# Donald Trump and Women: An Interesting Video

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 8, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896 "2016-10-08T00:31:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/81 "2016-10-09T13:00:46Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> Is anyone else troubled by the tone of the Rep’s who are now disavowing Trump? I mean, they’re saying stuff like “he’s degraded our wives, mothers, daughters”. Does that seem a tiny bit patronizing to anyone else? I guess it was ok to degrade that poor Miss Whatever-it-was that Donald called a fat pig, because she wasn’t anyone’s wife or mother? Or weren’t those Rep’s listening that day? Wierd.

To them, a woman can’t be her own person deserving of respect in her own right. They have to be defined in relation to some man so they can use the penumbra of his respect.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/82 "2016-10-09T13:40:18Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Hmmmm, let’s see now… Womanizer or Felon? I’ll take the womanizer, thank you very much.

I’m sure Trump’s committed felonies. But despite the rumors that Huma Abedin is really Hillary’s lesbian lover, there’s no evidence whatsoever that Hillary’s a womanizer.

But if it turned out she was, I’d vote for the womanizer. Definitely. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/83 "2016-10-09T13:59:37Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> Is anyone else troubled by the tone of the Rep’s who are now disavowing Trump? I mean, they’re saying stuff like “he’s degraded our wives, mothers, daughters”. Does that seem a tiny bit patronizing to anyone else? I guess it was ok to degrade that poor Miss Whatever-it-was that Donald called a fat pig, because she wasn’t anyone’s wife or mother? Or weren’t those Rep’s listening that day? Wierd.

You’re not wrong. My best explanation is that this was a cumulative response… one that had been building for a while… and that this event was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

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Also, I am not saying that Donald Trump is a camel. You cannot make me say that Donald Trump is a camel. The two are [Nothing](https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/front-face-arabian-camel-head-close-up-17687178.jpg) alike [at all](http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/donald-trump-a2a12f4d-6c26-4768-8900-d10d9257bfe7.jpg).

For one thing, one is a dity anti-social animal with a horrible temper who has been known to expel an obnoxious spittle when annoyed that may or may not spread disease.  
For another, only one of them could run for president.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/84 "2016-10-09T14:21:37Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> Is anyone else troubled by the tone of the Rep’s who are now disavowing Trump? I mean, they’re saying stuff like “he’s degraded our wives, mothers, daughters”. Does that seem a tiny bit patronizing to anyone else? I guess it was ok to degrade that poor Miss Whatever-it-was that Donald called a fat pig, because she wasn’t anyone’s wife or mother? Or weren’t those Rep’s listening that day? Wierd.

My loose guess also, judging by some of the stuff I’ve read online, is that a big difference is that it’s the Madonna/Whore thing. Alicia Machado is famous in part for showing off her body, therefore she’s a Whore and it doesn’t matter if people degrade her. Lots of “It’s her fault for putting herself out there” and “What did she expect she’d get?” type comments. Along the same continuum as Christy Mack getting assaulted being waved away.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/85 "2016-10-09T19:15:05Z")

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Does this mean that The Donald has been practicing at home?  
[https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14520447\_10154820010602985\_1704362436614569120\_n.jpg?oh=42f2ab0d73013c787c4e85edc39fd1f3&oe=5869B5B7](https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14520447_10154820010602985_1704362436614569120_n.jpg?oh=42f2ab0d73013c787c4e85edc39fd1f3&oe=5869B5B7)

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/86 "2016-10-09T19:35:36Z")

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To all the people (not necessarily just on this board, but in the general population) who are saying “This is just the way guys talk,” and stuff like that:

There’s an important aspect of this that I think you’re missing, and I’m surprised it’s not getting more attention.

If Trump had said something like “Boy, that woman is hot, I’d sure like to [do her, f\*\*\* her, lick her (p\*\*\*\*\*, b_ **s, q** r_\*dge).]” then you _might_ be justified in saying “Well, lots of men (and women) talk crudely in private about things they’d like to do sexually to other people, it’s not that big a deal.”

Then Trump supporters could say “That’s our Donald! LOL!” and everybody else could roll their eyes and go back to talking about the hundreds of other awful things he’s said and done.

But can’t we all agree there’s an important distinction between that kind of talk and saying “I can’t help myself!” and “I don’t even wait!” (You don’t even wait for what, Donald? _Consent?_)

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/87 "2016-10-09T19:52:19Z")

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> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> To all the people (not necessarily just on this board, but in the general population) who are saying “This is just the way guys talk,” and stuff like that:
> 
> There’s an important aspect of this that I think you’re missing, and I’m surprised it’s not getting more attention.
> 
> If Trump had said something like “Boy, that woman is hot, I’d sure like to [do her, f\*\*\* her, lick her (p\*\*\*\*\*, b_ **s, q** r_\*dge).]” then you _might_ be justified in saying “Well, lots of men (and women) talk crudely in private about things they’d like to do sexually to other people, it’s not that big a deal.”
> 
> Then Trump supporters could say “That’s our Donald! LOL!” and everybody else could roll their eyes and go back to talking about the hundreds of other awful things he’s said and done.
> 
> But can’t we all agree there’s an important distinction between that kind of talk and saying “I can’t help myself!” and “I don’t even wait!” (You don’t even wait for what, Donald? _Consent?_)

I see this point getting a lot of attention, and rightly so. What I also see is the remaining Trump supporters being deliberately obtuse about it.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/88 "2016-10-09T21:28:45Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Does this mean that The Donald has been practicing at home?  
> [https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14520447\_10154820010602985\_1704362436614569120\_n.jpg?oh=42f2ab0d73013c787c4e85edc39fd1f3&oe=5869B5B7](https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14520447_10154820010602985_1704362436614569120_n.jpg?oh=42f2ab0d73013c787c4e85edc39fd1f3&oe=5869B5B7)

Good grief, those women’s shoes look agonizingly painful to walk in.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/89 "2016-10-09T22:22:47Z")

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> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#):
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> Alicia Machado is famous in part for showing off her body, therefore she’s a Whore and it doesn’t matter if people degrade her. Lots of “It’s her fault for putting herself out there” and “What did she expect she’d get?” type comments.

I wonder if he realizes that that logic allows people to say the same things about Melania.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/90 "2016-10-09T23:42:15Z")

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Looks like Billy Bush might have lost his Today spot. He’ll be absent from Monday’s show, and apparently, he may not be back. Another Trump fatality.

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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/91 "2016-10-10T13:25:13Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I wonder if he realizes that that logic allows people to say the same things about Melania.

Why does anybody give a rat’s petootie about a bunch of gold-digging sluts?

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/92 "2016-10-10T13:32:53Z")

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/93 "2016-10-10T21:18:38Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I wonder if he realizes that that logic allows people to say the same things about Melania.

My impression of Trump is that he would be perfectly fine with people saying such things about Melania, because he considers it only on the impact it has on him. “Yeah, she’s a hot piece of ass, and I’m the man that’s got that hot piece of ass.” Likewise, more ickily, his daughter.

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**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/94 "2016-10-10T21:43:54Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> His fans are already defending him, saying Real Men talk like this all the time and besides Hillary defended a rapist and Kaine has no experience plus he’s named after the bad son in the Bible.

Oh so most men dont? It was the first thing I thought of. Some women must be awfully ignorant to this. I bet there are even Amish men in some respect that have talked this way.

I know not all men talk this way but I cant bet somewhere in their lives (again not all men) have spoke to their buddies this way

Who brought the audio recording to light?

What is on the video? I just heard about it this morning but I dont know what was on it…any quick synopsis please?

> [@kayT](#):
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> Is anyone else troubled by the tone of the Rep’s who are now disavowing Trump? I mean, they’re saying stuff like “he’s degraded our wives, mothers, daughters”.

What other sorts of things degrade the women in our lives? Would those things remain while Trump is not elected?

> [@asahi](#):
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> But let’s not delude ourselves: Donald Trump’s perversion aside, there is still the sentiment among many people that ‘their America’ is dying from the inside out.  
> .

Donald is a pervert?

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I’m sure Trump’s committed felonies. But despite the rumors that Huma Abedin is really Hillary’s lesbian lover, there’s no evidence whatsoever that Hillary’s a womanizer.
> 
> But if it turned out she was, I’d vote for the womanizer. Definitely. 🙂

How many politicians aren’t non convicted felons?

I’d like to know why it is that one week something bad comes out about one candidate and then it takes a week for something bad to come out about the other one??

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/95 "2016-10-10T23:23:00Z")

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Doubtless some men do talk like this. They’re disgusting creeps, too.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/96 "2016-10-11T00:50:24Z")

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> [@WildBlueYonder](#):
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> I bet there are even Amish men in some respect that have talked this way.

We have [evidence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2fkXt__lck). 😃

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/97 "2016-10-11T01:32:23Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> We have [evidence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2fkXt__lck). 😃

I thought you were going to link to [this](http://youtu.be/o07ecRzkLuM) (skip to 1:20).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/98 "2016-10-11T16:36:34Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Looks like Billy Bush might have lost his Today spot. He’ll be absent from Monday’s show, and apparently, he may not be back. Another Trump fatality.

Maybe President Clinton can ease the sting by offering him the ambassadorship to Outer Mongolia…

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/99 "2016-10-11T17:21:02Z")

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Sorry if this has been discussed, but who the hell are the 8% of Republicans for whom this video makes them view Trump [more favorably](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/politico-morning-consult-poll-229394).

“An even sharper partisan dynamic existed when voters were asked whether the video gave them a more favorable or less favorable impression of Trump. Among all voters, 61 percent said it made them feel either somewhat or much less favorable toward Trump, while 28 percent said it didn’t affect their view of Trump; 8 percent said it made them feel more favorably toward Trump.”

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-and-women-an-interesting-video/767896/100 "2016-10-11T17:48:32Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Sorry if this has been discussed, but who the hell are the 8% of Republicans for whom this video makes them view Trump [more favorably](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/politico-morning-consult-poll-229394).
> 
> “An even sharper partisan dynamic existed when voters were asked whether the video gave them a more favorable or less favorable impression of Trump. Among all voters, 61 percent said it made them feel either somewhat or much less favorable toward Trump, while 28 percent said it didn’t affect their view of Trump; 8 percent said it made them feel more favorably toward Trump.”

There are, of course, people who are already fully committed to Trump and think that saying they have become even more so is showing support for their candidate. And in every poll there are people who misunderstood the question, people giving random answers to get the poll over with, people who thought “5” meant more favorable and “1” meant less favorable (when it was really the other way around), and people just being smart asses.

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