# Donald Trump and Hannibal Lecter. What's up with this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** movies, trump\ **Created:** [July 25, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762 "2024-07-25T04:10:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762/101 "2024-08-05T01:19:15Z")
For some reason, I doubt Trump has even a passing knowledge of Townes. Even if you said “Pancho and Lefty,” he’d probably say either, “You mean Willie Nelson?” or, more likely, “You mean Poncho and Lefty.” For background, the LGTVZ album was recorded in 1972, Townes died in 1997. Years ago, shortly after Townes’ death (last century), I was involved in a mailing list concerned with Townes. From it, I found out that in the mid 1950s, Townes’ father, in the oil business, moved the family to Midland, Texas (or was it Odessa?). Anyway, Bush Jr. was President at the time (late 1990s), and George, Sr. had moved his family there around the same time. I postulated to the list, knowing Townes’ fondness of mood-altering substances, and Jr. Bush’s youthful indiscretions were well known, that it isn’t entirely unlikely that they were pre-teen buddies, as oil-baron families tend to know one another. Sadly (or fortunately, I guess), the mailing list informed me that Townes Family moved to Montana before Bush moved there. Oh, well… ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762/102 "2024-08-05T01:49:43Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > Bush Jr. was President at the time (late 1990s) Bush Jr. was elected in 2000, served from 2001-2009. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762/103 "2024-08-05T01:51:06Z")
OK, Early 2000s… ---
**Author:** ![Nyvaak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nyvaak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nyvaak)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762/104 "2024-08-05T02:21:18Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I wonder why he considers him to be dead. This is what confuses me. (OK, one of the hundred thousand things about Trump that confuses me.) He calls him the “late, great,” but doesn’t he also refer to him in the present tense? “He’s a wonderful man.” and “He loves me.” Those who are saying Trump doesn’t know what “late” means in this context may be on to something. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762/105 "2024-08-05T03:10:54Z")
> [@Nyvaak](#): > > Those who are saying Trump doesn’t know what “late” means in this context may be on to something. Yes, I think he thinks “late great” is a way to describe someone who is very great. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762/106 "2024-08-05T03:21:34Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I think he thinks “late great” is a way to describe someone who is very great. Or who is great for something in the past. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762/107 "2024-08-14T17:35:28Z")
The Post has an article about this. Seems like a lot of trump supporters read whatever they want to into his talking about it. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/14/why-trump-keeps-talking-about-fictional-serial-killer-hannibal-lecter/?utm\_campaign=wp\_post\_most&utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl\_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3eb5154%2F66bcd1b6406d8e209115a003%2F6552f1c24aedb46329b01569%2F10%2F55%2F66bcd1b6406d8e209115a003](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/14/why-trump-keeps-talking-about-fictional-serial-killer-hannibal-lecter/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3eb5154%2F66bcd1b6406d8e209115a003%2F6552f1c24aedb46329b01569%2F10%2F55%2F66bcd1b6406d8e209115a003) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-hannibal-lecter-whats-up-with-this/1004762.md?page=5)