# Donald Trump and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 3, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196 "2024-08-03T16:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/261 "2024-09-14T00:41:11Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Let him have reasonable privacy. After what he and his minions have done to Fani Willis? Fuck that shit. Sauce for the goose… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/262 "2024-09-14T00:41:14Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Outing Trump as a current adulterer would help him by giving a sympathy vote …Is this a joke? People are going to feel sorry for Donald Trump because he got caught cheating on his wife for the sixth time? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/263 "2024-09-14T00:41:17Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Everyone knows he’s a repeat adulterer. And AFAIK, Trump in not a moralist when it comes to adultery. Under those circumstances, I think criticism of him for possible adultery is a bad idea. Sure, his fans don’t really hold him to any standards but some of them might not like that he is cheating on their beloved, classy first lady. On the other hand, they might just shit all over her in fealty to him. But they should have that choice. Still, I really don’t care, do u? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/264 "2024-09-14T00:53:08Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Sure, his fans don’t really hold him to any standards but some of them might not like that he is cheating on their beloved, classy first lady. A few. I still think it is a bigger group that would be reassured over his acting like a younger man. However, I have to admit to there being a lack of precedents for public knowledge of adultery helping the politician adulterer. If I am correct, it would be, as so much with Trump, unprecedented. P.S. However, I want to emphasize that this is all speculation. I have no credible evidence he is a recent adulterer. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/265 "2024-09-14T01:14:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Will that be popular enough to help him? The problem with Trump’s strategy is that when you pledge to cut taxes, you want people to think you’re making their lives easier. But when people hear it’s tied to overtime, they will hear that they need to work more to enjoy what you’re doing, which then sounds like things will be even harder. Whatever the actual benefit of the tax break, or the intentions of the plan, people are going to at least subliminally hear, “I want you to work more.” You don’t want a word like “overtime” to be on their minds, especially when you’re also constantly talking about how inflation makes things more expensive because Biden is tanking the economy. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/266 "2024-09-14T01:24:51Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I have to admit to there being a lack of precedents for public knowledge of adultery helping the politician adulterer. You might be surprised. > [@](#): > > …the Soviets _did_ at one point attempt to blackmail Sukarno by filming him having sex with _a group_ of flight attendants. “When … Sukarno visited Moscow in the 1960s, the KGB sought to take advantage of his renowned sexual appetite, sending a batch of glamorous young women posing as air hostesses to his hotel,” Tim Lister wrote in a CNN piece on [sex and espionage](http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/18/sex-and-espionage-a-long-and-sordid-history/)… > > the KGB misread a crucial aspect of Sukarno’s sexual proclivities — he never tried to hide those tendencies. > > If anything, he _flaunted_ them. > > Sukarno openly supported polygamy, Elizabeth Martyn explained in [_The Women’s Movement in Postcolonial Indonesia_](https://www.amazon.com/Womens-Movement-Postcolonial-Indonesia-Democracy-ebook/dp/B000OT87TI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1477817409&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Women%E2%80%99s+Movement+in+Postcolonial+Indonesia&linkCode=ll1&tag=brightmount05-20&linkId=62ff1a20a0c0d8e031e65fc9d01bf2ba). He took on four “official” wives while maintaining a “de facto” marriage with a fifth wife. And Sukarno once bragged to a U.S. diplomat that he was “a very physical man who needed sex every day,” and shocked his government hosts in Washington when he demanded they provide him with call girls during a visit, according to Peter Arnett’s [_Live From the Battlefield_](https://www.amazon.com/Live-Battlefield-Vietnam-Baghdad-Worlds/dp/0684800365/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1477817440&sr=8-1&keywords=Live+From+the+Battlefield&linkCode=ll1&tag=brightmount05-20&linkId=278a18dd1334cdb0be014418fda5d2ee)_._… > > “When the Russians later confronted him with a film of the lurid encounter, Sukarno was apparently delighted,” Lister wrote. > > “Legend has it he even asked for extra copies.” > **[The CIA and KGB Both Tried to Blackmail This World Leader With Sex Tapes](https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-cia-and-kgb-tried-to-blackmail-this-world-leader-with-sex-tapes-927fc7ddbd48)** > > One had a real video, the other decided to make a fake ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/267 "2024-09-14T01:36:36Z")
> [@2nd\_Law](#): > > After what he and his minions have done to Fani Willis? Fuck that shit. Sauce for the goose… Not to mention what he and Rudy did to those poll workers in georgia? Ruby Moss and Shay Freeman? Yeah, fuck his privacy. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/268 "2024-09-14T01:36:48Z")
I like to think this doesn’t bode well for Trump, and perhaps they’ll actually respect the election. Perhaps. [https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4878373-house-republicans-election-results/](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4878373-house-republicans-election-results/) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/269 "2024-09-14T01:46:37Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > The press gave it to JFK. Did that hurt the country? I didn’t know Jack Kennedy. I never worked with Jack Kennedy. But I know Donald J. Trump is no Jack Kennedy. The press stopped giving presidents that kind of privacy a long, long time ago. Normally I’m inclined to leave someone’s love life alone, but Trump’s party seems to think they have business in my bedroom, so fair’s fair. We’re looking at a Moms for Liberty situation here. It’s the hypocrisy that bothers me. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/270 "2024-09-14T01:48:54Z")
IMO, if Trump wanted privacy he should have put his inheritance into a mutual fund and moved to Martha’s Vineyard instead of spending the last half century trying to convince everyone he’s the Greatest Person Who Ever Lived. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/271 "2024-09-14T02:10:56Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > > > I have to admit to there being a lack of precedents for public knowledge of adultery helping the politician adulterer. > > You might be surprised. Good catch. Sukarno’s [Guided Democracy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guided_Democracy_in_Indonesia) (leaving out the fake socialist veneer) sounds ballpark similar to what Trump wants to do with the U.S. I guess I have to be on the fence as to whether a big Trump sex scandal would help or hurt. It would take attention away from Harris, and I believe she would benefit from more media. And the idea of proving he’s not too old to, well, you know, has to be a Trump plus. But it would hurt him with Slovenian-Americans. Are there many? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/272 "2024-09-14T05:19:37Z")
> **[Laura Loomer and Trump Sitting in a Tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G](https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/is-trump-having-an-affair-with-laura-loomer-the-far-right-extremist-21281352)** > > The far-right provocateur and the former president are spending quite a bit of...together time. Where's Melania? > I want to see who Donald is gonna throw under the bus first - his wife who hates him and refuses to let him touch her but will absolutely have his ass on a platter in divorce court, or his sidepiece who his entire staff hates and is going to make him lose the election. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/273 "2024-09-14T06:03:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > want to see who Donald is gonna throw under the bus first Will it cost him any money to dump Loomer? And will keeping Loomer really cost him many votes? Some pollster should include that question in their next poll. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/274 "2024-09-14T08:25:35Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I want to see who Donald is gonna throw under the bus first - his wife who hates him and refuses to let him touch her but will absolutely have his ass on a platter in divorce court, or his sidepiece who his entire staff hates and is going to make him lose the election. Probably both. He’s now putting the moves on Elon Musk: > ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/275 "2024-09-14T20:07:02Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Is Trump Having an Affair With Laura Loomer, the Far-Right Extremist? | Miami New Times](https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/is-trump-having-an-affair-with-laura-loomer-the-far-right-extremist-21281352) > > [x.com](https://x.com/justinbaragona/status/1834681869926797453) > > I want to see who Donald is gonna throw under the bus first - his wife who hates him and refuses to let him touch her but will absolutely have his ass on a platter in divorce court, or his sidepiece who his entire staff hates and is going to make him lose the election. Drudge is still a thing? ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/276 "2024-09-14T22:35:45Z")
Trump is trying to out-do Grover Cleveland, not just by having nonconsecutive terms, but with a wild sexual affair that became fodder in a vicious campaign. The attached article was when John Edwards was running in 2011; nothing new under the sun. > **[Grover Cleveland's Sex Scandal: The Most Despicable in American Political...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/grover-clevelands-sex-scandal-the-most-despicable-in-american-political-history)** > > Forget Arnold Schwarzenegger or John Edwards. One of the greatest political sex scandals happened to Grover Cleveland. Journalist Charles Lachman reveals the sordid details of rape, an unwanted child, and the coverup. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/277 "2024-09-15T00:32:59Z")
This article (gift link) is a few months old, but it’s an interesting profile of Loomer. She’s positively obsessed with Trump, and at the time the reporter met with her she was borderline stalking him…….she told the reporter that she knew someone that could get them into Mar-a-Lago and that if they were in the dining room at the right time, they might be able to meet Trump. She backed out of the offer, though….because she thought Trump would be displeased if she brought a WaPo reporter to the club. She’s said several times that Trump is her reason for living, and she lost weight for him because she knows he likes a certain body type. I hope this new Loomer ban is short lived, its fun to watch her bring out the crazy. Gift link that isn’t generating a preview for some reason. Since there’s no preview, the title and description is: _ **For Laura Loomer, a Trump comeback is everything** _ _The anti-Islam, anti-immigration crusader has repelled even would-be allies in the MAGA movement — with one major exception._ [https://wapo.st/4gpjMjM](https://wapo.st/4gpjMjM) ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/278 "2024-09-15T00:37:23Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > But it would hurt him with Slovenian-Americans. Are there many? According to Wikipedia, about 300,000. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/279 "2024-09-15T00:41:32Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I hope this new Loomer ban is short lived, its fun to watch her bring out the crazy. Trump’s fans seem to like Melania, and he seems to like her too even though the feeling clearly isn’t mutual these days. I predict he’s gonna pull the “I don’t know anything about Laura Loomer” card soon. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/280 "2024-09-15T18:04:23Z")
People are saying … That in the key states of Georgia and North Carolina, there’s a substantial South Asian population who may not appreciate Trump’s sidekick talking about making the While House smell like curry. And they get to vote. And those states are potentially flippable, where a few thousand votes may make a difference. And they’re warning Trump about this. Whose response is: > “I don’t know that much about it. No, I don’t.” > **[Trump allies worry his ties to far-right activist Laura Loomer could cost him...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-allies-worry-laura-loomer-georgia-north-carolina-rcna171137)** > > The former president's allies say Trump needs to put distance between himself and Loomer — or the association risks alienating key groups of voters in battleground states. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=15)