# Donald Trump is now a birther **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044 "2011-03-17T17:38:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/201 "2011-04-07T13:42:35Z")
Yeah, he went pretty fucking crazy this morning. Dude went full retard. Says he’s got a team of people investigating down in Hawaii and you wouldn’t believe what they’re discovering. No, I wouldn’t. I suppose that’s why he didn’t share what exactly that was? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/202 "2011-04-07T14:15:07Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yes, that would be a very good idea. Your green monster is showing. I’m just explaining why $30 million is not enough money for some. Do you honestly thing that I’m jealous of those who chase money and possessions as a goal in life? That’s hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/203 "2011-04-07T14:19:59Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Wow. This might be a very effective tactic. “I’m just saying there’s a possibility.” > > Of course, it’s devoid of any shred of intellectual honesty, or overall integrity. But it appears those qualities are not essential, in Trump’s view. More of a “nice to have,” perhaps. Sort of like saying: > [@](#): > > "I’m just saying that an organization made a plea deal to a minor offense, and rubbing that in people’s faces because it means they are GUILTY. > > The fact that they were completely innocent of the trumped up major charges that eventually destroyed them is neither here nor there" Also devoid of any shred of intellectual honesty, or overall integrity. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/204 "2011-04-07T14:22:34Z")
EP, the bricker-bashing thread is over that way. I’m not sure I buy that the Donald is all that until he submits to a thorough audit of his colander collection. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/205 "2011-04-07T14:33:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Of course, it’s devoid of any shred of intellectual honesty, or overall integrity. But it appears those qualities are not essential, in Trump’s view. More of a “nice to have,” perhaps. I’m getting more of an “annoyance from humanity’s distant past” sense. Like a vestigial tail. ETA: **Tom** , the lindsay-bashing thread is _that_ way. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/206 "2011-04-07T14:38:10Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > I saw him saying the same on O’Reilly. He said that after seeing what corpoate guys can do with documentation over the years he didn’t think that the paper announcements were credible. Buchanan and O’reilly have basically rolled their eyes at him. The guy is OUT THERE or trolling for attention or most likely IMO so ego driven that he’s backed himself into a corner and can’t just step out and say, my bad, instead he has to just keep being “The Donald” He’s doubling down. Next step is moral bankruptcy. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/207 "2011-04-07T14:40:32Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Sort of like saying: > > Also devoid of any shred of intellectual honesty, or overall integrity. Obviously, I disagree. The refusal to admit that ACORN committed even the slightest illegal act is the position that is void of honesty, intellectual or otherwise. My position is that they did, and further that their punishment for whatever minor offenses they committed was completely disproportionate to those offenses. YOUR position seems to be in lock-step with **Diogenes** : no, no, no, ACORN cannot and would not do anything even slightly wrong. I am confident that the vast majority of people reading our respective positions would conclude that I’m on much more solid ground here. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/208 "2011-04-07T14:50:12Z")
Bricker, as I previously mentioned, the thread in which you demonstrate your complete righteousness is over _that_ way. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/209 "2011-04-07T14:54:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I am confident that the vast majority of people reading our respective positions would conclude that I’m on much more solid ground here. Actually, most of us are regarding you as we would a petulant 8 year old who found his baseball mitt in his sister’s room. But far be it from me to deflate your hard-on over this. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/210 "2011-04-07T14:58:11Z")
_ahem_ Can you all take the ACORN stuff elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/211 "2011-04-07T16:33:24Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _ahem_ Can you all take the ACORN stuff elsewhere? I know. These hijacks are as bad as people who say “veggies.” ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/212 "2011-04-07T16:54:19Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Obviously, I disagree. > > The refusal to admit that ACORN committed even the slightest illegal act is the position that is void of honesty, intellectual or otherwise. My position is that they did, and further that their punishment for whatever minor offenses they committed was completely disproportionate to those offenses. > > YOUR position seems to be in lock-step with **Diogenes** : no, no, no, ACORN cannot and would not do anything even slightly wrong. > > I am confident that the vast majority of people reading our respective positions would conclude that I’m on much more solid ground here. Of course you are right. An organization with 30,000 employees will certainly have a few bad apples who do something wrong. They of course prove the entire organization is corrupt and must be shut down. Therefore we should shut down the government, the house and the senate. We should stomp on evil lawyers because so many are corrupt. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/213 "2011-04-07T18:39:47Z")
Well, Trump is now only 4 points behind Romney for first place in the latest [NBC/WSJ poll](http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/11139%20April%202011%20Filled-in.pdf). ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/214 "2011-04-07T21:18:46Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Of course you are right. An organization with 30,000 employees will certainly have a few bad apples who do something wrong. They of course prove the entire organization is corrupt and must be shut down. Therefore we should shut down the government, the house and the senate. We should stomp on evil lawyers because so many are corrupt. The question is whether or not the constant redirections to the actual ACORN thread is becoming as big a hijack as the posts about ACORN in this thread. Maybe we should just leave the thread and start posting about Trump in the ACORN thread. Or combine the two and talk about how Donald Trump refuses to believe that Obama was sprouted from a Hawiian acorn. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/215 "2011-04-08T05:01:37Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Well, Trump is now only 4 points behind Romney for first place in the latest [NBC/WSJ poll](http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/11139%20April%202011%20Filled-in.pdf). I don’t know if I should laugh at this or cry. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/216 "2011-04-08T06:31:54Z")
My favorite birther claim (and repeated by Trump) is the _maybe he’s hiding something and that’s why he doesn’t want to show it_. Because there could be something so scandalous on his BC that the American public NEEDS TO KNOW! I get that they’re hoping that it says “Muslim” on there, but it’s the occasionally coy way of phrasing it that makes me smirk. The fact that they’re hoping it says that and that it will drive votes away from him makes me frown. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/217 "2011-04-08T06:43:43Z")
Well, he could also be lizard people. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/218 "2011-04-08T06:59:01Z")
But he’s already shown the Certificate of Live Birth. Lizard people hatch from eggs–so at least that front is covered. No, wait … that wouldn’t make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/219 "2011-04-08T07:46:18Z")
At least it clears the air regarding the lizard zombie people issue. ETA : Unless he died later. Can anyone prove Obama’s not undead ? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044/220 "2011-04-08T11:28:16Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > At least it clears the air regarding the lizard zombie people issue. > > ETA : Unless he died later. Can anyone prove Obama’s not undead ? This is the easy joke, but it’s early and I’m lazy. He’s not a zombie because he works is Washington D.C.. Not a single brain there. If he were a zombie, he’d have starved to death long ago. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-is-now-a-birther/575044.md?page=12)