# Donald Trump and the runup to the 2024 election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 3, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196 "2024-08-03T16:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/141 "2024-08-15T16:22:54Z")
That’s cool, but isn’t that exactly what they’ve been saying they’ll do, publicly? Not sure why you need a “sting” to get someone to “confess” something that’s _right in the name_. It’s their friggin’ _raison d’etre_! ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/142 "2024-08-15T20:43:48Z")
Trump has been trying to deny he has anything to do with them. Of course that is a lie but his saying such, that Trump has been directly involved, working with them, may help convince some who might otherwise accept Trumps lies. May not of course. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/143 "2024-08-15T22:19:09Z")
Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/144 "2024-08-16T00:07:48Z")
[“The Daily Show”](https://youtu.be/rB-jvD0SgPY?si=F5jx3Y376k4wZYK3) had a story about Trump and Project 2025 just last night. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/145 "2024-08-16T00:49:18Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Trump has been trying to deny he has anything to do with them. Of course that is a lie but his saying such, that Trump has been directly involved, working with them, may help convince some who might otherwise accept Trumps lies. May not of course. Maybe he just forgot. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/146 "2024-08-16T01:11:12Z")
Covered in the thread actually about Project 2025: > [@Project 2025 is more than a playbook for Trumpism, it’s the Christian Nationalist manifesto](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/project-2025-is-more-than-a-playbook-for-trumpism-it-s-the-christian-nationalist-manifesto/998369/121): > > The Daily Show played some clips from some of their videos. Can we all agree this is a very weird bunch? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/147 "2024-08-16T02:40:54Z")
Article in Scientific American, bringing a psychology analysis to what the authors say is a cult of personality for Trump. I don’t know enough to judge it. > **[Trump’s Personality Cult Plays a Part in His Political Appeal](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-personality-cult-plays-a-part-in-his-political-appeal/)** > > Personality measures suggest Donald Trump exerts a cult of personality over his followers, people who are psychologically susceptible to his appeal. This could help explain how he has succeeded in U.S. politics while other populists have not ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/148 "2024-08-18T21:58:49Z")
Trump’s denial of a light crowd at his PA rally seems pretty unhinged: [![](https://i.imgur.com/eqPgDG5.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/eqPgDG5.png) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/149 "2024-08-19T05:42:54Z")
Rasmussen, which is known for its rightward skew and which Lyin’ Cryin’ Donald often holds up as proof that he’s “winning by a lot”, is showing alarmingly good numbers for Harris in battleground states. > **['Worst poll for Trump': Critics pounce after right-leaning survey shows close...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rasmussen-worst-poll-swing-states/)** > > Donald Trump frequently cites one particular polling organization, but on Sunday it released results revealing a tight race in numerous swing states. > > Trump often posts Rasmussen Reports polls, which AllSides media bias rating shows as "lean right,"... ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/150 "2024-08-21T20:45:30Z")
Okay, so there are reports/claims (not sure their origin, whether from anonymous sources or even Trump himself) that Trump has been in contact with Netenyahu to urge him to not accept any ceasefire until after the election. If this is confirmed, is this a big deal or not? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/151 "2024-08-21T20:50:45Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > … there are reports/claims (not sure their origin, whether from anonymous sources or even Trump himself) … How did you come to learn of them? EDIT: Never mind, this is starting to make mainstream news now: > **[Donald Trump accused of committing "massive crime" with reported phone call](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-accused-crime-benjamin-netanyahu-call-ceasefire-hamas-1942248)** > > Trump has been accused of calling the Israeli Prime Minister to discuss a possible ceasefire deal with Hamas. > **[Trump’s interactions with Israel’s Netanyahu draw fresh scrutiny](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-interactions-israels-netanyahu-draw-fresh-scrutiny-rcna167580)** > > Donald Trump’s interactions with foreign leaders have raised eyebrows, but it's his talks with Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu that are drawing fresh scrutiny. > **[Trump’s Latest Scheme to Beat Harris May Have Crossed Legal Lines](https://newrepublic.com/post/185076/donald-trump-scheme-beat-kamala-harris-benjamin-netanyahu-ceasefire)** > > Donald Trump is reportedly advising Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, which would be a violation of the Logan Act. Apparently, Axios broke this LAST WEEK, but it didn’t get legs until today. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/152 "2024-08-21T20:51:58Z")
News stories talking about it like [this one](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-accused-crime-benjamin-netanyahu-call-ceasefire-hamas-1942248). ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/153 "2024-08-21T20:53:10Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Okay, so there are reports/claims (not sure their origin, whether from anonymous sources or even Trump himself) that Trump has been in contact with Netenyahu to urge him to not accept any ceasefire until after the election. If this is confirmed, is this a big deal or not? It’s hard to say. Certainly anyone holding out on voting for Harris on account of her stance on Israel and Palestine should reconsider. It so hard to figure out if something is going to hurt Trump when his base doesn’t seem to care about any malfeasance on his part. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/154 "2024-08-21T20:56:06Z")
Right, but as the links above mention, there’s also breathless speculation of it being _criminal_, which I’m obviously skeptical would ever come to anything, but I was hoping to be wrong! ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/155 "2024-08-21T20:58:29Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > News stories talking about it like [this one](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-accused-crime-benjamin-netanyahu-call-ceasefire-hamas-1942248). Gotcha. They cite **[Axios’ anonymous sources](https://www.axios.com/2024/08/15/trump-netanyahu-gaza-hostage-ceasefire-deal-call)**. I’m not sure what to make of Axios – I’ve never really viewed them as 100% legit. Maybe 75% legit. Not _The Daily Mail_, but not BBC World Service, either. In any case, more established news services have apparently been working on corroboration in the meantime … and now feel comfortable enough to report. **[Reuters had it last week as well](https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-netanyahu-speak-about-gaza-hostage-ceasefire-deal-axios-reports-2024-08-15/)**. (I had completely forgotten that Netanyahu visited Mar A Lago when he was in the U.S. last month. Not that it was kept secret, but too little was made of it in the moment) ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/156 "2024-08-21T22:03:16Z")
If true, it would be a violation of the [Logan Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act), which “criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen.” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/157 "2024-08-22T02:37:19Z")
Yet more shades of 1968: [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461/](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461/) ## _When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election_ It took decades to unravel Nixon’s sabotage of Vietnam peace talks. Now, the full story can be told. Too bad we’ll be at least ten months behind on repeating Apollo 8: > **[Artemis II - NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/mission/artemis-ii/)** > > Four astronauts will fly around the Moon to test NASA's foundational human deep space exploration capabilities, the Space Launch System rocket and Orion spacecraft, for the first time with crew. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/158 "2024-08-22T21:42:03Z")
Trump on Truth Social today: > [@](#): > > For too long, the average American has been squeezed by the big banks and financial elites. It’s time we take a stand—together. [#BeDefiant](https://truthsocial.com/tags/BeDefiant) [https://t.me/defiant1s](https://links.truthsocial.com/link/113005603393272432) Trump’s come up with an economic plan! Nah, just kidding. It’s his new crypto scheme. [Trump promotes family’s new crypto platform, ‘The Defiant Ones’ (cnbc.com)](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/22/trump-crypto-defi-protocol-launch.html) > [@](#): > > Two of Trump’s sons, Eric Trump and and Donald Jr., have spent weeks teasing the forthcoming platform, which Eric recently described as “digital real estate.” From the “minds” of Eric and Jr. Always be grifting. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/159 "2024-08-22T23:49:23Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > From the “minds” of Eric and Jr. Always be grifting. And way late on this one. If they wanted some of that sweet, sweet crypto grift they should have been trying that about 4 or 5 years ago. On the other hand, I do know that Trump released those NFT cards, last year I think it was? Maybe MAGA does have some pennies still rattling around that the trumps can pickpocket them for. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196/160 "2024-08-22T23:59:20Z")
Don’t forget that in the attempt to appeal to incels and other angry young men, Trump has been partnering up with known crypto grifters and scammers. Logan Paul is one example. > **[Trump appears on YouTuber Logan Paul’s podcast in a bid for young voters](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/trump-logan-paul-podcast-interview-video-youtube-rcna157193)** > > Logan Paul, a controversial YouTuber and professional wrestler, hosted the former president on his popular podcast. Among other things, his CryptoZoo scam has gotten him in hot water. > **[Logan Paul SBF’d Up](https://www.vulture.com/2023/01/logan-paul-cryptozoo-scam-coffeezilla-allegations-explained.html)** > > The controversial YouTuber allegedly scammed millions out of fans with the game CryptoZoo while seemingly being scammed himself. And going back further, you have these guys: > **[Meet the YouTube Bros Who Might Help Trump Win in 2024](https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/nelk-trump-2024/)** > > The NELK boys are worshipped by millions of young men and are closely tied to the MAGA movement. Democrats should start paying attention. And they are known for NFT scams. > **[NELK boys accused of “NFT Scam” comparable to Cryptozoo scandal - Dexerto](https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/nelk-boys-accused-of-nft-scam-comparable-to-cryptozoo-scandal-2489604/)** > > Influencers the NELK Boys have been called out by YouTuber Spencer Cornelia for a “NFT scam” involving the group’s Nelk Metacard NFT. I could go on, but Trump has really found common ground with these folks, and I’m sure that he wants in on that action. And no, crypto grifting is not an artifact of the late 2010s. It’s still alive and well today. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-election/1005196.md?page=9)