# Donald Trump and the runup to the 2024 election

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 3, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196 "2024-08-03T16:49:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/61 "2024-08-09T18:30:42Z")

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I am not at all a finance person, but his business history makes me hesitant that this would be beneficial.

> **[Trump says he should get a say on Federal Reserve interest rate decisions](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/08/trump-says-he-should-get-a-say-on-federal-reserve-interest-rate-decisions.html)**
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> The comments seem to reinforce reporting earlier this year that advisors close to Trump are looking at a host of changes for the Fed.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/62 "2024-08-09T21:12:27Z")

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That ain’t you buddy.

“I feel the president should have at least [a] say in there,” Trump said

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/63 "2024-08-09T21:48:18Z")

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Kansas City news just said Trumps plane had to make an emergency landing while flying to his Bozeman rally.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/64 "2024-08-09T21:51:29Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> Kansas City news just said Trumps plane had to make an emergency landing while flying to his Bozeman rally .

Yes – landed in Billings, MT. About 2 hours east of Bozeman.

> **[Trump's plane lands in Billings after reported mechanical issue](https://www.ktvh.com/news/trumps-plane-lands-in-billings-ahead-of-bozeman-rally)**
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> The plane of former president and Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has landed in Billings, Montana.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/65 "2024-08-09T22:02:03Z")

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Man, between the bullet to the ear and the mechanical problems with the airplane, the universe is doing absolutely everything it can to give this guy a nervous breakdown.

ETA: kudos to the universe.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/66 "2024-08-09T22:08:35Z")

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And, of course, I’m sure that his most strident MAGA supporters will be claiming that the Democrats had something to do with the mechanical issues in another failed attempt to eliminate him.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/67 "2024-08-10T01:35:42Z")

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Out of anybody on this planet that I would imagine you would not want to stiff on an invoice for services rendered, mechanic for your private jet has got to be right up top beside “Russian mobsters” and “discrete adult diaper service”.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/68 "2024-08-10T01:47:53Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Man, between the bullet to the ear and the mechanical problems with the airplane, the universe is doing absolutely everything it can to give this guy a nervous breakdown.

It is 33 years old. [For a billionaire, he has a crappy plane](https://english.elpais.com/usa/2024-07-08/for-a-billionaire-he-has-a-crappy-plane-why-does-donald-trump-have-such-an-old-private-jet.html).

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> We are talking about a Boeing 757-200, a relic of the happy 1990s, which the tycoon bought in 2010 with the money he earned from the NBC reality show _The Apprentice_ . At that time, the plane had been in service since 1991. It was dangerously close to the end of its useful life cycle and belonged to a line that Boeing had stopped making. Unlike modern jets, it did not have a computerized flight control system, but rather an ancient system of buttons and levers.

I thinks he prefers it to a modern corporate jet because it is physically large. Didn’t he once brag (incorrectly of course) that he had the biggest plane? I recall that but can’t find the link.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/69 "2024-08-10T02:24:02Z")

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This live feed of the Bozeman rally has been going for 1hr:40min as of this post and Donnie hasn’t showed up yet. Just a bunch of people waiting.  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG7NbwKZPKo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG7NbwKZPKo)

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/70 "2024-08-10T02:36:06Z")

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Did they not mention his plane troubles?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/71 "2024-08-10T02:47:26Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> This live feed of the Bozeman rally has been going for 1hr:40min as of this post and Donnie hasn’t showed up yet. Just a bunch of people waiting.  
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG7NbwKZPKo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG7NbwKZPKo)

Thanks for that. The video is not great, and the sound could be better, but the live comments are hilarious!

“Where’s Donny von Shitzenpantz?”  
“Weird and Creepy not here yet?”  
“Making dozens of people wait.”  
“Trump is wandering around the parking lot in his boxers.”  
“Make America Late Again.”

… and many more.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/72 "2024-08-10T03:15:41Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Did they not mention his plane troubles?

Currently at 2hr:30min in and two speakers just finished and not a word. I think the peeps are getting bored.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/73 "2024-08-10T03:18:53Z")

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I liked one comment: “Don For”.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/74 "2024-08-10T03:24:16Z")

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So no Dozeman in Bozeman?

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/75 "2024-08-10T03:34:46Z")

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He finally showed up.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/76 "2024-08-10T03:37:18Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> and the sound could be better

It’s even worse now that he’s up.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/77 "2024-08-10T03:54:39Z")

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Over in less than 20 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/78 "2024-08-10T03:57:08Z")

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Thankfully, NBC just cut the feed. In fairness, I think they had set aside a block of time for Trump, and he was late, and when the block of time ended, they cut him off. But don’t be surprised if he rails against NBC tomorrow, stating that the network cut him off before he was finished.

Among his remarks that I did hear was that for the past four years, it was Kamala directing Joe Biden. What happened to “Obama’s pulling Biden’s strings”? Regardless, I guess we’ll hear about this from Trumpists soon.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/79 "2024-08-10T04:18:31Z")

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While they were waiting for Trump, they kept the crowd pumped up with music from… wait for it…the Titanic soundtrack!

> **[Christian Ramirez (@cramirezcruz) on Threads](https://www.threads.net/@cramirezcruz/post/C-eZEjiI2t3/?xmt=AQGz_Vq4sHGLPwAgN37csDs4Iipduy9X0teAWqlTK_NS2w)**
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> They played a song from the Titanic movie. Who had that brilliant idea? 😂
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> Fitting though. Sinking ship and all.

Now that’s some epic trolling!

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/80 "2024-08-10T05:41:26Z")

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Remember Stephanie Grisham? For a time she was Trump’s WH Press Secretary. And her position on this campaign speaks volumes because it’s so similar to that of so many other Republicans fed up with Trump:

> … But in 2024, Grisham is among the conservatives who is supporting Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign. Grisham is part of the Republicans for Harris group along with former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Illinois), former New Jersey Gov. Christie Todd Whitman and others on the right.
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> … Grisham told the Post, “You can only be hit over the head so much and be told your own country sucks so much before you get fatigued by it. I think people yearn for a message of hope. Now that I’ve taken a step back and watch it more as a citizen, [the Trump campaign is] just sad and depressing to watch.”

Grisham also said that she’s making plans to get the hell out of the country if Trump wins, fearing retaliation.

And all that, to my mind, sums up the essence of the Trump campaign: a flailing directionless mess full of dystopian gloom, fascist ideology, and threats against its opponents.

> **[Ex-Trump White House official explains why his 2024 campaign is 'sad and...](https://www.alternet.org/grisham-trump-harris/)**
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> Conservative Republican Stephanie Grisham has a strong connection to Trump World. In addition to serving as the third of four White House press secretaries in the Trump Administration, Grisham was a press secretary for former First Lady Melania...

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