# Donald Trump winks and nods to the Second Amendment people **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 9, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283 "2016-08-09T22:03:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/301 "2016-08-11T18:59:39Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > We will build a wall of sunlamps to keep you out… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/302 "2016-08-11T19:02:32Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > `if "real danger " existed , you certainly wouldn’t continue broadcasting that danger, over-n-over.’ > I’ve reread that 10 times, and I can’t think of **any other interpretation.** You’re saying the media shouldn’t (or wouldn’t) report and publicize a candidate’s speech if the speech posed a danger to the public. \*\* try the " it ain’t real danger " interpretation.\*\* 😃 ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/303 "2016-08-11T19:08:27Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > \*\* > try the " it ain’t real danger " interpretation.\*\* 😃 Your logic hinges on your assumption that **if** it were a real danger, then the media wouldn’t or shouldn’t publicize it. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/304 "2016-08-11T19:09:04Z")
So what were you blaming the media for, again? ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/305 "2016-08-11T19:12:52Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > So what were you blaming the media for, again? They are unfair. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/306 "2016-08-11T19:20:53Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > if you reread 10 times , maybe it’ll sink in. ?? Same trick as **octopus** , huh? Say something both outrageous and slightly ambiguous, and when people paraphrase, rather than clarify any misunderstanding, turn the whole thing into an argument about whether their paraphrase is accurate. It’s a ridiculous way to carry on a discussion, but at least it keeps you from having to confront the implications of your ideas, so there’s that. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/307 "2016-08-11T19:20:57Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Your logic hinges on your assumption that **if** it were a real danger, then the media wouldn’t or shouldn’t publicize it. ??? you are 😕 ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/308 "2016-08-11T19:25:00Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > ??? you are 😕 Then help me understand what you meant. My interpretation of your statement is: we know the outrage is fake, because if the media really thought Trump’s statement had the danger to incite violence, they wouldn’t report and publicize it. Which assumes that the media would censor statements that would actually incite violence. I am questioning that assumption. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/309 "2016-08-11T19:27:24Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Same trick as **octopus** , huh? Say something both outrageous and slightly ambiguous, and when people paraphrase, rather than clarify any **misunderstanding,** turn the whole thing into an argument about whether their paraphrase is accurate. > > It’s a ridiculous way to carry on a discussion, but at least it keeps you from having to confront the implications of your ideas, so there’s that. how the heck is " faux outrage " a misunderstanding ? :D: ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/310 "2016-08-11T19:29:21Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It’s well known the NRA is one of the more powerful lobby groups. Trump was simply saying they could stop her. How? By voting. Duh!!! Do you honestly believe that’s what he meant? Look again at what he said: > [@Trump](#): > > By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I tell you what, that will be a horrible day. If he was talking about before the election, why is there nothing you can do, except maybe for the “Second Amendment people”? Are they the only ones who can vote? And why would them voting mean it was a horrible day? You can say “He didn’t really mean it” or “It was a bad joke” or whatever, but I find it extremely hard to see how you could look at those words and think that at that moment he didn’t have some sort of post-election action by gun owners in mind. His words just don’t make sense otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/311 "2016-08-11T19:31:05Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Then help me understand what you meant. My interpretation of your statement is: we know the outrage is fake, because if the media really thought Trump’s statement had the danger to incite violence, they wouldn’t report and publicize it. > > Which assumes that the media would censor statements that would actually incite violence. I am questioning that assumption. The outrage is real–although it may not yet be sufficient to prevent the danger of there ever being a President Trump. How unfair. Trump speaks in front of cameras & the results are presented to the world. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/312 "2016-08-11T19:39:26Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > The outrage is real–although it may not yet be sufficient to prevent the danger of there ever being a President Trump. > > How unfair. Trump speaks in front of cameras & the results are presented to the world. To be fair to him, the media should wait until the next day, when Trump’s surrogates can explain what he meant. It’s so unfair that they present his actual words on the very day he spoke them! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/313 "2016-08-11T19:40:25Z")
Notice **John L’s** join date, people. I ain’t saying anything else. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/314 "2016-08-11T19:40:47Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Then help me understand what you meant. My interpretation of your statement is: we know the outrage is fake, because if the media really thought Trump’s statement had the danger to incite violence, they wouldn’t report and publicize it. > > Which assumes that the media would censor statements that would actually incite violence. I am questioning that assumption. what media \*\*might do. \*\*?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/315 "2016-08-11T19:41:59Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Notice **John L’s** join date, people. I ain’t saying anything else. He had me at 😃 ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/316 "2016-08-11T19:44:09Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > what media \*\*might do. \*\*?? It would be really helpful if you could at lest post complete sentences. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/317 "2016-08-11T19:46:03Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > what media \*\*might do. \*\*?? 😃 You use “:D” a lot-Are we to interpret this to mean that we shouldn’t take you seriously? ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/318 "2016-08-11T19:46:07Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I just don’t think that’s where her mind was going at all, although of course in retrospect she realized she failed to choose her words carefully. I think the point was that we only remember that day because he was assassinated (if he had just won the primary and stayed alive, only a much smaller number of political junkies and historians would remember). But since it is so well remembered, she was saying “Hey, you know that day that was so famous? That was in _June_, and there was still an active race going on. This isn’t over yet!” **I really don’t think the actual fact that he was assassinated was part of what she was trading on there, not at all.** But you admit that what made that election memorable in the first place was RFK being assassinated. Out of all the ways to make the point that a race isn’t over yet and she innocently picks the one example from 40 years ago involving a candidate being killed. Yeah…no. Love her or hate her, Hillary isn’t a free associator who say the first random thing that pops in her head. She was exploiting fears about Obama being an assassin’s target. The question of when a losing candidate should drop out of a race is pretty standard when it comes to presidential campaigns, so there really was no reason for her to deviate from a standard response. That is what makes the gaffe so telling. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/319 "2016-08-11T19:50:05Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > It would be really helpful if you could at lest post complete sentences. soon as i finish quotation lessons . :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/320 "2016-08-11T19:53:05Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You use “:D” a lot-Are we to \*\*interpret \*\*this to mean that we shouldn’t take you seriously? ya’ll like this **interpret** & **assume** i see . 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283.md?page=17)