# Donald Trump releases birth certificate - I think it's fake. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 9, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644 "2013-01-09T17:15:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/61 "2013-01-14T18:50:36Z")
The Donald has just weighed in on another important issue: Treasury Secretary nominee [Jack Lew’s](http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02447/Lew--signature_2447839b.jpg) bizarre signature. On Fox & Friends this morning, Trump said: > [@](#): > > I think you can tell a lot about a person by their handwriting… It’s extremely secretive, and it shows he’s a very, very secretive person, unbelievably secretive, which of itself is interesting.” Fortunately, Trump has released his own signature: [Take a look.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donald_Trump_Signature.svg) After you look at it, I think you all know what I’m going to say, but I’ll spoiler box it anyway: _That’s not Donald Trump’s real signature!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/62 "2013-01-14T19:13:18Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Fortunately, Trump has released his own signature: [Take a look.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donald_Trump_Signature.svg) After you look at it, I think you all know what I’m going to say, but I’ll spoiler box it anyway: > > _That’s not Donald Trump’s real signature!!!_ Who the hell is Sousl Stumxnd? Cuz that’s what it looks like to me. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/63 "2013-01-14T19:26:40Z")
I’m always getting Fred C Trump confused with J Fred Muggs. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/64 "2013-01-14T19:38:32Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Donald Trump is an idiot. > …If Trump wants to stop being perceived as an idiot, he needs to stop acting like an idiot. Hey, careful there, **Little Nemo**. Remember – you. just. don’t. fuck. with. the. Donald. Guess who’s going to come out on top. You’re going to regret it. And so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/65 "2013-01-14T20:10:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Trump talked about his philosophy to being fucked with twenty-five or so years ago in _The Art of the Deal_. He hits back and he hits hard. That way people learn not to fuck with him. You mean like how he struck back at Seth Meyers when he fucked with Trump to his face at the correspondant’s dinner saying his running for president was a joke. Last I checked Seth is doing just fine. Trump’s heavy hit back- “Seth Meyers isn’t very funny.” ---
**Author:** ![temp\_user](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@temp\_user](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/temp_user)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/66 "2013-02-05T21:29:34Z")
ABCnews reported today that Trump is indeed suing Maher for $5 million. [http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/02/donald-trump-sues-bill-maher-for-5m/](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/02/donald-trump-sues-bill-maher-for-5m/) My question is, would this case be similar to the Falwell vs Hustler case [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler\_Magazine\_v.\_Falwell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell), when Hustler claimed Falwell had drunken intercourse with his mother in an outhouse? I believe Maher was using satire to make a point. ---
**Author:** ![temp\_user](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@temp\_user](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/temp_user)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/67 "2013-02-05T21:37:55Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > You mean like how he struck back at Seth Meyers when he fucked with Trump to his face at the correspondant’s dinner saying his running for president was a joke. Last I checked Seth is doing just fine. > Trump’s heavy hit back- “Seth Meyers isn’t very funny.” Berke Breathed used to satirize Trump pretty mercilessly back in the 80’s with impunity. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/68 "2013-02-05T21:40:46Z")
This sounds like the definition of a frivolous lawsuit. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/69 "2013-02-05T21:48:45Z")
Was there an actual response from Maher upon the release of the document from Trump? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/70 "2013-02-05T22:05:15Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Was there an actual response from Maher upon the release of the document from Trump? I assume he’s spending a lot of time talking to his lawyers before he responds publicly. Trump knows this suit is frivolous, but it could end up costing Maher a lot of money to defend it. ---
**Author:** ![temp\_user](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@temp\_user](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/temp_user)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/71 "2013-02-05T22:14:53Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I assume he’s spending a lot of time talking to his lawyers before he responds publicly. Trump knows this suit is frivolous, but it could end up costing Maher a lot of money to defend it. If the judge finds the lawsuit to be frivolous, will Maher be able to recoup his court costs? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/72 "2013-02-05T22:58:21Z")
I predict that Trump will next sue the estate of the late Henny Youngman, for (many years ago) refusing to let Trump take Youngman’s wife. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/73 "2013-02-06T00:21:29Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I assume he’s spending a lot of time talking to his lawyers before he responds publicly. Trump knows this suit is frivolous, but it could end up costing Maher a lot of money to defend it. I meant, did Maher ever give a response when Trump released the purported birth certificate. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/74 "2013-02-06T00:24:32Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I assume he’s spending a lot of time talking to his lawyers before he responds publicly. [He did respond on Twitter.](https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/298622742691971072) > [@Bill Maher](#): > > What?? Really? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/75 "2013-02-06T09:05:27Z")
I realize the whole thread is parody, but > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Either way, neither is the long form and the same arguments that Trump’s opponents (and some posters here) may use to challenge the authenticity of Trump’s birth certificate can also be legitimately applied to Obama’s. Isn’t this rather the point? Trump started the hogwash about birth certificate legitimacy, but then presents this one for himself. :dubious: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > … it might be a fake intended to illustrate - with Bill Maher as fallguy - that an official looking but nonetheless fake simile can easily be passed off as legitimate, and therefore a simile such as the one released by Obama could be faked just as easily. Oh! When the alleged semi-orangutan or anyone of his ilk does something stupid, incompetent or duplicitous it’s done to mock their opponents! Got it!!! Thanks for the joke, **Starving Artist**. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/76 "2013-02-09T03:17:26Z")
The thing I can see is that he can make Trump even more of a laughing stock by saying all these same things. He didn’t adhere to the stated conditions, and Maher has now withdrawn the offer since the guy decided to sue him. The thing is, Trump himself doesn’t have much money, relatively speaking. A countersuit should really worry him. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644/77 "2013-02-09T04:45:51Z")
Bill Maher was very funny about this tonight on Real Time. It’s worth a watch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-releases-birth-certificate-i-think-its-fake/646644.md?page=3)