# Donald Trump winks and nods to the Second Amendment people **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 9, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283 "2016-08-09T22:03:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/1 "2016-08-09T22:03:50Z")
> **[Trump Suggests Shooting Clinton, Her Supreme Court Picks, Or Both](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-shoot_n_57aa2f6de4b0ba7ed23dd652)** > > "A person seeking to be the president of the United States should not suggest violence in any way,” the Clinton campaign responded. This is officially the moment at which the Republican party stopped being a party, and became the American fascist movement. Of all the completely beyond the pale things that Donald Trump has said, this is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen in national politics. And I will be watching Republicans and those who identify as libertarians and conservative-leaning independents to see their reaction. Are they part of the American fascist movement, or are they good, upstanding American citizens. The Republican party needs to be completely and utterly dissolved. It has ceased the right to exist and it represents nothing but the worst of what was once a party of limited government. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/2 "2016-08-09T22:05:11Z")
Seriously, this guy is unhinged. Absolutely unhinged. I have stopped being shocked by the shit he says. Now I’m shocked by the people who still support him. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/3 "2016-08-09T22:08:46Z")
Trump just can’t use his brain before his vocal cords. Now, expect 2 days of “what he really meant” from Pence, his interpreter. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/4 "2016-08-09T22:12:33Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Trump just can’t use his brain before his vocal cords. Now, expect 2 days of “what he really meant” from Pence, his interpreter. They’re already spinning it, saying that he meant “in a unifying way.” No, he was inciting these people to violence. By making his statement deliberately vague, he was appealing to the complete fucking whackos out there who need little encouragement to take a head shot. This fucking guy needs the secret service to crawl up his ass; and not in a nice way. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/5 "2016-08-09T22:14:00Z")
The saddest and scariest part is that a guy like Trump who openly praises Vladimir Putin, who has called on our political enemies to commit crimes against the US to help Trump’s political agenda (hacking Hillary’s emails), who says we should be able to suppress the media, and who now is calling for the assassination of his political opponents will win at minimum 50 million votes in the general election. It is fucking amazing. Call for extra-judicial assassinations of your political enemies and still win 50 million votes. The fact that Trump will lose doesn’t change the fact that huge swaths of the US electorate are happy to have a protofascist like Trump in charge. I’m not going to be celebrating when Trump loses, I’m going to be disappointed that 50 million people still feel comfortable having someone like him in charge. The fact that 65 million or so may vote for Hillary doesn’t change that fact. ---
**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/6 "2016-08-09T22:16:00Z")
Has he no sense [del]of decency[/del], at long last? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/7 "2016-08-09T22:16:31Z")
Jason Miller is already lying in his spin on this, saying: “It’s called the power of unification – 2nd Amendment people have amazing spirit and are tremendously unified, which gives them great political power. And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won’t be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump.” Problem with this statement is Miller is referring to the election, and Trump was referring to actions to take place after Hillary was elected. > **[Trump Suggests Shooting Clinton, Her Supreme Court Picks, Or Both](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-clinton-shoot_n_57aa2f6de4b0ba7ed23dd652)** > > "A person seeking to be the president of the United States should not suggest violence in any way,” the Clinton campaign responded. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/8 "2016-08-09T22:17:14Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > … > > The fact that Trump will lose doesn’t change the fact that huge swaths of the US electorate are happy to have a protofascist like Trump in charge. I’m not going to be celebrating when Trump loses, I’m going to be disappointed that 50 million people still feel comfortable having someone like him in charge. The fact that 65 million or so may vote for Hillary doesn’t change that fact. You must remember that half the people in the US have a below average IQ. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/9 "2016-08-09T22:20:09Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > The saddest and scariest part is that a guy like Trump who openly praises Vladimir Putin, who has called on our political enemies to commit crimes against the US to help Trump’s political agenda (hacking Hillary’s emails), who says we should be able to suppress the media, and who now is calling for the assassination of his political opponents will win at minimum 50 million votes in the general election. > > It is fucking amazing. Call for extra-judicial assassinations of your political enemies and still win 50 million votes. > > The fact that Trump will lose doesn’t change the fact that huge swaths of the US electorate are happy to have a protofascist like Trump in charge. I wish your post would be the topic of discussion on every political/talk show, tonight. Depressing as this all is, it may be that it was always true that some huge fraction of Americans would be pleased to support a fascist (or protofascist). Or maybe it’s true that this could be said of most nations. There will always be a substantial portion of any human group that’s in love with murderous authoritarians. Daddy will keep us safe! (If that _is_ the case, it’s no comfort, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/10 "2016-08-09T22:23:17Z")
> [@](#): > > By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, **maybe there is, I dunno.** It is impossible to argue that by the highlighted part he had in mind peacefully uniting in a block to vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/11 "2016-08-09T22:25:49Z")
At this point, I just want Trump to keep talking. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/12 "2016-08-09T22:35:21Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I wish your post would be the topic of discussion on every political/talk show, tonight. > > Depressing as this all is, it may be that it was always true that some huge fraction of Americans would be pleased to support a fascist (or protofascist). Or maybe it’s true that this could be said of most nations. There will always be a substantial portion of any human group that’s in love with murderous authoritarians. Daddy will keep us safe! > > (If that _is_ the case, it’s no comfort, of course.) Do you know about right wing authoritarianism (RWA)? It is a personality type that is prone to fascism. Trumps supporters are high on RWA. > **[The rise of American authoritarianism](https://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism)** > > A niche group of political scientists may have uncovered what’s driving Donald Trump’s ascent. What they found has implications that go well beyond 2016. > **[Got an authoritarian streak? Study says odds are, you're for Trump. - The...](https://theworld.org/stories/2016/02/25/got-authoritarian-streak-study-says-odds-are-youre-trump)** > > Authoritarians like strong leaders, feel threatened by outsiders and like plain language and rousing promises like "make America great again." No surprise, then, that Donald Trump is drawing them in. About 18 to 30 percent of Americans skew... > **[Authoritarianism in American Politics](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/authoritarianism-in-american-politics/)** > > I’m reading a compelling new book, Authoritarianism & Polarization in American Politics, co-written by Marc Hetherington and Jonathan Weiler. (Disclosure: J… > **[Right-wing authoritarianism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism)** > > In psychology, right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is a set of attitudes, describing somebody who is highly submissive to their authority figures, acts aggressively in the name of said authorities, and is conformist in thought and behavior. The prevalence of this attitude in a population varies from culture to culture, as a person's upbringing and education play a strong role in determining whether somebody develops this sort of worldview. > The right-wing authoritarian was defined by Bob Altemeyer ... Roughly 15-25% of adults score high on RWA. Those people would have no problem with a proto-fascist in charge just so long as the proto-fascist was hostile to outsiders, minorities and threats. The problem is the other 20-30% of voters who are not RWAs, who will end up voting for Trump. Hillary haters, libertarians, small government conservatives, etc. A coalition of RWAs and their enablers is going to give a protofascist like Trump 50 million votes. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/13 "2016-08-09T22:39:18Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You must remember that half the people in the US have a below average IQ. Yes, but we really were hoping that the GOP would nominate someone from the top half of the class… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/14 "2016-08-09T22:49:10Z")
If his next fiasco involves him pulling out his penis and waggling it around, I’ll feel sorry for him and support institutionalization. But nothing short of that would be a shock at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/15 "2016-08-09T22:53:20Z")
Even Jeff Sessions is backing away from this one. ---
**Author:** ![AustinJane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@AustinJane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AustinJane)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/16 "2016-08-09T23:01:55Z")
I saw a Twitter that really made me think. Trump is now protected by the Secret Service. What must they be thinking, the person they are protecting just put their coworkers guarding Hillary at risk. I doubt Trump even has a clue that those charged with keeping him safe would not think highly of this. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/17 "2016-08-09T23:05:09Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > The problem is the other 20-30% of voters who are not RWAs, who will end up voting for Trump. Hillary haters, libertarians, small government conservatives, etc. Just spitballing here, but the libertarians could try voting for, umm, the Libertarians. :smack:\* \*Not at you, at any libertarians for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/18 "2016-08-09T23:09:41Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > . . . I’m not going to be celebrating when Trump loses, I’m going to be disappointed that 50 million people still feel comfortable having someone like him in charge. . . . “Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard, the bitch that bore him is in heat again.” Bertolt Brecht ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/19 "2016-08-09T23:11:30Z")
Any bets that the national news doesn’t even mention this tonight? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/20 "2016-08-09T23:12:20Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You must remember that half the people in the US have a below average IQ. Super pedantic nitpickery, but half the people have a below-median IQ. There are ways for a large majority – or tiny minority – to have a below- or above-average numerical quality such as IQ, height, weight, etc. (“I’m outraged that fully half the people in this country have a below-median income!”) Sorry. The masked statistician strikes again! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283.md?page=2)