sounds. I laughed out loud reading it but I can’t recall why, exactly.

Possibly the same one: _What’s the Worst That Could Happen?_,

There is a scene where they deal with a friendly computer nerd to track the movements of the corporate executive that stole Dortmunder’s ring.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/33 "2009-01-05T00:23:28Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Can anyone help a identify a Dortmunder book?
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> The only part I remember is Dortmunder and Kelp having to visit a computer nerd’s apartment. Apparently the guy rigged his doorbell to make terrifying sounds. I laughed out loud reading it but I can’t recall why, exactly.

I think that would be _Drowned Hopes_.

I had assembled kind of a mind’s eye list of actors playing the members of Dortmunder’s gang.

Dortmunder - Paul Giamatti  
Abby - Mercedes Rheul  
Andy Kelp - Bruce Campbell  
Stan Murch - Eric Stolz  
Murch’s Mom - Esthelle Getty  
Tiny Bulcher - King Kong Bundy

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/34 "2009-01-05T01:12:20Z")

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> [@Markxxx](#):
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> I also liked “Baby Would I Lie,” it was light humour with a change of pace from Dortmunder. I wish he could’ve done a follow up book to it. Mainly 'cause the main character was female

That was a followup to _Trust Me On This_.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/35 "2009-01-05T01:19:12Z")

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Thanks I’ll check that out. The computer nerd is in more than one book. But he plays a smaller role.

The Hot Rock is the first Dortmunder novel. I never liked the movie versions because no one ever comes close to my idea of Dormtunder. Certainly Robert Redford isn’t what I had envisioned for Dortmunder.

Here’s a link to Westlake’s website

[donaldwestlake.com/](http://www.donaldwestlake.com/)

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-e-westlake-dies-an-appreciation/479533/36 "2009-01-05T15:07:44Z")

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You know who would have been perfect? Peter Falk.

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