# Donald Trump: positives?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 19, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327 "2016-07-19T16:11:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/41 "2016-07-20T05:48:56Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> He doesn’t drink.

Waitaminute … I think I see the problem!

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/42 "2016-07-20T06:44:34Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> I didn’t say that Trump’s branding was tied to favorable impressions, although the Republican nomination would seem to indicate that he’s impressing some people. Think about it though - who doesn’t know who he is now? It’s a small number. V

Sorry I still think his branding is awful. People still know what an Edsel is, 50 years after they’ve stopped being made, that doesn’t mean it was good branding. Obama’s branding in 2008 was good branding, brilliantly sold his message and won him the election. Trump’s branding has always been polarizing, even before this election run. Ultimately Trump’s campaign is going to fail, and it will be studied in future marketing and communication courses of the textbook example of why it’s not always true that any publicity is good publicity.

What he is good at, is dominating the media cycle, thats a different skill to branding.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/43 "2016-07-20T08:24:18Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> He built a brand - his public persona - of being a straight shooter with no tolerance for bullshit. That persona is what people are buying into. They want someone to save them from everything that is Wrong with America.

I realize you’re not trying to defend him but I still disagree with that analysis.

He achieved that brand for a period of time in some sectors of the real estate market, but like anyone engaged in systematic dishonesty, the brand has gone to shit due to the multitudes that have been screwed by his tactics. His reputation, as cited many times in these forums, is now that of a ruthless swindler except among those who are totally out of the news loop.

One of the spectacular examples that has multiple instances in multiple cities is licensing his brand to the construction of ostensibly luxurious condos or condo/hotel complexes bearing the Trump name that are run by local slimeballs as bad or worse than he is. I think there’s at least one in Florida, one in the Caribbean, and one in Toronto that are like that. Lawsuits have been launched against Trump on the basis of all kinds of misrepresentations that revolve around these tactics – I know that some of the individual purchasers of condo units in the Trump Tower in Toronto are currently unable to sell them for even half the original purchase price. You can’t keep up this sort of scam forever. And as for the awesome value of having the Trump name on the building, some city councilors have been trying to have it changed because it’s an embarrassment.

As for his own personal image as a successful entrepreneur and straight shooter with no tolerance for bullshit, he didn’t create that image – his ghostwriter Tony Schwartz did, mostly based on fabrications and exaggerations. Trump then blundered into national politics simply to feed his enormous ego and demand for attention, and lucked out when it turned out that a significant segment of the electorate were very disaffected with the _status quo_ and also stupid enough to imagine that this blowhard demagogue cared any more for them than he’s ever cared about the poor schmucks he’s been swindling all his life.

So: Donald Trump positives: none that I can think of, seriously.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/44 "2016-07-20T08:44:54Z")

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His kids seem to like him and haven’t stopped working for him.

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**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/45 "2016-07-20T12:17:13Z")

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he’s a great marketer. And he has brought the issue of the wisdom of Muslim immigration to the forefront. Problem is the way he initially said it taints his ability to do anything good. He does also somewhat make me feel happy someone is challenging some aspects of feminism.

The problem is his economic plans, such as huge tariffs would ruin the economy, as would his plan to deport 12 million Mexican immigrants who did what anyone would do (and also people not likely to bring Islamism), and his general disregard for small-d democracy, not to mention his love of Putin.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/46 "2016-07-20T12:44:23Z")

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There’s a decent supermarket on the ground floor of his building on 3rd Ave and 69th St. I used to shop there all the time when I was living in the Upper East Side.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/47 "2016-07-20T13:35:57Z")

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He talked shit about W and still managed to win the GOP nom. That’s something I never thought I’d see.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/48 "2016-07-20T13:39:04Z")

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Huh. As OP, I thought I really must have been overlooking something, anything, in the firestorm of bullshit that envelops us.

But I guess not. Wow.

So we’re one old woman’s health, sanity and luck away from having someone in the Oval Office who shouldn’t be allowed on a White House tour…

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/49 "2016-07-20T13:41:35Z")

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He’s not Hilary Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/50 "2016-07-20T13:44:55Z")

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He gets to fuck a gorgeous woman.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/51 "2016-07-20T13:45:44Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> His kids seem to like him and haven’t stopped working for him.

He’s indulged his kids plenty!

Like when he let them cut off his balls and run everything for him.  
Like when he let them scoop out his brain with a trowel, because they needed an empty-headed puppet to run for POTUS so each of them could control him, and the country, while avoiding pesky background checks and being vetted.

Say what you will, he gives his kids everything they want…

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/52 "2016-07-20T13:49:16Z")

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He removed Mike Pence from the governor’s ballot in Indiana. Woo-hoo!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/53 "2016-07-20T14:15:06Z")

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He has established a Workfare program for at least one squirrel.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/54 "2016-07-20T14:24:05Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> He removed Mike Pence from the governor’s ballot in Indiana. Woo-hoo!

Score tally:

Removing Pence from the governor’s ballot = +1

Pence would have lost anyway = -1

Possibility Pence might be president when Trump gets bored and quits: -5000

Net score on the Pence factor alone = -5000

Negative score on Trump himself being president = error! divide by zero instruction trap!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/55 "2016-07-20T16:01:36Z")

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He’s not twins.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/57 "2016-07-20T18:07:50Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> He gets to fuck a gorgeous woman.

Probably has sex with Melania Trump from time to time as well. She’s also very attractive.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/58 "2016-07-20T18:13:00Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> He gets to fuck a gorgeous woman.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> Probably has sex with Melania Trump from time to time as well. She’s also very attractive.

++

–Better lock away yer wives and daughters! He’s got nothing wrong in THAT department, take his word\* for it.

- I recently heard that his word is his bond (or does he just teach that to his kids?), so I think we can rely on that.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/59 "2016-07-20T18:32:14Z")

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Another positive:

As much as he wants to, it appears that he has yet to bang his daughter.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/60 "2016-07-20T18:36:43Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Another positive:
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> As much as he wants to, it appears that he has yet to bang his daughter.

Yes, that’s good news. He has not banged his daughter – yet.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-positives/760327/61 "2016-07-20T18:41:58Z")

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Oh, and to be fair to the whole Trump family, to the best of my knowledge, he hasn’t banged any of his sons either – yet.

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