# Donald Trump and the runup to the 2024 election

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 3, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196 "2024-08-03T16:49:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/401 "2024-09-27T01:49:57Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Therefore depends on how the state structures the HOAs.

Correct. Which is why I said

> [@Railer13](#):
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> Some states have ruled that it’s okay for HOAs to have a rule against political signs; others have ruled just the opposite.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/402 "2024-09-27T03:00:47Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> In short, Trump’s success appears to be the result of a broken society.

Even back in 2016, I know there were some discussions about the resentment many whites at the lower end of the economic spectrum felt. During Trump’s run back then, I remember seeing a sheriff from a northern state talking about the free laptops every undocumented alien gets when they enter the United States. Going further back there’s Reagan’s “welfare queens” of course.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/403 "2024-09-27T03:38:58Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> These people are nuts. They just want freedom to be assholes, and Trump gives them permission to fight for it.

I believe this is literally true. See the article I cited just four posts before yours. They’re psychopaths who feel they’ve been mistreated and never given a fair shake by society and by social and governmental institutions, and want to compensate for their perceived helplessness by electing a strongman who in effect promises to create institutional chaos and burn it all to the ground.

In that respect many Trump supporters – certainly not all, but the devoted hardcore followers – have the social pathology of violent criminals who feel they’ve been marginalized and mistreated their whole lives and are motivated by revenge and destruction. It’s no wonder that Trumpists rally around guns, racism, and Confederate and Nazi symbols.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/404 "2024-09-27T03:42:47Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Even back in 2016, I know there were some discussions about the resentment many whites at the lower end of the economic spectrum felt.

I mean, Bob Dylan literally mused on that 60 years ago;

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> A South politician preaches to the poor white man  
> "You got more than the blacks, don’t complain  
> You’re better than them, you been born with white skin, " they explain  
> And the Negro’s name  
> Is used, it is plain  
> For the politician’s gain  
> As he rises to fame  
> And the poor white remains  
> On the caboose of the train  
> But it ain’t him to blame  
> He’s only a pawn in their game

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/405 "2024-09-27T04:32:57Z")

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I just saw this.  
Not sure if it’s paywalled:

> **[Donald Trump’s Many Lucky Breaks](https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/donald-trumps-many-lucky-breaks?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us)**
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> A new book by two New York Times investigative reporters comprehensively debunks the notion that Trump is a good businessman.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/406 "2024-09-27T13:29:51Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> There are roughly 97k Ukrainians in PA, to take just one state.

The full transcript of Trump’s discussed Wednesday speech is out:

[”Ukraine Is Gone” and Iran “Going to Blow It to Smittereens” Speech](https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/trump-makes-campaign-stop-in-north-carolina)

Utter Putinist defeatism:

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> The country is absolutely obliterated. Millions and millions of people, including all of these great soldiers, they’re dead. Those gorgeous buildings with golden towers are demolished and laying broken on their side, and you’ll never see that kind of a town or city again. It can never be duplicated. They’re all demolished, other than Kiev. You’ll never be able to rebuild the cities or towns the way they are, impossible to do.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/407 "2024-09-27T14:19:44Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> I just saw this.  
> Not sure if it’s paywalled:
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> > [Donald Trump’s Many Lucky Breaks | The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/donald-trumps-many-lucky-breaks?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us)

Yeah, the New Yorker is paywalled. But this book was discussed and the authors interviewed on _Fresh Air_ (NPR) on September 17. Here’s a recording and a transcript. Riveting and nauseating at the same time.

> **['Lucky Loser' dispels the myth of Trump as a self-made billionaire](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/17/g-s1-23396/lucky-loser-dispels-the-myth-of-trump-as-a-self-made-billionaire)**
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> Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporters Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner spent years examining Trump's finances and businesses. They trace how he squandered his father's fortune in a new book.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/408 "2024-09-27T14:44:56Z")

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i have seen them on msnbc. i have mostly seen craig in interviews. she has been and is amazing in her pursuit of the money trail.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/409 "2024-09-27T17:30:27Z")

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Another trailer to the movie _The Apprentice_, about Trump’s tutelage under cutthroat lawyer Roy Cohn, just dropped. The movie hits theaters October 11th.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gci6qGWHXnA/maxresdefault.jpg "The Apprentice Exclusive Movie Clip - A Million Bucks (2024)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gci6qGWHXnA)

The allusions to Trump’s current persona are ridiculously obvious; it’s a villain’s origin story. But it’s apparently getting good reviews. It has a 77% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

> **[The Apprentice | Rotten Tomatoes](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_apprentice)**
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> A young Donald Trump (Sebastian Stan), eager to make his name as a hungry second son of a wealthy family in 1970s New York, comes under the spell of Roy Cohn (Jeremy Strong), the cutthroat attorney who would help create the Donald Trump we know...

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/410 "2024-09-27T17:44:44Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> In that respect many Trump supporters – certainly not all, but the devoted hardcore followers – have the social pathology of violent criminals who feel they’ve been marginalized and mistreated their whole lives and are motivated by revenge and destruction.

I think of it this way… Have you ever been so enraged that it was hard to think straight, and you end up doing something you later regret?

Imagine you live your life like that all the time, and never calm down enough to realize that you’ve made a mistake. That is what a large part of MAGA is like. It’s misery feeding upon misery and wanting to spread misery as a result.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/411 "2024-09-27T17:46:55Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Another trailer to the movie _The Apprentice_, about Trump’s tutelage under cutthroat lawyer Roy Cohn, just dropped. The movie hits theaters October 11th.
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> [https://youtu.be/gci6qGWHXnA?si=Y1HRyxFpo8l64ZWe/](https://youtu.be/gci6qGWHXnA?si=Y1HRyxFpo8l64ZWe/)
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> The allusions to Trump’s current persona are ridiculously obvious; it’s a villain’s origin story. But it’s apparently getting good reviews. It has a 77% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
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> [The Apprentice | Rotten Tomatoes](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_apprentice)

That’s funny because one of MAGA James Woods best performances was playing Roy Cohn in a HBO movie.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/412 "2024-09-27T19:38:59Z")

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Trump just found out that people can use Google to look up bad things about him and says that it’s UNFAIR and ELECTION INTERFERENCE.

> **['Illegal activity:' Trump threatens Google over 'bad stories' about him](https://www.rawstory.com/google-trump/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump threatened to prosecute Google because a conservative think tank didn't like the results of two search queries made on a single day. Trump complained of "ILLEGAL ACTIVITY" on Truth Social Friday afternoon the source of...

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/413 "2024-09-27T21:07:47Z")

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Maybe he can figure out a way to sue Reality for being…um…_Real_.

_“It’s not fair! Reality is against me!”_

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/414 "2024-09-27T21:49:20Z")

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It’s been said that reality has a well/known liberal bias.

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/415 "2024-09-27T22:35:30Z")

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Trump has been printing out Laura Loomer’s tweets, signing them, and mailing them to her.

> <https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1839774051016802619>

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/416 "2024-09-27T23:03:46Z")

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Darn, these look like it was from before she was apparently turfed out by Trump. I was hoping for another round of infighting.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/417 "2024-09-27T23:31:31Z")

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Are we sure she wasn’t mailing them to herself?

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/418 "2024-09-27T23:35:56Z")

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Now **THAT** makes sense.

She probably scribbles Donnie’s name (in his handwriting) in the margins of her algebra book.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/419 "2024-09-28T03:00:54Z")

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What’s with trump’s obsession with sex change operations? Little Jimmy goes to school, gets a sex change, and thanks to modern medicine, is able to come home the same day. He’s got another one about Kamala giving immigrants sex changes. Did even one reporter ask for a follow-up on that, or maybe a cite? Or even, “where did you hear that?” Of course it’s bullshit, but he’s never asked for cites for _anything_ he says.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/420 "2024-09-28T08:53:07Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> What’s with trump’s obsession with sex change operations?

Probably his advisers and toadies whispering in his ear, since transgender people are the latest favored target for persecution by the Republicans. He’s known to be easily influenced, especially in hateful directions.

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