# Donald Trump is going to win in 2020, are you happy about it?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 28, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098 "2020-01-28T04:56:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098/81 "2020-01-31T16:34:29Z")

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What with the anti-Hillary sentiment and the lack of experience with Trump, I can understand how the undemocratic Electoral College system would let a minority candidate slip into the presidency. However, after 4 years of seeing and hearing this man and seeing first hand his total lack of honesty and character, there are no excuses for 2020. If this man wins again, then it will reflect on what can only be described as a total lack of national character. The world awaits.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098/82 "2020-01-31T16:46:37Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Sure he’s a racist. Sure he’s a misogynist.

Female unemployment is the lowest it has been in several decades. Black unemployment is the lowest on record. Hispanic unemployment is the lowest on record.

If he wants to hurt women and minorities, he’s doing it wrong.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098/83 "2020-01-31T17:02:04Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> If he wants to hurt women and minorities, he’s doing it wrong.

Point. I think he’s a sociopath who just treats everyone equally. To label him is to limit one’s understanding of him.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098/84 "2020-01-31T18:36:02Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What has Trump done to prevent abortions?

A president is limited in what he can do for or against abortion - most of that is at the judicial level - but he has appointed lots of conservative federal judges. Which is - really - about as much as he can do.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> And I don’t believe that most of these folks actually think 1 million babies are murdered annually. If they really believed this, and they’re not pathetic excuses for human beings, they’d be doing a lot more than just supporting pro-life politicians and attending pro-life rallies.

I agree - as I’ve said before on multiple occasions, if people truly believed abortion to be murder, they’d be ransacking clinics, shooting abortionists, carrying out widespread picketing and violence. But - in terms of **intellectual soothing** - a pro-life Trump voter can mentally excuse virtually all of Trump’s flaws by saying, “The Democrats endorse the murder of 1 million babies a year.” With that sort of argument, you get peace of mind on virtually everything. Virtually nothing Trump does - locking kids in cages, rage-tweeting on Twitter, betraying allies, etc. - compares to the murder of a million babies. On the mental scale of good and evil, the million murdered babies simply carry so much mental weight that they outweigh anything Trump does. So they can vote for Trump with a clear conscience.

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**Author:** ![sambucus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sambucus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sambucus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098/85 "2020-01-31T22:21:02Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> Female unemployment is the lowest it has been in several decades. Black unemployment is the lowest on record. Hispanic unemployment is the lowest on record.
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> If he wants to hurt women and minorities, he’s doing it wrong.

A function of the overall Obama economy that started in 2008. And the unemployment figures, while low, are not record lows. And income disparity has worsened (A lot of those jobs are at Wal-Mart)

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**Author:** ![sambucus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sambucus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sambucus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098/86 "2020-01-31T22:22:52Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> IMHO, the bigger thing we should be focusing on is that he’s moron that doesn’t care about anyone but himself.
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> Sure he’s a crook. Sure he’s a racist. Sure he’s a misogynist.
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> But he’s a moron that refuses to learn. Well, he can’t. It’s his nature. Because he already knows everything about everything.
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> And he has been given the keys to the kingdom.

I have been working in the construction industry in NYC on and off for 20 years. He was a crook then. Those stories about him not paying subs are absolutely true. And his first project (Grand Central Hyatt) was a con job as well, built on lies.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-going-to-win-in-2020-are-you-happy-about-it/847098/87 "2020-01-31T22:49:29Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I agree - as I’ve said before on multiple occasions, if people truly believed abortion to be murder, they’d be ransacking clinics, shooting abortionists, carrying out widespread picketing and violence.

Yep. Nobody who is not currently in prison believes that abortion is murder.

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