# Donald Trump is now a birther **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044 "2011-03-17T17:38:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/1 "2011-03-17T17:38:57Z")
He must be wanting that presidential nomination pretty bad. Anyway here’s the story: > **[Gawker | The Website](https://gawker.com/)** > > Gawker. It's a website on the internet. > [@](#): > > Let me tell you, I’m a really smart guy. I was a really good student at the best school in the country. The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him," Trump said in the interview that aired Thursday. > > "If I got the nomination, if I decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten. I wonder if he’ll bankrupt the country like he did his corporate empire. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/2 "2011-03-17T17:44:00Z")
Just because you’re smart in kindergarten doesn’t mean you’re a smart adult. It just means you can tie your shoes and wipe your own ass. Granted those are qualities I’d want in a president but I’d also want much more than that. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/3 "2011-03-17T17:47:47Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > … It just means you can tie your shoes and wipe your own ass. … If you’re Donald Trump, you can hire someone else to do that for you 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/4 "2011-03-17T17:56:36Z")
“He grew up and nobody knew him.” Really? Seriously? This can only mean one thing: Donald Trump is even more of a cynical opportunist than everybody already thought he was. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/5 "2011-03-17T17:57:57Z")
Meh… sounds to me like he’s not a birther, he just doesn’t want to alienate people who are. I wouldn’t call him a birther unless he started yammering for whatever the long form birth certificate and demanding that he resign or be impeached or whatever it is they want. So, sure, he’s pandering to some idiots, but every politician has to do it to some extent and it doesn’t seem any worse than countless other examples to me. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/6 "2011-03-17T17:58:12Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Just because you’re smart in kindergarten doesn’t mean you’re a smart adult. It just means you can tie your shoes and wipe your own ass. Granted those are qualities I’d want in a president but I’d also want much more than that. I don’t think that’s Trump’s line of reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/7 "2011-03-17T18:09:57Z")
Y’know, what’s offensive to me about his comments is the silver-spoon presumption he has that because he was born to wealth and society that people know him. Whereas if one were not born to wealth and privilege, then one is somehow not known. He isn’t even aware that is what he is saying. His head is so far up his ass that it makes his hair look funny. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/8 "2011-03-17T18:17:18Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > His head is so far up his ass that it makes his hair look funny. Ohh, is _that_ what it is? I thought it was just a shitty toupee. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/9 "2011-03-17T18:21:50Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I don’t think that’s Trump’s line of reasoning. I don’t think he can reason. That furry brain slug is controlling him. Of course it wants him to be president. It wants to take over the world! It wants us all to be sporting our own furry brain slugs! Don’t fall for it! ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/10 "2011-03-17T18:23:57Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Ohh, is _that_ what it is? I thought it was just a shitty toupee. Well, yeah. It is… ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/11 "2011-03-17T18:50:31Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Well, yeah. It is… I don’t know what the hell it is, but I’d like to see its papers. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/12 "2011-03-17T19:00:35Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > Y’know, what’s offensive to me about his comments is the silver-spoon presumption he has that because he was born to wealth and society that people know him. Whereas if one were not born to wealth and privilege, then one is somehow not known. He isn’t even aware that is what he is saying. > > His head is so far up his ass that it makes his hair look funny. I love that he goes out of his way to point out that “I was a really good student at the best school in the country.” ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/13 "2011-03-17T19:36:28Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > I love that he goes out of his way to point out that “I was a really good student at the best school in the country.” I just looked up Donald Trump’s educational background. He did his undergrad at Fordham University and his MBA at UPenn. While those are certainly excellent universities, that he refers to having gone to the best school in the country, with no qualifiers, is a bit…odd. When thinking of “the best school in the country”, Fordham doesn’t _immediately_ spring to mind. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/14 "2011-03-17T19:47:27Z")
I’m pretty sure that if you interviewed every member of my kindergarten class, all or most of them wouldn’t be able to attest that I was in their class. Hell, I barely remember kindergarten at all; I don’t even remember my teacher’s name, let alone those of other students (I did have a couple of neighbor kids my age at my school, but they weren’t in my class, and I switched schools after 1st grade anyway). Apparently that means I’m a Muslim. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/15 "2011-03-17T19:52:55Z")
> [@Blaster\_Master](#): > > Meh… sounds to me like he’s not a birther, he just doesn’t want to alienate people who are. I wouldn’t call him a birther unless he started yammering for whatever the long form birth certificate and demanding that he resign or be impeached or whatever it is they want. Yeah, and if that’s the case, it was well, and cynically, played. It attracts nutters, but if he miraculously got the nomination, it leaves him plenty of wiggle room to run back to the middle. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/16 "2011-03-17T19:53:14Z")
I can beat that **fluidduid** , I would bet you that I was unforgettable to 99% of my classmates from K-12. I better never run for President. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/17 "2011-03-17T20:04:00Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > I just looked up Donald Trump’s educational background. He did his undergrad at Fordham University and his MBA at UPenn. While those are certainly excellent universities, that he refers to having gone to the best school in the country, with no qualifiers, is a bit…odd. When thinking of “the best school in the country”, Fordham doesn’t _immediately_ spring to mind. In Trump’s mind, the fact that Trump went there automatically means it’s the best Trumping school in the country. Yes, I just discovered that “Trump” can be used in the same way as “Smurf”. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/18 "2011-03-17T20:34:37Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > I don’t think he can reason. That furry brain slug is controlling him. Of course it wants him to be president. It wants to take over the world! It wants us all to be sporting our own furry brain slugs! Don’t fall for it! Has he stated his position yet on unreasonably large subsidies to the furry brain slug planet? > [@Kyla](#): > > I just looked up Donald Trump’s educational background. He did his undergrad at Fordham University and his MBA at UPenn. While those are certainly excellent universities, that he refers to having gone to the best school in the country, with no qualifiers, is a bit…odd. When thinking of “the best school in the country”, Fordham doesn’t _immediately_ spring to mind. MIT student speaking to Harvard student: “You know, Harvard is, arguably, the second finest school in the whole of Cambridge.” ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/19 "2011-03-17T20:50:45Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Yeah, and if that’s the case, it was well, and cynically, played. Whereas, if a Democratic candidate ever said “I’m a really smart guy. I was a really good student at the best school in the country.” - they would be crucified as “elitist” and “out of touch”, and the quote would be played in a 24 hour loop on FOX. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/20 "2011-03-17T20:56:38Z")
Wharton at UPenn is arguably the best MBA program in the country. ([cite, scroll down to the end for Rankings](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharton_School_of_the_University_of_Pennsylvania)) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044.md?page=2)