# Donald Trump announces presidential run

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 16, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679 "2015-06-16T16:35:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/101 "2015-06-19T14:42:52Z")

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An 2014 article from Buzzfeed :

> **[36 Hours On The Fake Campaign Trail With Donald Trump](https://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/36-hours-on-the-fake-campaign-trail-with-donald-trump#.ijo2WgGze)**
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> Over the course of 25 years, he's repeatedly toyed with the idea of running for president and now, maybe, governor of New York. With all but his closest apostles finally tired of the charade, even the Donald himself has to ask, what's the point? On...

A well written, candid look at the guy, leaves you wondering at the complicated mess of ego, insecurity, savvy, and the weird consequences of living in a bubble, surrounded by sycophants. I almost felt sorry for him.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/102 "2015-06-19T14:58:56Z")

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It would be a requirement that he put his business and investments into a blind trust.

But we all know that will never happen. He’s never been a serious candidate and the chances of him actually being elected are zero. Not “close to zero”, actual zero.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/103 "2015-06-19T16:54:31Z")

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Trump reminds me of Huang Qiaoling, the Chinese billionaire who’s built a replica of the White House and has his subordinates address him as Mr President. These guys have no desire (or ability) to actually do the work of being President; they just enjoy the trappings of the office. The main difference is that Trump, unlike Huang, is technically eligible to run for President of the United States so he can role-play at a higher level. (Conversely, you could argue that Huang is a lot richer than Trump and therefore can afford a better set of toys. Huang was able to skip running for President. He just built a White House and moved in.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/104 "2015-06-19T19:17:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Well, it’s true that Krauthammer does nothing but sit there and be a jerk, but it’s unfair to pick on him for the “sitting there” part.  
> It depends which McDonalds sign he drives by on the way to the venue.

Good point. So long as he’s worth at least $2 billion, he could say “billions and billions,” just like the Mickey Dee signs, and actually be correct.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/105 "2015-06-19T20:09:19Z")

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I for one would like to see a reporter ask him how he intended to force Mexico to pay for a wall that we would build along our border.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/106 "2015-06-20T03:14:39Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> He’s Hillary’s early Christmas present. Just wait till the debates. He’s going to suck all the oxygen from the room. The only sound bites you’re going to remember will be his. The highlights that get repeated for three days will be him bashing his fellow Republicans. I can’t wait for the first one, even though it’s on Fox.

Could be secretly be a Democrat?

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/107 "2015-06-20T03:55:00Z")

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Anyone read [this](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419853/witless-ape-rides-escalator-kevin-d-williamson) in the National Review?

Holy cow, that was scathing.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/108 "2015-06-20T04:27:33Z")

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> [@Savannah](#):
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> Anyone read [this](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419853/witless-ape-rides-escalator-kevin-d-williamson) in the National Review?
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> Holy cow, that was scathing.

Just the title: _Witless Ape Rides Escalator_ – I can’t believe I read that in the National Review, let alone the rest of the article.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/109 "2015-06-20T05:14:28Z")

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Business Insider: [There’s something odd about Donald Trump’s Facebook page](http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-facebook-followers-2015-6#ixzz3dZmj8nys)

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> What Trump does have is a large fan base in countries that researchers have deemed hubs for Facebook fraud. Specifically, they are home to “like farms” — services through which companies or individuals can buy Facebook likes using zombie accounts run by people who may be paid as little as $120 a year.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/110 "2015-06-20T13:50:55Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Trump goes after Charles Krauthammer with [wheelchair jab](http://www.salon.com/2015/06/17/not_classy_donald_trump_calls_fox_news_critic_in_wheelchair_a_loser_who_just_sits_there/).
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> The Donald may find himself not invited back to Fox. At any rate, a conundrum for those good folks - who do they support in this kerfuffle?

To be fair to Trump, I don’t think that’s a wheelchair jab, because he’s saying the same thing about non-quadraplegic George Will.I think when he was saying “they sit there and and haven’t done anything…”, he means, “I’m supersucessful Donald Trump. I’ve written the best book ever, I have a lot of money, I have the biggest tv show on TV, and they haven’t done anything but criticize.”

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/111 "2015-06-20T14:54:16Z")

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A Facebook friend just re-posted a quote from Trump’s FB page about how terrible Obamacare is. It was an incoherent, cherry-picking mess of a quote, even less connected to reality than the usual GOP anti-Obamacare rants. Yet my friend forwarded it, and other people clicked the like button. The Hairpiece is going to get votes in the primaries, lots of them, more than enough to justify keeping his campaign going as long as he wants. Which may only be until he has to make financial disclosures - but with the FEC so toothless, that could be a long time.

ETA: That same FB friend of mine also just re-posted a petition to get SC to take down the Confederate flag. People are complicated. 😃

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/112 "2015-06-20T16:49:52Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> Just the title: _Witless Ape Rides Escalator_ – I can’t believe I read that in the National Review, let alone the rest of the article.

From the article:

“The problem with messiah complexes is that there’s no way to know whether you are going to rise on the third day unless somebody crucifies you. Trump has announced, and I say we get started on that.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/113 "2015-06-20T16:57:46Z")

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Love it, love it, love it!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/114 "2015-06-20T17:04:20Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> From the article:
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> “The problem with messiah complexes is that there’s no way to know whether you are going to rise on the third day unless somebody crucifies you. Trump has announced, and I say we get started on that.”

This writer is certainly sharpening the nails.

The picture’s becoming much clearer now. The establishment Republicans want to bust Trump out of the race ASAP, before he does too much damage to the others in the clown car. He’s more likely to do damage to them than to Hilary or any other Democrat.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/115 "2015-06-20T18:33:19Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> There’s some solid questions as to whether or not he’s even a Billionaire once you count his debts. “Fuckface Von Clownstick” greatly inflates the imaginary “brand value” of his name and includes that in his estimates of his net worth. No one in the real world is going to tell you that this is real wealth.
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> There’s a precisely ZERO chance that he sticks around long enough to do a full disclosure.

One more than one occasion, he has either threatened to file a lawsuit, or has actually filed, different media outlets because they under-reported his net worth by calling a millionaire instead of billionaire.

Every time I think of Donald Trump, [this _Colbert Report_ clip](http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/zu0ju2/difference-makers---donald-trump) comes to mind.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/116 "2015-06-20T20:03:19Z")

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Understand something:

Trump. Is. NOT. Running.

He can give speeches all he wants, but he hasn’t filed with the FEC as a candidate for President, and he isn’t going to.

As he always does, he’s going to milk this for a lot of publicity, and then drop out. He has no constituency, and he knows it. He doesn’t want to be President- he doesn’t even want to campaign. He just likes attention, positive OR negative.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/117 "2015-06-20T20:18:19Z")

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Well, the longer he stays “in,” the more damage he does to the Republican side of _anything_, so here’s hoping he’s “in” for quite a while.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/118 "2015-06-20T21:30:42Z")

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Total promo for his show. So transparent.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/119 "2015-06-21T20:08:59Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> You may be onto something. Footwear News (it’s real) has reported that “shoe designer Ivanka Trump” [has thrown her support behind Donald Trump](http://footwearnews.com/2015/business/entrepreneurs/ivanka-trump-support-donald-trump-run-for-president-37011/).
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> …
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> She will turn 35 on October 30, 2016, so she will be just barely old enough to run.

And yet too old to continue being a Mrs Trump.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-announces-presidential-run/722679/120 "2015-06-21T21:20:57Z")

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I suggest that you look her up. Then you’ll understand why so many of us are going “EEEWWWWW!” right now.

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