# Donald Trump and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 3, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196 "2024-08-03T16:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/461 "2024-10-04T21:01:42Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Trump is going to get a nice infusion of cash from Oklahoma. This is why he wanted to run for POTUS in the first place. It’s so messed up that this is the whole reason for everything, stuff like this. (I mean, now it’s a desperate attempt to avoid prison but originally it was stuff like this.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/462 "2024-10-08T17:23:00Z")
Bob Woodward says that, in the early days of the pandemic, Trump secretly sent Putin a bunch of then-rare covid tests for his personal use. > **['Don't tell anybody': Bob Woodward book claims Putin urged Trump to keep...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-2669357309/)** > > A new book from legendary Watergate journalist Bob Woodward reveals that former President Donald Trump in 2020 sent Russian President Vladimir Putin a secret stash of COVID-19 tests during the early days of the deadly pandemic that would go on to... ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/463 "2024-10-08T18:18:32Z")
Well, you’ll all be happy that Trump has taken a firm stand against anti-Semitism. It’s a bold move, and I’m sure that the rest of the GOP will be right behind him. > **[Trump vows to ‘remove the Jew haters’ if reelected during event commemorating...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/trump-remove-jew-haters-october-7-event/index.html)** > > Former President Donald Trump on Monday said he would “remove the Jew haters” if reelected as he participated in an event commemorating the first anniversary of the October 7 Hamas attacks in Israel. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/464 "2024-10-08T19:24:29Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > f I can be honest here: > > [An estimated 1.6 million immigrants work in the construction industry nationwide, comprising 20% of the industry’s total workforce.](https://limos.engin.umich.edu/deitabase/2024/05/28/undocumented-construction-workers-us/) I live in a housing development that’s still under construction, so there are buildings going up all around me. And my reaction to this statistic is: is that all? Looking around me I’d say it’s closer to 100%. When I hear the framers and plumbers and roofers and dry-wall guys talking to each other, it’s all Spanish. If Trump got his way and all immigrants were deported (and they won’t be fussy about legal vs illegal) construction would screech to an immediate halt. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/465 "2024-10-08T20:11:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Well, you’ll all be happy that Trump has taken a firm stand against anti-Semitism. It’s a bold move, and I’m sure that the rest of the GOP will be right behind him. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/trump-remove-jew-haters-october-7-event/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/trump-remove-jew-haters-october-7-event/index.html) Funny headline by The Onion… damn I can’t keep up with reality. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/466 "2024-10-08T20:42:28Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Well, you’ll all be happy that Trump has taken a firm stand against anti-Semitism. It’s a bold move, and I’m sure that the rest of the GOP will be right behind him. All the Nazis understand exactly who he is talking about. This won’t faze them. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/467 "2024-10-08T20:57:02Z")
miss read. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/468 "2024-10-08T21:07:40Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > All the Nazis understand exactly who he is talking about. Hell, I’m not a Nazi or a Jew-hater and I knew exactly who he was talking about. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/469 "2024-10-09T01:24:59Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Former President Donald Trump on Monday said he would “remove the Jew haters” if reelected…[https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/trump-remove-jew-haters-october-7-event/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/08/politics/trump-remove-jew-haters-october-7-event/index.html) There goes his entire base! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/470 "2024-10-09T17:43:33Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > If Trump got his way and all immigrants were deported (and they won’t be fussy about legal vs illegal) construction would screech to an immediate halt. It won’t even be a matter of documented or not, it’ll be a matter of “brown”; native-born American citizens get deported too for being “immigrants”. Or simply flee with their families to a safer state when they see the latest round of persecution coming. Because it’s all about racism, _not_ immigration. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/471 "2024-10-10T08:05:39Z")
Trump’s turning down a debate on Fox. I guess he feels like they haven’t been properly obsequious and given him enough butt-smooches. I’d do it just to make Harris have to either turn it down or take up time preparing, and then turn it down. > **[Musk’s ‘Free’ Internet Offer to Hurricane Victims Requires $400 Hardware and...](https://www.mediaite.com/news/musks-free-internet-offer-to-hurricane-victims-requires-400-hardware-and-automatically-subscribes-users-to-120-per-month-plan/)** > > Elon Musk received criticism this week after it was discovered that his offer of "free" Starlink internet to victims of Hurricane Helene requires a hardware payment of $400 and automatically signs up claimants to a $120 per month plan. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/472 "2024-10-10T09:29:28Z")
The Starlink offer wouldn’t do much good anyway. It won’t help people without power, which is a lot of them. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/473 "2024-10-10T10:29:13Z")
Dammit, here’s the debate link. That’s what I get for jumping around on sites. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fox-news-proposes-dates-possible-second-trump-harris-debate-2024-10-09/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fox-news-proposes-dates-possible-second-trump-harris-debate-2024-10-09/) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/474 "2024-10-10T12:57:09Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > The Starlink offer wouldn’t do much good anyway. It won’t help people without power, which is a lot of them. FWIW a lot of folks in WNC have power but no Internet: the cable/phone lines run differently from the power lines in a lot of cases, and are serviced by different companies. I’ve heard from several folks taking the Starlink offer, but I don’t know if they’re aware of all the associated costs. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/475 "2024-10-10T16:37:22Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It won’t even be a matter of documented or not, it’ll be a matter of “brown”; native-born American citizens get deported too for being “immigrants” Trump threatened to deport legal immigrants in Springfield, after all. > **[Trump says he’d revoke legal status of Haitian migrants and deport them if...](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-haitians-tps-deport-springfield-ohio-rcna173841)** > > Trump claimed to be concerned about Springfield, Ohio, which has been inundated with violent threats as a result of racist lies he's perpetuated. This is a city that provided a home for refugees who needed it, and in turn has been revived by having workers they desperately needed to revitalize their manufacturing industry. It’s a beautiful example of a win-win, and it’s only a problem for racists, so of course Trump and his party are going to try to stop all of that. > **[Haitian immigrants helped revive a struggling Ohio town. Then neo-Nazis...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/14/neo-nazis-springfield-ohio-haitian-immigrants)** > > Springfield’s immigrant community was targeted by far-right extremists months before Trump shared racist rumors If you ever need to explain to anyone how dangerous Trump and the Republican Party are, just explain what happened in Springfield, and tell them that it’s just one example of what they are doing all over the country. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/476 "2024-10-10T20:35:19Z")
Here’s a gift link to an excellent (but lengthy) article in _The Atlantic_ by Tom Nichols comparing George Washington to Trump. > **[The Moment of Truth](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/11/george-washington-nightmare-donald-trump/679946/?gift=hzomlMR2dBLPzkPdeme4aNBnyLtLiWhj5nUKNsrx7bQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > The reelection of Donald Trump would mark the end of George Washington’s vision for the presidency—and the United States. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/477 "2024-10-11T03:52:44Z")
Trump on Truth Social regarding the 60 Minutes Harris interview “scandal”\*: > [@](#): > > A giant Fake News Scam by CBS & 60 Minutes. Her REAL ANSWER WAS CRAZY, OR DUMB, so they actually REPLACED it with another answer in order to save her or, at least, make her look better. A FAKE NEWS SCAM, which is totally illegal. TAKE AWAY THE CBS LICENSE. Election Interference. She is a Moron, and the Fake News Media wants to hide that fact. An UNPRECEDENTED SCANDAL!!! The Dems got them to do this and should be forced to concede the Election? WOW! > [@](#): > > 60 Minutes is a major part of the News Organization of CBS, which has just created the Greatest Fraud in Broadcast History. CBS should lose its license, and it should be bid out to the Highest Bidder, as should all other Broadcast Licenses, because they are just as corrupt as CBS — and maybe even WORSE! I think the networks need to stop trying to appease Trump and start being honest about who he is. Surely the CEOs realize that If he is elected, he will appoint someone to the FCC for the sole purpose of hurting them. “Licenses…should be bid out to the highest bidder”. I wonder who that would be? \*The “scandal” is that it _appears_ that Harris gave two different answers to two questions. > [@](#): > > Portions of the Harris interview ran Monday on the newsmagazine and on the Sunday morning political show “Face the Nation.” On two occasions, it depicted Harris giving different answers to questions posed by correspondent Bill Whitaker on the Biden administration’s efforts to stop the [war in the Mideast](https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-hezbollah-lebanon-anniversary-73916b17394f093f01ca5554cf26b528). Her full answer to the question was the two sentences put together — the first sentence used on “Face the Nation” and the second sentence on “60 Minutes.” There was some sloppy editing between the two shows but her answers were not changed in any way. [Trump’s complaints about ‘60 Minutes’ put a spotlight on editing at the nation’s top newsmagazine | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-trump-cbs-interview-edit-024c435a19fd37eee7a090ece76d925c) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/478 "2024-10-11T03:56:07Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I think the networks need to stop trying to appease Trump and start being honest about who he is. Surely the CEOs realize that If he is elected, he will appoint someone to the FCC for the sole purpose of hurting them. “Licenses…should be bid out to the highest bidder”. I wonder who that would be? Point of order: there is no “license” CBS requires or has that can be revoked. Broadcast licenses are held by individual TV stations, not the network, and their being granted or rescinded has fuck-all to do with the political bent of their news division. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/479 "2024-10-11T03:56:22Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I think the networks need to stop trying to appease Trump and start being honest about who he is. Surely the CEOs realize that If he is elected, he will appoint someone to the FCC for the sole purpose of hurting them. “Licenses…should be bid out to the highest bidder”. I wonder who that would be? Trump occasionally goes after Fox News when they’re not kissing his ass tenderly enough. I am constantly amazed that anyone is loyal to Trump given his propensity to throw his allies under the bus at the first sign of trouble or insult them or their families publically. But it’s even more amazing to me that any organization, like CBS or ABC, who has no love for Trump or any reason to treat him with respect seem so afraid of crossing him. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/480 "2024-10-11T04:04:59Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Broadcast licenses are held by individual TV stations, not the network, and their being granted or rescinded has fuck-all to do with the political bent of their news division. Gah. I should have known Trump was blathering there. Bad me. But there are myriad ways he could hurt them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=25)