# Donald Trump winks and nods to the Second Amendment people

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 9, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283 "2016-08-09T22:03:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/281 "2016-08-11T18:01:29Z")

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> [@john\_L](#):
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> just "faux outrage " , as usual from lefties.  
> if "real danger " existed , you certainly wouldn’t continue broadcasting that danger, over-n-over.

Looks like you could use some guidance on when and when not to use quotation marks:

[http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/quotation-marks.html](http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/quotation-marks.html)

HTH

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/282 "2016-08-11T18:05:26Z")

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> [@YamatoTwinkie](#):
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> I just wanted to point out that there is some ambiguity over the punctuation after “horrible day”, whether its:
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> Or:
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> Whether there being a comma or a period after the “horrible day” changes the interpretation slightly. I’ve seen it reported both ways, but listening to the full audio clip a few times, it seems more likely to me that it’s the former. I still think the rest of the quote is obviously playing to the paranoid fantasy of armed resistance to the Feds, but I agree that the “horrible day” part is more ambiguous.

While I appreciate you looking at this as closely as you are, does it make sense to look at a transcript and try to divine the intent when we can see the actual delivery. Either way there was a little pause, we can all agree on.

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**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/283 "2016-08-11T18:11:40Z")

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[quote=“JohnT, post:280, topic:762283”]

As President, you’re allowed to say this \*\*zero \*\*times. That is the issue - it goes to **character and temperament.[**/QUOTE]  
john T has memorized hillary talking point for a rebut.  
give him a treat 😃

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**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/284 "2016-08-11T18:15:08Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Looks like you could use some guidance on when and when not to use quotation marks:
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> [Quotation marks | The Punctuation Guide](http://www.thepunctuationguide.com/quotation-marks.html)
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> HTH

when & if i need your tutelage , i’ll let ya know. 😃

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/285 "2016-08-11T18:23:34Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> While I appreciate you looking at this as closely as you are, does it make sense to look at a transcript and try to divine the intent when we can see the actual delivery.

FWIW, even though his speech on Tuesday was apparently a prepared speech, the lines in question appeared to have been an off-the-cuff side remark, and probably weren’t actually in his written script.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/286 "2016-08-11T18:23:49Z")

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> [@john\_L](#):
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> when & if i need your tutelage , i’ll let ya know. 😃

It’s not just quotation _marks_. The QUOTE feature here works well–if you use it right.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/287 "2016-08-11T18:26:56Z")

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I love it when people are ignorant and proud of it. “lookit me, i dont even have to use them captals!”

In other news, Reagan’s daughter is not impressed with Trump, and [calls attention to that.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/reagan-daughter-blasts-trump/)

> [@](#):
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> “To Donald Trump: I am the daughter of a man who was shot by someone who got his inspiration from a movie, someone who believed if he killed the President the actress from that movie would notice him,”… “Yes, Mr. Trump, words matter. But then you know that, which makes this all even more horrifying.”

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**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/288 "2016-08-11T18:29:41Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> It’s not just quotation _marks_. The QUOTE feature here works well–if you use it right.

> [@john\_L](#):
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> when & if i need your tutelage , i’ll let ya know. 😃

😃

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/289 "2016-08-11T18:34:01Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I love it when people are ignorant and proud of it. “lookit me, i dont even have to use them captals!”
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> In other news, Reagan’s daughter is not impressed with Trump, and [calls attention to that.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/reagan-daughter-blasts-trump/)

I’m not familiar with his daughter, but that is one dumb comment.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/290 "2016-08-11T18:35:41Z")

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> [@john\_L](#):
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> just "faux outrage " , as usual from lefties.  
> if "real danger " existed , you certainly wouldn’t continue broadcasting that danger, over-n-over.

So you are suggesting that the media have the **duty** to censor politicians, and refuse to broadcast anything they deem is a danger to the country?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/291 "2016-08-11T18:38:19Z")

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He made this comment once, true. He has made the comment multiple times (at least twice) that he’d like to see her secret service agents disarmed.

He still isn’t spending much on ads, because he counts on all the free media he generates through being Trump and saying outrageous things. If the media hadn’t reported this, he would have to up his game and say something worse.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/292 "2016-08-11T18:41:58Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I’m not familiar with his daughter, but that is one dumb comment.

… and that’s because…?

I believe her point was that there are crazy people in the world, and it does not take much to set them off on a path to violence. Perhaps public figures should think before they speak, and not actually say things which may well be taken to encourage violence against political foes.

This does not seem particularly “dumb” to me.

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**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/293 "2016-08-11T18:42:17Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> So you are\*\* suggesting\*\* that the media have the **duty** to censor politicians, and refuse to broadcast anything they deem is a danger to the country?

i’m **suggesting** exactly what i wrote.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/294 "2016-08-11T18:43:01Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> So you are suggesting that the media have the **duty** to censor politicians, and refuse to broadcast anything they deem is a danger to the country?

That’s right-What right does the general public have to know what dangerous ideas he is planting in the heads of his followers? The media should just report on the disastrous aftereffects. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/295 "2016-08-11T18:48:54Z")

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> [@john\_L](#):
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> i’m **suggesting** exactly what i wrote.

I’ll take that as a yes.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/296 "2016-08-11T18:51:41Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> … and that’s because…?
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> I believe her point was that there are crazy people in the world, and it does not take much to set them off on a path to violence. Perhaps public figures should think before they speak, and not actually say things which may well be taken to encourage violence against political foes.
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> This does not seem particularly “dumb” to me.

Well, I guess we shouldn’t make movies or say anything, because, you know, some crazy loon might think the message is to don a scuba suit, grab a bow and arrow and hunt down people with freckles.

What you said makes much more sense. Her trying to tie it to her father’s shooter is just dumb as fuck.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/297 "2016-08-11T18:53:11Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> I’ll take that as a yes.

> [@john\_L](#):
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> i’m **suggesting** exactly what i wrote.

if you reread 10 times , maybe it’ll sink in. ??

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/298 "2016-08-11T18:55:59Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> …and hunt down people with freckles…

You will regret this insult to the freckled. Our Day is coming!

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/299 "2016-08-11T18:57:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You will regret this insult to the freckled. Our Day is coming!

We will build a wall of sunlamps to keep you out…

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/300 "2016-08-11T18:58:51Z")

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> [@john\_L](#):
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> if you reread 10 times , maybe it’ll sink in. ??

`if "real danger " existed , you certainly wouldn’t continue broadcasting that danger, over-n-over.’  
I’ve reread that 10 times, and I can’t think of any other interpretation. You’re saying the media shouldn’t (or wouldn’t) report and publicize a candidate’s speech if the speech posed a danger to the public.

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