# Donald Trump announces presidential run

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 16, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679 "2015-06-16T16:35:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/21 "2015-06-16T18:20:32Z")

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This is the exact same cheap shit stunt he pulled last time. All he’s looking for is buzz so his tv show won’t get cancelled.

He cannot run for pres if he has a tv show. And the people reporting on this know he’s just looking for publicity. They may even know the deal, for next season, has already been inked, and he actually \*can’t \* run!

They don’t care about that conflict of interest in reporting this news because they are shameless, and only care about ratings.

Y’all are soooooo easy!

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/22 "2015-06-16T18:27:59Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Trump barges in, squeezing out Santorum.

😃

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**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/23 "2015-06-16T18:28:26Z")

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What is it about today’s GOP that invites such a motley crew of basically performance artists into its presidential primaries? There just doesn’t seem to be any equivalent of this phenomenon on the Democratic side; not since Al Sharpton stopped running anyway…

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/24 "2015-06-16T18:33:58Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> When does he have to do a full disclosure?

He doesn’t have to ever do a full disclosure. Investments are reported in ranges. If you have $2M in stock ABC, it is reported as "between $1m and $5M. The highest range is “above $50M.” which could be $2B or $51M. We all know Trump is very wealthy, but we’ll never find out exactly how wealthy.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/25 "2015-06-16T18:47:17Z")

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I’m surprised he actually announced this time. One thing I do look forward to is someone who will speak his mind, for good and for ill. He’s certainly not of the “practiced candidate” strain, which should be refreshing. We’ll see.

Financially, he claims to have over $8 billion after debts. If so, he could self fund if he wanted to, and won’t have to go out hat in hand to the usual players and constituencies, telling them all what they want to hear.

I think there’s a _very_ slim chance he can get the nomination, and the only route to doing so would be to run a campaign the likes of which I don’t think we’ve ever seen. That alone would be a terrific thing to see. Everything is so friggin polled and practiced. I’m up for something different. In the same way I like the fact that Al Franken became a senator, even if he’s way to liberal for me.

Come on, Bernie! What a match-up that would be: Trump vs Sanders. Talk about your clear choices.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/26 "2015-06-16T18:48:53Z")

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> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> What makes you say that?

In 2012, during the brief period where he pretended to run, his favorability ratings were 1st or 2nd to Romney, depending upon the polls.

Also, a lot of Republicans throw their support behind whichever candidate agitates the Democrats the most. That’s why they loved Sarah Palin even though she was clearly an idiot and had no shot.

I’m not saying he’s got a chance of winning, just that he’s going to be a huge disruption. He’ll drop out soon enough, blaming the liberal media and Obama for…something.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/27 "2015-06-16T18:51:05Z")

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> [@Donald\_Rump](#):
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> What is it about today’s GOP that invites such a motley crew of basically performance artists into its presidential primaries? There just doesn’t seem to be any equivalent of this phenomenon on the Democratic side; not since Al Sharpton stopped running anyway…

Other than Trump, who do you mean. Most of them are not my cup of tea, but with the exception of Fiorina, aren’t they all congressmen or governors? Oh, I guess there’s Carson, but he’ll be out in the first round. If you’re including those. Chafee has got to be the biggest joke. It boggles the mine that he ever got elected to anything. Maybe his mind has been deteriorating. At least that would explain his move from Rep to Dem. 😉

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/28 "2015-06-16T18:54:06Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> In 2012, during the brief period where he pretended to run, his favorability ratings were 1st or 2nd to Romney, depending upon the polls.
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> Also, a lot of Republicans throw their support behind whichever candidate agitates the Democrats the most. That’s why they loved Sarah Palin even though she was clearly an idiot and had no shot.
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> I’m not saying he’s got a chance of winning, just that he’s going to be a huge disruption. He’ll drop out soon enough, blaming the liberal media and Obama for…something.

Assuming he gets the nomination, who do you think he’d pick as a running mate? I think he needs someone with political chops—and who he hasn’t lambasted? Walker? Cruz? Kasich? Someone not currently running?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/29 "2015-06-16T19:00:08Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> This is the exact same cheap shit stunt he pulled last time. All he’s looking for is buzz so his tv show won’t get cancelled.
> 
> He cannot run for pres if he has a tv show. And the people reporting on this know he’s just looking for publicity. They may even know the deal, for next season, has already been inked, and he actually \*can’t \* run!
> 
> They don’t care about that conflict of interest in reporting this news because they are shameless, and only care about ratings.
> 
> Y’all are soooooo easy!

I’m fairly sure he never actually said he’d run last time. He kept saying that he might, and how he’d be the greatest president ever if he did, and better than Obama who wouldn’t even show his birth certificate. But he never announced he’d run.

And there have already been stories about [how it might affect his TV show](http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/16/media/donald-trump-apprentice-nbc/):

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> NBC, the broadcaster of Trump’s reality show “Celebrity Apprentice,” immediately said it would monitor his candidacy and reconsider his role on the show.
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> “We will re-evaluate Trump’s role as host of ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ should it become necessary, as we are committed to this franchise,” the network said in a statement.

> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> He doesn’t have to ever do a full disclosure. Investments are reported in ranges. If you have $2M in stock ABC, it is reported as "between $1m and $5M. The highest range is “above $50M.” which could be $2B or $51M. We all know Trump is very wealthy, but we’ll never find out exactly how wealthy.

I looked and found [this article about disclosure](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-15/what-a-presidential-candidate-s-financial-disclosures-do-and-do-not-reveal). You’re right in that it is in ranges, but it sounds like it’s still more scrutiny than Trump would want on his finances. And here’s the official rules on disclosure timing:

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> Federal law requires presidential candidates to file disclosures within 30 days of announcing their candidacy, or on May 15, whichever is later. They can get two extensions of up to 45 days each, and the Federal Election Commission can take up to 30 days to release the filings. So it could be September before the candidates who declared first have to say anything publicly.

So I guess Trump could stay in until September and get a lot of airtime until then, but then decide to drop out and say how he’d better serve the country in other ways or something, and never actually disclose information publically.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/30 "2015-06-16T19:06:49Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Assuming he gets the nomination, who do you think he’d pick as a running mate? I think he needs someone with political chops—and who he hasn’t lambasted? Walker? Cruz? Kasich? Someone not currently running?

It’s too farfetched to even consider. Truthfully, I don’t even think he wants to be President. It’d be a big step down in lifestyle and a big step up in workload. Sure, he could still play golf, but the base course at Andrews Air Forse Base isn’t exactly close to Trump National courses. No more hanging with the Miss America contestants, either.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/31 "2015-06-16T19:10:51Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Trump barges in, squeezing out Santorum.

As each Republican candidate spoke at the debate, it became obvious that each had at least of bit of Santorum in them, and none of them could keep it in.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/32 "2015-06-16T19:17:44Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Financially, he claims to have over $8 billion after debts. If so, he could self fund if he wanted to, and won’t have to go out hat in hand to the usual players and constituencies, telling them all what they want to hear.

And hey- if his run fails, all he has to do is declare bankruptcy. Again.  
Trump 2016! We shall overcomb! If he doesn’t win, there will be hell toupee!

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/33 "2015-06-16T19:49:08Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> And hey- if his run fails, all he has to do is declare bankruptcy. Again.
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> Trump 2016! We shall overcomb! If he doesn’t win, there will be hell toupee!

Nice!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/34 "2015-06-16T19:57:54Z")

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This is a major plus for the Santorum campaign. With Cruz, Carson, Fiorina, Paul, and now Trump in the race, he’s dropped off the “Five Least Credible Republican Candidates” list.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/35 "2015-06-16T20:01:59Z")

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Here’s what I thought while reading your post:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Huh–awesome.

> [@](#):
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> Ha hahahahahahahahaha!

You’re done with that schtick!

> [@](#):
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> Ohhhhhhhhhmygodican’tbreathe!

You’ve finally realized how annoying it is and just tell us that you’re laughing!

> [@](#):
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> He HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thank you!

> [@](#):
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> Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there!

GODDAMMIT!

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/36 "2015-06-16T20:29:06Z")

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Palin — Trump 2016 !

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/37 "2015-06-16T20:33:21Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Palin — Trump 2016 !

That’s the Democratic dream ticket, though Trump-Carson would also be good.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/38 "2015-06-16T20:38:03Z")

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Or, IOW, “The Donald pulls cheap, shameless publicity stunt yet again”. It’s astounding that any media anywhere, outside of SNL and the Daily Show, considers this in any way “news”.

Republicans should really be asking themselves why it’s always their party that attracts this sort of circus sideshow.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/39 "2015-06-16T20:42:01Z")

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He knows he not electable. He’s just there to pull the political discussion further to the right.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/40 "2015-06-16T20:47:35Z")

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> [@The Great Sun Jester](#):
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> He knows he not electable. He’s just there to pull the political discussion further to the right.

He’s no more capable of pulling the political discussion _anywhere_ than that dead weasel he wears on his head. I think it’s naive to think that he has any motivation that doesn’t have the words “Donald Trump” in it.

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