# Donald Trump gets hero's welcome at Army/Navy football game. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463 "2016-12-11T19:39:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pleks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@pleks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pleks)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/1 "2016-12-11T19:39:26Z")
Our troops just love the winner. > **['Total respect!' Troops show their love for Trump at Army-Navy game; check...](https://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/12/11/total-respect-troops-show-love-trump-army-navy-game-check-video-photos-422526/)** > > It was such a great day, even Michael Moore had to admit the obvious! Meanwhile, Rolling Stone magazine (notable for having been recently found guilty of defamation and ordered to pay $3 million in damages to the victim of its fake news story about rape on University of Virginia campus) reports that Trumps’ presidency is shaping up to be American tragedy. > **[Trump's Presidency Is Shaping Up to Be an American Tragedy](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trumps-presidency-is-shaping-up-to-be-an-american-tragedy-118700/)** > > His administration is likely to be just as bad as you think – and possibly worse ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/2 "2016-12-11T19:55:20Z")
> [@pleks](#): > > Our troops just love the winner. > ['Total respect!' Troops show their love for Trump at Army-Navy game; check out the video, photos](http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/12/11/total-respect-troops-show-love-trump-army-navy-game-check-video-photos-422526) > > Meanwhile, Rolling Stone magazine (notable for having been recently found guilty of defamation and ordered to pay $3 million in damages to the victim of its fake news story about rape on University of Virginia campus) reports that Trumps’ presidency is shaping up to be American tragedy. > > [Trump's Presidency Is Shaping Up to Be an American Tragedy](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/trumps-presidency-is-shaping-up-to-be-an-american-tragedy-w454640) I fail to understand how the military supports him. He demonstrated his disdain for POWs. He tried to keep the money from a fundraiser. He was gifted a Purple Heart and was pleased he didn’t need to earn it. He compared his sleeping with lots of women and having financial success with serving in Vietnam. He called the military weak. He expects the military to commit war crimes on his orders. ETA: His treatment of the Khan family. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/3 "2016-12-11T19:57:50Z")
> [@pleks](#): > > Our troops just love the winner. > ['Total respect!' Troops show their love for Trump at Army-Navy game; check out the video, photos](http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/12/11/total-respect-troops-show-love-trump-army-navy-game-check-video-photos-422526) > > Meanwhile, Rolling Stone magazine (notable for having been recently found guilty of defamation and ordered to pay $3 million in damages to the victim of its fake news story about rape on University of Virginia campus) reports that Trumps’ presidency is shaping up to be American tragedy. > > [Trump's Presidency Is Shaping Up to Be an American Tragedy](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/trumps-presidency-is-shaping-up-to-be-an-american-tragedy-w454640) Well, for starters the Rolling Stones does link first to what The Hill is reporting about the one that is putting ideas into the brain of Trump, no record of that source being involved in a defamation lawsuit: [http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/293532-bannons-ex-wife-he-didnt-want-the-girls-going-to-school](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/293532-bannons-ex-wife-he-didnt-want-the-girls-going-to-school) > [@](#): > > Bannon’s ex-wife: ‘He didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews’ > > Donald Trump campaign CEO Steve Bannon’s ex-wife said in divorce proceedings that he didn’t want their daughters to attend a Los Angeles school because of “the number of Jews.” > > The former Brietbart News executive’s ex-wife signed a court document in 2007, the New York Daily News reported, that Bannon was concerned about the effect Jewish students at the Archer School for Girls would have on their twins. > > “The biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend,” read the woman’s June 2007 statement. > > “He said that he doesn’t like the way they raise their kids to be ‘whiny brats’ and that he didn’t want the girls going to school with Jews.” Of course the Rolling Stone article does cite many other sources so you are indeed using the poisoned well fallacy as a debate tactic. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/4 "2016-12-11T20:05:14Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I fail to understand how the military supports him. > > He demonstrated his disdain for POWs. > > He tried to keep the money from a fundraiser. > > He was gifted a Purple Heart and was pleased he didn’t need to earn it. > > He compared his sleeping with lots of women and having financial success with serving in Vietnam. > > He called the military weak. > > He expects the military to commit war crimes on his orders. > > ETA: His treatment of the Khan family. Those are theoretical reasons why military folks might not support him, not [actual data](http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/data-points/poll-trump-leads-clinton-among-military-veteran-voters-n643501) about how many did. You know that, right? No wonder the Democrats are still wondering why they lost. Why bother with data when you already know the answer… ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/5 "2016-12-11T20:16:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Those are theoretical reasons why military folks might not support him, not [actual data](http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/data-points/poll-trump-leads-clinton-among-military-veteran-voters-n643501) about how many did. You know that, right? > > No wonder the Democrats are still wondering why they lost. Why bother with data when you already know the answer… I think what he was getting at was that it’s absolutely insane for anyone in the military to support someone with such a cavalier attitude towards the sacrifices they make. Which it is. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/6 "2016-12-11T20:25:54Z")
December 2016 join date, folks. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/7 "2016-12-11T20:26:38Z")
And now we have another solid, respectable and unbiased source for news, _Bizpac Review_. And the author of the article has such an impressive resume: > [@](#): > > …Scott’s commentary can also be found on TheBlaze, WND, Breitbart… Can’t wait to read such truthiness as “Sharp YouTube videos demolish progressive ideology, and the left isn’t happy!” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/8 "2016-12-11T20:28:20Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I think what he was getting at was that it’s absolutely insane for anyone in the military to support someone with such a cavalier attitude towards the sacrifices they make. Which it is. Yes, I know he thinks that. But note that he said “how” not “why”. The OP was showing an example of “how”, so that was a strange retort. > [@Chefguy](#): > > December 2016 join date, folks. Yep! He doesn’t realize that his two statements are NOT mutually exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/9 "2016-12-11T20:29:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I fail to understand how the military supports him. > > … They were told to. He’s their boss. They have no choice. I can pretty much guaranty you that each of them was think something involving “lying, asshole, mutant life form” as they “supported” him. I honestly think the entire US should refrain from standing for the National Anthem while he’s POTUS. I think the shit fest that followed on twitter would be hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/10 "2016-12-11T20:32:33Z")
It’s insane for absolutely anyone to support Trump, we don’t have to pick out specific groups when it comes to him. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/11 "2016-12-11T20:35:35Z")
Ahem… > [@](#): > > Sept 7, 2016 > > Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 19 points — 55 percent to 36 percent — among voters who are currently serving or have previously served in the U.S. military, according to the latest NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/12 "2016-12-11T20:43:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Ahem… I never said they didn’t, I said I don’t understand the support. He showed utter contempt for what the military stands for and it’s personnel. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/13 "2016-12-11T20:44:00Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I can pretty much guaranty you that each of them was think something involving “lying, asshole, mutant life form” as they “supported” him. I can pretty much guarantee you that you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/14 "2016-12-11T21:42:21Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I never said they didn’t, I said I don’t understand the support. OK. I don’t think the way I read your post was particularly unusual, but I can see that it needn’t be read that way. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/15 "2016-12-11T21:50:32Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I never said they didn’t, I said I don’t understand the support. > > He showed utter contempt for what the military stands for and it’s personnel. He showed utter contempt for all his voters. He just has that gift of telling _you_ that he doesn’t have contempt for _you_, just those other idiots to your left and to your right. While I agree it doesn’t make any sense, this is in fact the world we live in now. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/16 "2016-12-11T22:02:42Z")
> [@bizpac's About page](#): > > Based in Palm Beach County, BizPac Review is a privately held, for-profit news and opinion website covering news that matters to conservatives throughout Florida and the United States. Actually, I’m going to report this as advertising. There’s nothing wrong with being right-wing per se but a new poster with a new link? It’s damn suspicious to me. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/17 "2016-12-11T22:04:04Z")
So the military leans Republican. Big whoop. Why are their opinions worth any more than teachers or nurses? Answer: they aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/18 "2016-12-11T22:27:24Z")
Rant? Gloating? I can’t tell what the topic is but it’s not Elections. Moving to Pit. [/ moderating] ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/19 "2016-12-11T22:35:28Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > So the military leans Republican. Big whoop. Why are their opinions worth any more than teachers or nurses? Answer: they aren’t. I honestly don’t know why we worship veterans so much and I don’t think their opinions should be more valued than others in society. As to why they can support him so? The majority of the military is the same demographic as other poor people who vote Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463/20 "2016-12-11T23:00:58Z")
Yep, it’s time not to feed this idiot troll. Instead, let’s start a ban countdown. I pick December 20th. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-gets-heros-welcome-at-army-navy-football-game/774463.md?page=2)