# Donald Trump accused of marital rape

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 28, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371 "2015-07-28T03:00:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/41 "2015-07-28T16:38:11Z")

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I wouldn’t have been a bit surprised if Ivana’s comment had been "Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/42 "2015-07-28T22:06:31Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And, far more importantly, 'oo givee rat’s ass, if the victim was Ivana Trump? All good and decent Americans would like to see her raped **to death** on live national television – then again, all good and decent Americans would like to see the exact same thing only worse happen to The Donald himself.

NOT appropriate.

Your final clause wishing that on the Donald is not funny and has no place in this forum. Your leading clause, wishing harm on someone who is not even a part of the current political cycle that might encourage such shameful comments, is utterly out of line.

Do not repeat this behavior.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/43 "2015-07-28T22:08:01Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Back up a minute…Trump had\*\*\* plastic surgery \*\*\*on _ **his hair** _???

I have to admit my edification as well - bald spot reduction surgery… what an age we live in.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/44 "2015-07-28T23:12:49Z")

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Apparently, Michael Cohen doesn’t [speak](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/28/politics/donald-trump-adviser-michael-cohen-rape/) for the Trump campaign…anymore.

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> The campaign also distanced itself from Cohen, who has spent weeks appearing on multiple television news shows, including CNN’s “New Day,” to play up Trump’s candidacy for president and defend the campaign from attacks from Trump’s primary opponents.
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> “Michael Cohen is a corporate employee and is not affiliated with the campaign in any way.=,” Lewandowski told CNN.
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> When asked whether Cohen would continue to make television appearances and behave as a surrogate for Trump, he dismissed the question, saying the campaign and Trump’s company are separate enterprises.
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> “This would be like asking Nike what they think of Reebok,” Lewandowski said.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall at Trump HQ…

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/45 "2015-07-28T23:24:25Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I have to admit my edification as well - bald spot reduction surgery… what an age we live in.

Im aware that there is all sorts of weird plastic surgery, I was more shocked by the fact that Trump’s comically ridiculous hair is literally the “ **after**  **picture** ”.

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**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/46 "2015-07-29T00:03:20Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Me:
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> This is one bloody hairball. I can’t believe that Trump’s had a tv show all these years and no one’s challenged him about the scene with Ivana. What a god damn psychopath.

I don’t know the answers but it seems like every time there is a scandal on the internet about some old news, it was something previously covered or at least strongly rumored for years and/or enough people knew about it that it was considered old news to many. Off the top of my head- The Ron Paul newsletters, Marky Mark’s violent past, Bill Cosby to an extent, various racial diatribes (Hulk Hogan’s latest was reported on in 2012), etc.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/47 "2015-07-29T02:03:47Z")

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So, Ivana is saying the rape wasn’t really a rape. Is she also denying the bit where he was pulling out fistfulls of her hair? Because that’s still pretty fucked up. I suppose a wifebeater in the Oval Office is better than a rapist, but not by a whole helluva lot.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/48 "2015-07-29T02:48:05Z")

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He was harvesting for transplants.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/49 "2015-07-29T03:26:49Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> So, Ivana is saying the rape wasn’t really a rape. Is she also denying the bit where he was pulling out fistfulls of her hair? Because that’s still pretty fucked up. I suppose a wifebeater in the Oval Office is better than a rapist, but not by a whole helluva lot.

And if she doesn’t deny it then it must be true because she’s a woman who accused her ex-husband of raping her but now insists it never happened?

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/50 "2015-07-29T03:41:49Z")

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As a question of law, was marital rape an actual crime in whatever jurisdiction Trump was in at the time?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/51 "2015-07-29T03:50:30Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> As a question of law, was marital rape an actual crime in whatever jurisdiction Trump was in at the time?

[New York ruling in 1984](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_(United_States_law)):

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> In some states, courts have struck down the marital exemption as unconstitutional. In the 1984 New York Court of Appeals case of People v. Liberta, judge Sol Wachtler stated that “a marriage license should not be viewed as a license for a husband to forcibly rape his wife with impunity. A married woman has the same right to control her own body as does an unmarried woman”.

The former Mrs. Trump’s allegation was about a 1989 incident.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/52 "2015-07-29T03:58:06Z")

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Okay. It doesn’t make a difference from a moral point of view, but that’s interesting to know.

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**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/53 "2015-07-29T04:11:23Z")

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Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a 5th Avenue, you never know what you’ll find.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/54 "2015-07-29T04:27:42Z")

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No, no, no, this makes me angry and sad!

I was working on this highly specific psycho-historical projection wherein Trump won the election (with running mate Joe Arpaio) and proceeded to Palin out in 17 months.

Well, he won’t get enough swing voters now. Looks like we’re probably stuck with Jeb.

_Jeb._ :mad:

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-accused-of-marital-rape/726371/55 "2015-07-29T13:27:34Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> [New York ruling in 1984](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_(United_States_law)):

In case anyone is confused, the Court of Appeals is what New York calls its highest (i.e. supreme) court. It also has a Supreme Court, but that’s the trial court - what most states call a district court.

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