# Donald Trump lie of the day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 27, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552 "2016-06-27T19:50:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/1 "2016-06-27T19:50:02Z")

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The place to post each day’s Trump lies.

I’ll start with this one:

“While Hillary was Secretary of State, she funneled $55.2 million of State Department money to Laureate Education while Bill Clinton worked for them.”

The truth:

> **[Trump campaign’s claim that State Department gave $55.2 million to Laureate...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/27/trump-campaigns-unsupported-claim-that-state-department-gave-55-million-to-laureate-universities-which-hired-bill-clinton/)**
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> We check out a charge by the Trump campaign, but find no evidence to back it up.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/2 "2016-06-27T20:05:01Z")

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Good luck with this. It would be nice to have one place where all of his lies and the disemboweling disprovals of same could reside and where one could refer any doubtful voters. Maybe there could also be a words-of-one-syllable version for Trump supporters, on the off chance that any of them would care about facts.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/3 "2016-06-27T21:01:05Z")

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Yeah, I admire the commitment this is going to need.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/4 "2016-06-27T21:17:14Z")

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Good luck, **RK.** 😉  
[Trump Surrogate Dismisses Fact-Checking As ‘Elitist’ And ‘Out Of Touch’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeffrey-lord-fact-checking-donald-trump_us_577134d7e4b0dbb1bbbb1570)

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> Lord’s comments came in response to a question from Stelter, who asked if Trump should “be more careful” in his speeches, given that fact-checking is critical of Trump “across the board.”
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> “I honestly don’t think this ‘fact-checking’ business … is anything more than one more out of touch, elitist media-type thing,” Lord said. “I don’t think people out here in America care. What they care about are what the candidates say.”

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/5 "2016-06-27T21:27:26Z")

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Throughout the Trump campaign, it’s the \*transparency \*of the contempt that boggles me. “Our voters are too stupid to care about facts.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/6 "2016-06-27T21:30:56Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Throughout the Trump campaign, it’s the \*transparency \*of the contempt that boggles me. “Our voters are too stupid to care about facts.”

Thats not the way the voters see it.

Voters see it as “facts got us here and this sucks so fuck facts.” Many see it as a choice between facts that they know will fuck them over and non-facts that offer them hope.

Did you not pay attention to the Brexit vote? 😕

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/7 "2016-06-27T21:31:56Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Yeah, I admire the commitment this is going to need.

If there’s follow-through on that commitment (by many, not just the OP), then this thread will reach the length of the “Stupid Republican Idea of the Day” thread within a week.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/8 "2016-06-27T21:42:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Good luck, **RK.** 😉  
> [Trump Surrogate Dismisses Fact-Checking As ‘Elitist’ And ‘Out Of Touch’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeffrey-lord-fact-checking-donald-trump_us_577134d7e4b0dbb1bbbb1570)

That attitude towards fact checking didn’t work for Romney; I don’t see why the Trump camp thinks it will benefit his cause.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/9 "2016-06-27T21:42:37Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Thats not the way the voters see it.  
> Voters see it as “facts got us here and this sucks so fuck facts.” Many see it as a choice between facts that they know will fuck them over and non-facts that offer them hope.
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> Did you not pay attention to the Brexit vote? 😕

The Brexit vote does offer the perfect opportunity to see how voters react to being told something is a Fact-----and then told the next day that it is NOT a Fact, after all. Oops!

“Walking back” is the term of the day, with reference to Leave advocates having promised to get rid of all those dark-skinned people (they won’t), as well as having promised to give the cash that used to be paid to the EU to…well, practically every interest-group in the UK, but most notably the National Health Service. Ain’t gonna happen, it turns out. Oops!

Of course it’s a preview of what Trump fans would find out the day after Trump is (hypothetically) elected President. No, he’s NOT going to bring back your factory job, he’s NOT going to expel all the dark-skinned people, he’s not going to declare Evangelical Christianity the state religion and outlaw all other religions, and, most emphatically, he is NOT going to build a wall (nor get Mexico to pay a dime toward border operations).

Oops!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/10 "2016-06-27T21:45:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> That attitude towards fact checking didn’t work for Romney; I don’t see why the Trump camp thinks it will benefit his cause.

Romney didn’t have supporters backing up his lies by claiming it happened to them.  
After Trump claimed there were thousands of Muslims celebrating in NJ on 9/11, his supporters started claiming they saw them too despite the fact there was no evidence.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/11 "2016-06-27T21:50:38Z")

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The good thing about a project like this on a board like this is, since we’re so spread apart geographically, it can be done in shifts.

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> Voters see it as “facts got us here and this sucks so fuck facts.”

Very apt. Very, very apt. In fact it’s so apt you won’t believe how apt it is. I mean, it’s really apt.

It’s also very close to “I reject your reality and substitute my own,” which used to be funny, because it wasn’t being used quite so literally.

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/12 "2016-06-27T21:56:06Z")

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Actual dictionary definition- **trumpery** : 1. something showy but worthless, 2. nonsense; rubbish. From the French _tromper_: to deceive, cheat. (Webster’s New World College Dictionary 5th Edition, 2014)

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/13 "2016-06-28T00:44:43Z")

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I got [one](http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/27/donald-trump-lies-world-fundraising-total/):

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> Donald Trump Lies To The World About His Fundraising Total

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/14 "2016-06-28T00:52:12Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Good luck with this. It would be nice to have one place where all of his lies and the disemboweling disprovals of same could reside and where one could refer any doubtful voters…

[Here ya go.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=796993)

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/15 "2016-06-28T02:04:24Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Good luck, **RK.** 😉  
> [Trump Surrogate Dismisses Fact-Checking As ‘Elitist’ And ‘Out Of Touch’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeffrey-lord-fact-checking-donald-trump_us_577134d7e4b0dbb1bbbb1570)

Again, Trump demonstrates his political brilliance by taking the rhetoric that the neocon arm of the Republican party has been stewing for the last couple of decades and making good on it, if in completely bull-headed fashion. He’s absolutely correct that most voters, and especially his supporters, don’t give a good whore’s fuck for actual facts.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/16 "2016-06-29T02:46:20Z")

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I know, I know…consider the source:

[This](http://www.cracked.com/blog/trump-having-twitter-conversations-with-fake-accounts/) article on [cracked.com](http://cracked.com) deconstructs the Donald’s Twitter followers, with some interesting hypotheses.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/17 "2016-06-29T02:58:23Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> [Here ya go.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=796993)

I’m not sure I see the point of your post.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/18 "2016-06-29T03:10:04Z")

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I believe he’s saying that this thread is the place you were wanting.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/19 "2016-06-29T15:22:49Z")

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Re: Trump seeing the celebrating Muslims on 9-11- from where did he claim to have seen them? From his penthouse, on tv?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-lie-of-the-day/758552/20 "2016-06-29T16:29:04Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I believe he’s saying that this thread is the place you were wanting.

Then that would be the definition of superfluous. I’ve already posted in this thread so I know where it is; and the point of my first post was the hope that this thread could be that place.

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