# Donald Trump and the Sede Vacante

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [April 27, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565 "2025-04-27T15:10:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/21 "2025-04-28T12:35:19Z")

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It’s not beyond imagining that he’d post something dumb on social media complaining about the selection of a “woke” Pope, arguing that the cardinals should’ve picked someone who knew [how to run things with a firm hand](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/europe/catholic-church-most-controversial-popes/index.html), like Benedict IX.

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> A “[demon from hell’](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/benedict-ix-what-pope-benedict-xvi-shares-with-his-notorius-namesake_n_2769983.html)” and “[so vile, so foul, so execrable that I shudder to think of it](http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1981842_1981844_1981864,00.html)” are just a few of the kind words future saints and other popes have used to describe Pope Benedict IX.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/22 "2025-04-28T12:52:02Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I 100% believe Trump has the ego to say something like this but I doubt he has any interest in being Pope so he won’t.

Normally, yes. But this week, when everyone is talking about the Pope, Trump wants to be the Pope.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Also, even he has to realize he is so ineligible for the position that there is truly a zero chance it could happen

Never underestimate the things Trump doesn’t realize.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/23 "2025-04-28T12:56:11Z")

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Trump may envision himself winning the famed P3K; that’s where one person is President, Pope, Prime Minister, and King. It’s the political equivalent of an EGOT.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/24 "2025-04-28T15:24:53Z")

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What he actually said when asked why he attended the funeral…

> "I just thought it was out of respect, I won the Catholic vote and I think that’s the first time that ever happened for a Republican and I won that by a lot. I have a great relationship with the Catholics, very simple. But I won the Catholic vote, I got 56% of the vote, I don’t know why we didn’t get more actually, I don’t know how they got any.”

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/25 "2025-04-29T20:15:33Z")

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[Donald Trump Weighs in on Potential Choices for Next Pope](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-weighs-potential-choices-next-pope-2065821)

> Speaking to reporters ahead of his trip to Michigan, Trump was asked about the upcoming conclave process and whom he would like to see as the next pope.
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> “I’d like to be pope,” the president quipped. "That would be my number one choice.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/26 "2025-05-02T04:26:56Z")

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Well, I’m glad I waited two days before voting in the OP poll.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
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He’s obviously not been talking to his Baptist friends who would probably tell him Catholics aren’t true Christians.  
I believe one of the Medicis got himself elected Pope and brought his mistress along. So he would have some traditions to uphold.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/28 "2025-05-02T07:00:51Z")

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Perhaps he misheard about being celibate and thought “Sell a bit here, sell a bit there”.  
(© Lily Savage)

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/29 "2025-05-02T15:13:10Z")

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Oh, come on. At least use the entire quote.

> “I’d like to be pope,” the president quipped. "That would be my number one choice. No, I don’t know, I have no preference…I must say we have a cardinal [Timothy Dolan, who has been the archbishop of New York since 2009] that happens to be out of a place called New York who’s very good.
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> “So, we’ll see what happens.”

Timothy Dolan is scary enough for any Catholic who’s theologically to the left of the 19th Century. And I’m guessing he’s the only Cardinal who Trump can actually name.

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> And I’m guessing he’s the only Cardinal who Trump can actually name.

besides Stan Musial.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/31 "2025-05-02T17:51:07Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Oh, come on. At least use the entire quote.
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> > “I’d like to be pope,” the president quipped. "That would be my number one choice. No, I don’t know, I have no preference…I must say we have a cardinal [Timothy Dolan, who has been the archbishop of New York since 2009] that happens to be out of a place called New York who’s very good.
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> > “So, we’ll see what happens.”

Looks like **Mangetout** came closest to calling it, at least in spirit. And frankly pretty good for Trump, like, _“of course I’d choose myself if I could, but no, really, I know one guy who’d be good.”_ Better than I expected event though ideally he’d have said nothing.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/32 "2025-05-02T20:23:45Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Timothy Dolan is scary enough for any Catholic who’s theologically to the left of the 19th Century. And I’m guessing he’s the only Cardinal who Trump can actually name.

My guess would be Trump would prefer Raymond Leo Burke, the cardinal that advocated for Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi to be refused communion. He probably mentioned Dolan since he’s likely the most widely known American cardinal.

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/33 "2025-05-03T13:42:15Z")

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This is a real post from The White House official Xitter account today:

> <https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1918502592335724809>

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/34 "2025-05-03T14:06:13Z")

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While beneath the dignity of the office, that sort of shit is just some DOGE intern trolling liberals to get them mad. I can’t even muster much beyond a “meh” for something so obvious.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/35 "2025-05-03T14:09:38Z")

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There’s nothing stopping Trump from naming himself Pope, or better yet the Antipope like in the good old days.

He could declare Rome, New York the new seat of the Catholic church. Visiting cardinals would have to pay a tariff, thus balancing the budget and eliminating the need for taxes.

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/36 "2025-05-03T14:14:12Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> While beneath the dignity of the office, that sort of shit is just some DOGE intern trolling liberals to get them mad.

Looks like it was reposted from his personal “Truth” Social account. This is 100% Trump.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/37 "2025-05-03T14:16:49Z")

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Do I think it was posted from Trump’s account? Sure, of course. Do I think Trump was on some AI image gen bot running prompts? Nah, someone gave him an image to post to get people mad and talking about it.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/38 "2025-05-03T14:28:39Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Do I think Trump was on some AI image gen bot running prompts?

It was probably Barron.

> **[Donald Trump Asked Son Barron 'How'd You Do That?' When He Turned on a...](https://people.com/donald-trump-praises-barron-apitude-technology-turning-on-laptop-11701178)**
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> Barron Trump is studying business, interested in politics and has an 'unbelievable aptitude in technology,' according to Donald Trump, who told Fox News that he was impressed to learn his Gen Z son knew how to get back on a laptop after it was turned...

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> While beneath the dignity of the office, that sort of shit is just some DOGE intern trolling liberals to get them mad.

You don’t think that sort of image would rile up conservative Catholics? You know, the ones who actually have deep reverence for the office of the papacy?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-the-sede-vacante/1017565/40 "2025-05-03T14:33:03Z")

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Nah. Conservative Catholics spent the last bunch of years being mad about Pope Francis and voting for Trump.

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