# Donald Trump and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 3, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196 "2024-08-03T16:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/121 "2024-08-13T21:24:48Z")
I don’t quite understand-didn’t _Trump_ make the remarks, not Musk? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/122 "2024-08-13T22:20:10Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@Atamasama](#): > > > > Here is Chris Christie with a short ad on YouTube admitting that he made a mistake in endorsing Donald Trump in the past. > > Good. But what’s motivating him to do this? Trying to stake a position in the event Trump crashes and burns? How soon we forget. He did run for president this year. His entire campaign was about how much Trump sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/123 "2024-08-13T22:22:29Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I don’t quite understand-didn’t _Trump_ make the remarks, not Musk? That’s apparently how the UAW lawyers drafted the complaint. I merely report. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/124 "2024-08-13T22:25:29Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > How soon we forget. He did run for president this year. His entire campaign was about how much Trump sucks. I recall that. But he’s not running for anything now. And I doubt many people are asking for his insight. I thought there might have been something specific that prompted this. Maybe sense of duty. Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/125 "2024-08-13T22:55:03Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > And I doubt many people are asking for his insight. I thought there might have been something specific that prompted this. Maybe sense of duty. Who knows. I guess just looking for some attention. Christie has absolutely no credibility. He worked for Trump in 2020 after he saw what a disaster he was. Even after he ended up in the ICU with covid because of it. He is just desperate to get some sort of relevance. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/126 "2024-08-13T23:07:24Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I guess just looking for some attention. That would be my guess. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/127 "2024-08-13T23:27:52Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > How soon we forget. He did run for president this year. His entire campaign was about how much Trump sucks. > > I recall that. But he’s not running for anything now. And I doubt many people are asking for his insight. I thought there might have been something specific that prompted this. Maybe sense of duty. Who knows. A feeling of hatred. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/128 "2024-08-14T00:08:05Z")
I actually do believe he hates Trump. Not for any noble reason, just personal hatred. Attorney General Christie would go after Trump like a pit bull (not that I think he should be given the job, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/129 "2024-08-14T00:23:45Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I actually do believe he hates Trump. Not for any noble reason, just personal hatred. Attorney General Christie would go after Trump like a pit bull (not that I think he should be given the job, of course.) I thought he did a good job as US attorney. As a governor what he did to my pension and healthcare is costing me thousands per year. So you can guess how I feel about him. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/130 "2024-08-14T06:07:55Z")
I lost track of what thread it was, but it was brought up that cheato never laughs. Well, he did in that sound-bite… …about mass firings of American Workers. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/131 "2024-08-14T09:34:42Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > A feeling of hatred. He’s from New Jersey. “Fuck you, that’s why” is a perfectly valid reason for anything. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/132 "2024-08-14T16:18:11Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I lost track of what thread it was, but it was brought up that cheato never laughs. He never laughs joyfully, as if he’s responding to something he finds funny. But he frequently laughs **at** people. He only seems to laugh only when it’s at someone’s expense; it’s something malicious. He doesn’t seem to have a genuine sense of humor of any kind. This is an observation that has come up in many threads on this board, and I’ve seen that opinion expressed in the media as well. > **[Why Donald Trump Can’t Laugh](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/mary-trump-why-donald-trump-never-laughs.html)** > > The Trump family taught Donald that vulnerability must be avoided at all costs. > **[James Comey says Donald Trump never laughs. Is he right? | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics/trump-comey-laughing/index.html)** > > Donald Trump doesn’t laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/133 "2024-08-14T16:25:29Z")
That was one of the points that an English writer, Nate Wright, made in a piece about Trump back in 2019, answering a question on Quora about why some British people do not like Trump: > [@](#): > > “So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. > > “But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. > **[Why do some British people not like Donald Trump? – An essay by Nate White](https://themountainnewswa.net/2019/02/17/why-do-some-british-people-not-like-donald-trump-an-essay-by-nate-white/)** > > Editor’s Note: The following is written by a British author named Nate White. His essay is published here with his kind permission. Initially, I received this piece from my ex in NY, who got it fro… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/134 "2024-08-14T22:29:05Z")
So what is Trump doing to try to turn the election contest back on his favor? > **[Trump Is Going All in on Weird, Lonely Young Dudes Who Hate Women](https://newrepublic.com/article/184697/trump-adin-ross-interview-weird-lonely-young-dudes-hate-women)** > > His interview with influencer Adin Ross earlier this week is part of a broader effort to answer Kamala Harris’s nomination with an unabashed courtship of too-online misogynists. I was made aware of this tactic from Ari Melber on MSNBC. And I recognized a number of the influencers that Trump is working with solely from videos I watch that conduct online scam investigations. These MAGA bros are criminals, no wonder they love Trump. Note that at least some of these appearances are on the platform “Kick”, because the influencers have been banned from more mainstream platforms like Twitch for spreading hatred and other conduct violations. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/135 "2024-08-14T22:45:24Z")
Democrats had the “Big tent,” GOP has the “Big Basket.” Gotta attract all the deplorable possible… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/136 "2024-08-15T14:15:57Z")
And a follow-up to Trump’s comment that Musk fires striking employees: > [@](#): > > On Wednesday, the union [UAW] said it planned to mobilise its one million active and retired workers to vote for Ms Harris. > > The move gives her campaign momentum in swing states such as Michigan, where UAW members accounted for 9.2% of the state’s votes for Mr Biden in 2020, the union said. > > “When we say Donald Trump is a scab, this is what we mean. When we say Trump stands against everything our union stands for, this is what we mean,” UAW President Shawn Fain said in a statement. > > President of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Sean O’Brien echoed those sentiments. Shoot your mouth off, say something that is the worst possible red flag to a group you’re trying to attract; good politics! I think that Trump has probably said that sort of thing before, but more likely in the clubhouse bar, having drinks with other business fat cats after a round of golf. Not when you’re campaigning for public office and need to woo union voters. > **[Trump touts economic plan in North Carolina](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8xlq0rg4yzo.amp)** > > In North Carolina, Trump spoke about the economy and took jabs at Democrats as the race for the White House tightens. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/137 "2024-08-15T15:42:54Z")
Didn’t Shawn Fain speak at the RNC? So those votes were there for Trump and they blew it? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/138 "2024-08-15T15:47:02Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Didn’t Shawn Fain speak at the RNC? No, he’s always been anti-trump. It was the Teamsters president at the RNC. Hopefully, Trump blew it with those guys. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/139 "2024-08-15T15:58:11Z")
Yes, it’s O’Brien of Teamsters who is saying that the union’s endorsement is up for grabs, that the Teamsters might endorse Trump. Given the record of the Teamsters, I would say its grift calling to grift. O’Brien’s been attracting a lot of criticism within the Teamsters and the union movement for his flirtation with Trump. However, O’Brien has been forced to condemn Trump’s latest comment, as mentioned in the article I quoted. Adding to the issue is that the National Black Caucus of the Teamsters has endorsed Harris. I would think that makes an endorsement for Trump from the union as a whole very problematic, opening up an ugly race-based crevasse within the Teamsters. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/140 "2024-08-15T16:09:35Z")
British non-profit journalism group does a sting of one of the main figures in Project 2025; gets him on camera for two hours discussing how they are planning to completely revamp the government if Trump wins. > **[In secretly recorded video, Project 2025 co-author says he’s drafted hundreds...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/russ-vought-project-2025-trump-secret-recording-invs/index.html)** > > Russell Vought, a co-author of Project 2025, was caught on a secretly recorded video saying that Trump’s denials of any connection with the conservative policy blueprint were politics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=8)