# Donald Trump and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 3, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196 "2024-08-03T16:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/481 "2024-10-11T04:15:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Broadcast licenses are held by individual TV stations, not the network For what it’s worth, the existence of “[owned-and-operated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owned-and-operated_television_stations_in_the_United_States)” stations muddies the water a bit, as each of the big four US broadcast networks (CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox) actually own a handful of the stations in their networks (primarily in large cities). The rest of the affiliate stations in their networks are owned by other companies or individuals, and are independent entities from the parent networks. But, your main point isn’t affected by that: as you note, CBS does not “have a license.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/482 "2024-10-11T04:27:54Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Trump on Truth Social regarding the 60 Minutes Harris interview “scandal”\*: [Snip.] Wasn’t Trump offered the chance to go on the same show? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/483 "2024-10-11T04:28:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > … and their being granted or rescinded has fuck-all to do with the political bent of their news division. Under normal rules in a Democracy . Not in a pseudo fascist trump state. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/484 "2024-10-11T04:30:02Z")
Yes he was. But being a giant chicken-shit coward he refused. Because they might be mean. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/485 "2024-10-11T04:37:27Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Because they might be mean. And he still wants an apology from Lesley Stahl who interviewed him for the one in 2020 (the one where he stopped the interview and ran away in a tantrum). > [@](#): > > Pelley said that the Trump campaign “complained that we would fact-check the interview. We fact-check every story.” The Trump team also demanded an apology for his [interview during the 2020 campaign](https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/trump-posts-unedited-60-minutes-interview-before-it-airs/), where he claimed that correspondent Lesley Stahl said a laptop computer belonging to President Joe Biden’s son Hunter came from Russia. “She never said that,” Pelley said. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/486 "2024-10-11T05:02:59Z")
Isn’t this about the fifth or sixth “greatest fraud in history” that has happened to Donald Trump? Man, that is some terrible luck right there! I wouldn’t want to follow a guy like that around. No matter what happens to him, it’s pretty much guaranteed to be _the worst thing in history_! ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/487 "2024-10-11T05:12:00Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Yes he was. But being a giant chicken-shit coward he refused. Thanks. I thought so, but I wasn’t sure. > [@DWMarch](#): > > Isn’t this about the fifth or sixth “greatest fraud in history” that has happened to Donald Trump? “Nobody’s ever seen anything like it in the history or our country …” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/488 "2024-10-11T05:47:11Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > “Nobody’s ever seen anything like it in the history or our country …” And it’s happening at levels nobody’s ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![loriloolee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5fc32e/32.png) [@loriloolee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loriloolee)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/489 "2024-10-11T08:53:36Z")
“They know it, I know it, you know it, everybody knows it." ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/490 "2024-10-11T11:55:02Z")
I think that running anti-Trump ads on adult websites is a hilarious and clever idea. If it tips the balance, it will be even funnier. Though obviously women look at porn as well ( as much as men?). > **[That Sure Is One Way to Convince Young Men Not to Vote for Donald Trump](https://slate.com/life/2024/10/donald-trump-kamala-harris-election-project-2025-ad.html)** > > "Instead of seeing—you know—it's a picture of Donald Trump." ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/491 "2024-10-11T16:26:57Z")
Outstanding, frightening article. It’s a valuable reminder that our country was capable of producing flawed but great men, principled people with magnificent instincts. I agree wholeheartedly with the author that no president has fallen further from the political ideal Washington established than Trump, a vile would-be despot. And I likewise agree that we may well see the “would-be” evaporate should Trump be re-elected. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/492 "2024-10-11T18:36:04Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I think that running anti-Trump ads on adult websites is a hilarious and clever idea. If it tips the balance, it will be even funnier. Though obviously women look at porn as well ( as much as men?). Less; on average women prefer written porn\* over visual porn and men are the opposite. That said, there’s plenty of _written_ porn on adult websites. - And written works in general, reading fiction is much more popular among women than men. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/493 "2024-10-12T01:48:10Z")
NYT reports that a group of porn producers is also getting into the act. (Gift link.) > **[Porn Industry Jumps Into the Presidential Campaign, Targeting Project 2025](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/07/us/politics/porn-actors-project-2025-ad.html?ogrp=ctr&unlocked_article_code=1.Rk4.wwY1.5VzvkuOyziRH&smid=url-share)** > > In seven swing states, the industry’s websites will feature ads decrying the conservative policy blueprint’s proposed ban on pornography. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/494 "2024-10-12T02:22:04Z")
I read the Slate story. Wally Nowinski, the head of the PAC that’s running the campaign comes off as a genuine professional political campaigner, not someone from the adult entertainment industry. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/495 "2024-10-12T02:33:45Z")
I read it, too, and agree with you. The porn producers’ project is a separate effort with a similar goal. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/496 "2024-10-12T04:04:59Z")
How bat shit crazy does a candidate have to be to where he can tell a fantastical story like kids coming home from school having had a sex change, and it isn’t even remarked upon? He tells it in front of his crowd, and they don’t even bat an eye. How crazy does a story have to be until it’s obvious to even the dullest MAGAt what a brain dead guy they’re invested in? I don’t get it. HTF can this election even be close??? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/497 "2024-10-12T04:09:55Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > don’t get it. HTF can this election even be close??? It can’t be and it isn’t, but that headline doesn’t get ratings, which is why every presidential race every four years is THE CLOSEST RACE WE’VE EVER SEEN, THE COUNTRY HAS NEVER BEEN THIS EVENLY DIVIDED BEFORE. > ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/498 "2024-10-12T04:27:11Z")
I believe she’ll win the popular vote handily. It’s the damned EC that’s taking the fun out of it. I remember the period after the last election referred to as “The Great Unclenching”. This one will, God willing, be even greater. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/499 "2024-10-12T06:56:49Z")
Bob Woodward: Trump gave Putin covid testing machines for his personal use at the beginning of the pandemic Trump: Fake news, this is the biggest hoax in the history of everything Russia: Yeah, he gave us those > **[Kremlin confirms Trump sent Russia Covid-19 tests, after former president...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/11/europe/kremlin-confirms-trump-covid-tests-intl/index.html)** > > Russia has confirmed that Donald Trump sent the Kremlin sample Covid-19 tests in the early days of the pandemic, after revelations in veteran journalist Bob Woodward’s new book raised further questions about the former US... ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/500 "2024-10-12T12:24:08Z")
What, precisely, is Trump supposed to have sent to Putin and what evidence is there? How many/much? I keep seeing references to “tests” (as in the CNN story inked above) and “samples of test kits” (the Russian response) I also saw something on the boob tube referring to hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars worth of “Abbott machines” (Woodward). Calling them “kits” would leave the causal reader to think of the things you get at CVS. If they were expensive machines, why isn’t the media calling them that? Shouldn’t there be a government record somewhere with the exact items? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=26)