# Donald Just Lost The Election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 16, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103 "2016-09-16T18:03:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/41 "2016-09-16T22:44:20Z")
His hotel looks awesome. [https://www.trumphotels.com/washington-dc/](https://www.trumphotels.com/washington-dc/) I hope everyone stays there when they visit DC when he becomes POTUS. Clinton rented out the Lincoln bedroom so I don’t see anything wrong with what he’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/42 "2016-09-16T22:56:57Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > His hotel looks awesome. > > [https://www.trumphotels.com/washington-dc/](https://www.trumphotels.com/washington-dc/) > > I hope everyone stays there when they visit DC when he becomes POTUS. Clinton rented out the Lincoln bedroom so I don’t see anything wrong with what he’s doing. You’re going to have to hope a little harder than that. [How Trump’s Divisive Campaign Is Hurting His Hotel Busines](http://fortune.com/2016/08/01/donald-trump-hotels-sales/) > [@](#): > > Trump hotel bookings have plummeted nearly 60% for the first half of 2016, according to new data released today by the online travel site Hipmunk. The site measured the percentage of Trump bookings within its markets. For the first quarter, it found reservations tumbled 59.36% compared with the previous quarter, and for the second quarter, the group suffered a 57.46% decline, according to Hipmunk. > > “The share of Trump bookings is smaller than the same time frame of 2015,” says Adam Goldstein, Hipmunk’s CEO. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/43 "2016-09-16T23:05:53Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > His hotel looks awesome. > > [https://www.trumphotels.com/washington-dc/](https://www.trumphotels.com/washington-dc/) > > I hope everyone stays there when they visit DC when he becomes POTUS. Clinton rented out the Lincoln bedroom so I don’t see anything wrong with what he’s doing. Yeah. [about that](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-new-hotel-offers-everything-he-claims-to-hate/2016/09/16/fe08a18a-7c04-11e6-bd86-b7bbd53d2b5d_story.html?utm_term=.c5df8a672fa4)… > [@Dana Milbank in the Washington Post](#): > > The exchange, which I undertook wearing a made-in-China “Trump Hotels” bathrobe and Trump slippers, says everything you need to know about Donald Trump. Trump the candidate has talked of banning Muslims from the country and forcing those here to register and submit to surveillance. But Trump the hotelier welcomes Muslims with Korans and prayer rugs. > > … > > He campaigns on an “America First” theme — yet about the only American-made thing I could find in my hotel room was the small package of milk-chocolate Trump gold bullion ($25). > > He portrays himself as a populist friend of the little guy, yet he makes money renting out a presidential suite for $18,000 a night (a sign informed me that the maximum nightly rate for my room was $5,600). > > He derides the “establishment” but makes his living catering to it. The hotel lobby features a Brioni boutique and 3-foot-tall bottles of Veuve Clicquot sharing a bar top with Dom Pérignon; the room comes with a copy of Wine Spectator (“The Cheese Issue”); the hotel charges $15 to launder a shirt, $12 for Peanut M&Ms and $26 for a hamburger (sorry, no taco bowls). > > In my room, I found a Trump logo bathmat and towels from India, bone china from Japan, Italian cutlery and tiles, two telephones from Malaysia, a Swiss refrigerator, German coffee cups, Trump soaps and lotions from Canada and, from China, all four lamps, the coffee machine, the bathroom scale, the valet stand and the shower cap. The hotel’s managing director is from France. Most hotel workers I met during my stay had Caribbean or African accents. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/44 "2016-09-16T23:10:03Z")
Lets not imply too much, for all we know, those workers are here on a voluntary basis. Probably. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/45 "2016-09-16T23:50:22Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > The press follows him like a dog chasing a bone. One difference I’ve spotted – the reporting routinely calls out his attempt to blame Birtherism on Hillary as false, sometimes with unbleeped use of _the L-word_. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/46 "2016-09-16T23:54:07Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > @DSeid: > I am thinking/hoping this is the closest he gets too but I still have a hard time calling this thumb nose to the media as the inflection point. It’s just coincidentally happening as Hillary gets back on the trail acting normal. IMHO, the health scare gave Trump a short bump but keeping himself mostly constrained is what made it close enough for the bump to look scary. Oh I do not mean to imply his “thumb nose” is _the_ thing. But the package is. All together it turns the page. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/47 "2016-09-16T23:59:07Z")
CNN actually called Trump’s statements today “lies.” The actual word. You could tell that Wolf was trembling at crossing this line, but he got it out. So this is a line for the media. They’ve spent months beating around the bush and using indirection and commentators to make the case that Trump lies. Now they will say it. Maybe even say it every time Trump lies, which means they’ll use it every day. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/48 "2016-09-17T00:08:01Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I really have no idea what is going on in your brain. I’ve seen you lament how Hillary desperately needs to court the centrist white vote. You have assuredly seen the polls that show Trump has historically shitty numbers with Black voters. Yet you hope that this, by your own admission risky, cavalcade of Black celebrity attacks on Trump happen. What’s going on is that it makes sure that black voters aren’t complacent and that they have a reason to come out and vote. In states that come down to a margin of 1 to 1 1/2 percent, it could be a difference maker. Beyond that, it reminds the less Trumpy of the Trump supporters that maybe there’s some shame in voting for someone who deliberately promotes conspiracy theories. Moreover, as others have pointed out, it’s also a potential “trap” issue. Trump gets caught by surprise, the story doesn’t die down as fast as he would like, he gets peppered with more questions, and says even more dumb things. If nothing else, it could (and probably will) stop the profuse bleeding of bad press for Hillary Clinton and shifts the negativity in his direction for a few days. It’s about black voters, but not about them solely. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/49 "2016-09-17T00:12:36Z")
Regarding Trump finally conceding that the President was in fact born in America, The New York Times says today, “Indeed, the topic was such a fringe issue within the Republican Party that in 2011, conservatives, including Ann Coulter, now a vocal Trump supporter, called on Mr. Trump to stop pursuing the issue.” I think you’d have to be pretty out there for Ann Coulter to be, relatively, the voice of reason. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/50 "2016-09-17T01:38:12Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > His hotel looks awesome. A lot of people are talking about how his hotels have hidden cameras in all the rooms so he can record the guests fucking, and then sell the tapes back to future guests on his porn channels. I don’t know, but a lot of very smart people are saying this. I think somebody should look into this. ---
**Author:** ![hulka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5e925/32.png) [@hulka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hulka)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/51 "2016-09-17T01:45:33Z")
I’ve spoken to several upper echelon Chicago Police Department officials who told me that they’ve seen the real Obama birth certificate, which they found during a now-covered-up drug raid at his residence. it was from… KENYA! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/52 "2016-09-17T01:46:33Z")
**Ike** , I think I heard that, too. I can’t remember where–maybe here–but it was quite recently, maybe two minutes ago. All I know is that it’s trending. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/53 "2016-09-17T01:55:16Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > What’s going on is that it makes sure that black voters aren’t complacent and that they have a reason to come out and vote. In states that come down to a margin of 1 to 1 1/2 percent, it could be a difference maker. Beyond that, it reminds the less Trumpy of the Trump supporters that maybe there’s some shame in voting for someone who deliberately promotes conspiracy theories. Moreover, as others have pointed out, it’s also a potential “trap” issue. Trump gets caught by surprise, the story doesn’t die down as fast as he would like, he gets peppered with more questions, and says even more dumb things. If nothing else, it could (and probably will) stop the profuse bleeding of bad press for Hillary Clinton and shifts the negativity in his direction for a few days. It’s about black voters, but not about them solely. Doesn’t sound worth the backlash risk you spoke of. Black voter turnout is usually pretty good and I don’t see an angry Beyonce CNN interview making much of a difference. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/54 "2016-09-17T02:00:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > My hope is that high-profile African Americans - not just one or two but many - will come out in droves and troll this shit out of Donald Trump over this one. I mean, get people like Samuel L Jackson, Morgan Freeman, Ice Cube, Oprah, Lebron James…get all of them to come out and just say Trump is a sick, bigoted liar who doesn’t deserve a single African American vote. It’s risky, I know, because it can always backfire and celebrities don’t like to mix in politics too often for reasons that are understandable. But these are people who have had a history of political involvement, even if on the periphery, and I hope they do it now. What’s the big deal? Seriously? I really don’t get the panties in the wad over this. There are required to be met for being President. One is being a natural born citizen. If someone has a more exotic upbringing, like Obama, or even McCain for that matter, shouldn’t someone check it out? Now if people are STILL questioning Obama’s eligibility today, then that’s problem—for them. But the way I see it, Obama had an exotic upbringing, it was looked into (as it should have been) and that ends it. Trump, as far as I’ve heard today, did state that Obama was born here. So, why is this still a problem? Why is it racism? As I said, it seems to me that it has to do with the fact that he had a more exotic childhood than most. No? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/55 "2016-09-17T02:19:03Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > What’s the big deal? Seriously? Oh, come on. Trump continued it well past the “it’s a reasonable question” phase. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/56 "2016-09-17T02:19:14Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > What’s the big deal? Seriously? > > I really don’t get the panties in the wad over this. There are required to be met for being President. One is being a natural born citizen. If someone has a more exotic upbringing, like Obama, or even McCain for that matter, shouldn’t someone check it out? > > Now if people are STILL questioning Obama’s eligibility today, then that’s problem—for them. But the way I see it, Obama had an exotic upbringing, it was looked into (as it should have been) and that ends it. Trump, as far as I’ve heard today, did state that Obama was born here. So, why is this still a problem? Why is it racism? As I said, it seems to me that it has to do with the fact that he had a more exotic childhood than most. No? There was never any evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii. Trump spread this baseless smear for years despite zero evidence. Nothing changed between 2011 and now, and he continued birthering for years afterwards, only finally retracting it today. Birtherism never had anything behind it but racism, _since there’s no other possible explanation_. There was never any evidence for it, not a single shred, and there was tons of evidence (freely available in 2008) that he was born in Hawaii. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/57 "2016-09-17T02:22:15Z")
Being born in Cleveland, I had a more exotic childhood than most. Ghoulardi…River on fire…Harvey Pekar. It was always thrilling, but no one ever questioned my one hundred per cent Americanism. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/58 "2016-09-17T02:50:54Z")
Is this the right place to post a “Good God, I’ve missed Keith Olbermann’s rants about politics instead of sports,” link? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/bQueaSlvjCw/maxresdefault.jpg "176 Shocking Things Donald Trump Has Done This Election | The Closer with Keith Olbermann | GQ") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQueaSlvjCw) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/59 "2016-09-17T03:06:42Z")
I just heard that Donald Trump collapsed on stage and was rushed to the hospital, where they pumped his stomach and discovered ten gallons of Rod Stewart’s semen. #DonaldTrump #GerbilStuffing #TireInflatorExplodedRectum ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103/60 "2016-09-17T03:32:42Z")
Trump obliquely invites violence against Clinton. He’ll say anything to stay in the headlines. > [@](#): > > Donald J. Trump once again raised the specter of violence against Hillary Clinton, suggesting Friday that the Secret Service agents who guard her voluntarily disarm to “see what happens to her” without their protection. > > “I think that her bodyguards should drop all weapons,” Mr. Trump said at a rally in Miami, to loud applause. “I think they should disarm. Immediately.” > > He went on: “Let’s see what happens to her. Take their guns away, O.K. It’ll be very dangerous.” > > [MORE](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html?partner=rss&emc=rss) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-just-lost-the-election/766103.md?page=4)