# Donald Trump winks and nods to the Second Amendment people **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 9, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283 "2016-08-09T22:03:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/381 "2016-08-12T13:47:55Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > That might be exaggerating a bit. šŸ˜› I donā€™t think Smapti was exaggerating at all in saying that we wonā€™t have to worry about judge-picking when Trumpā€™s in the White House because the human race wonā€™t exist. Well, a little bit maybe because there will still be some humans left alive in the Southern Hemisphere. Trump is absolutely, unquestionably a serious risk to start World War Three and a nuclear holocaust. Thatā€™s Smaptiā€™s concern and heā€™s one hundred percent correct to be concerned about it. Trump has stated as his foreign policy goals actiosn that will destabilize the worldā€™s security apparatus to an extent not seen since the 1930s, and his temperament is, shall we say, substantially more mercurial than anyone else who has been nominated to have the power to launch nuclear weapons. Indeed, _the power to take immediate military action is probably the one area in which there are the fewest checks on the Presidentā€™s power_. Quibbling over the Supreme Court appointments is rather small potatoes. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/382 "2016-08-12T13:55:06Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I donā€™t think Smapti was exaggerating at all in saying that we wonā€™t have to worry about judge-picking when Trumpā€™s in the White House because the human race wonā€™t exist. Well, a little bit maybe because there will still be some humans left alive in the Southern Hemisphere. > > Trump is absolutely, unquestionably a serious risk to start World War Three and a nuclear holocaust. Thatā€™s Smaptiā€™s concern and heā€™s one hundred percent correct to be concerned about it. Trump has stated as his foreign policy goals actiosn that will destabilize the worldā€™s security apparatus to an extent not seen since the 1930s, and his temperament is, shall we say, substantially more mercurial than anyone else who has been nominated to have the power to launch nuclear weapons. Indeed, _the power to take immediate military action is probably the one area in which there are the fewest checks on the Presidentā€™s power_. Quibbling over the Supreme Court appointments is rather small potatoes. You really believe Trump will start a nuclear war? What would the reward be? Heā€™s not that insane. And a question for those who were hoping for Trump early to cause chaos and discord. Happy now? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/383 "2016-08-12T13:57:37Z")
He wouldnā€™t do it for a reward, heā€™d do it because heā€™s stupid and ignorant. Dismantling NATO or the various Pacific alliances is opening the door to World War Three. Thatā€™s why NATO exists. The guy wants to shrug off NATO, openly asks ā€œwhy donā€™t we just use nuclear weapons?ā€ for conventional military problems and is rather easily pissed off if he feels someone is unfair to him. His policies point towards global war and his temperament points toward global war. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/384 "2016-08-12T14:00:34Z")
I mean, if you look at it the right way, liberals and leftys are to blame for Trump! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/385 "2016-08-12T14:02:19Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I mean, if you look at it the right way, liberals and leftys are to blame for Trump! Those that tampered with Republican primaries most certainly contributed. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/386 "2016-08-12T14:07:16Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I didnā€™t vote for Bush twice. And the president acting alone canā€™t do much. We have a congress, courts, a military, obstinate state governors, sanctuary cities, and the 2nd amendment. What is that Holy Second Half Of The Second Amendment going to do for you? Overthrow the government by force? Not gonna happen. Assassinate leaders you donā€™t like? More likely. Exactly what do you thing your Precious Second does to keep the president in check? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/387 "2016-08-12T14:17:23Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Those that tampered with Republican primaries most certainly contributed. Bring. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/388 "2016-08-12T14:26:32Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You really believe Trump will start a nuclear war? What would the reward be? Support from voters who want to see our enemies destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/389 "2016-08-12T15:23:22Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > What is that Holy Second Half Of The Second Amendment going to do for you? What a tired, failed attempt of a meme. Not surprising to see from someone on the left which barely likes 1/5th of the first. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/390 "2016-08-12T15:24:45Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Support from voters who want to see our enemies destroyed. Getting nuked back would not be any fun. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/391 "2016-08-12T15:58:13Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Those that tampered with Republican primaries most certainly contributed. Look, I agree: itā€™s a terrible idea to tamper with primaries the way some folks talked about doing. Those folks bear some of the responsibility. But letā€™s be honest: if weā€™re apportioning blame for Trumpā€™s candidacy, thatā€™s a minuscule portion of the blame. Start with a Republican establishment that courted and pandered to the Tea Party, and work forwards and backwards from there. The whole rise of Limbaugh and Fox News in the nineties is a good place to look at, their encouragement of reactionary, emotional, lie-based versions of news. So yeah, tampering in elections is bad. Pandering to the worst impulses of the American public is also bad. ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/392 "2016-08-12T16:02:59Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I mean, if you look at it the right way, liberals and leftys are to blame for Trump! Obama founded Trump. And Hillary too. They actually went back in a time machine, had sex, Hillary gave birth to a boy who was dyed orange to disguise his true identity and then he was raised to eventually discredit the Republican Party. Many people say that this makes perfect sense. I mean that literally. By which I mean sarcastically. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/393 "2016-08-12T16:28:04Z")
Speaking of Trump and Pennywise, [![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/80506bc8c4d80081132b573a45b31739/tumblr_nty5d69crI1tpri36o1_500.jpg) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/80506bc8c4d80081132b573a45b31739/tumblr_nty5d69crI1tpri36o1_500.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/394 "2016-08-12T16:44:51Z")
Friedman in the [New York Times](http://nyti.ms/2aTNn3N) > [@](#): > > And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin got assassinated. > > His right-wing opponents just kept delegitimizing him as a ā€œtraitorā€ and ā€œa Naziā€ for wanting to make peace with the Palestinians and give back part of the Land of Israel. Of course, all is fair in politics, right? And they had God on their side, right? They werenā€™t actually telling anyone to assassinate Rabin. That would be horrible. > > And thatā€™s what the Jewish extremist Yigal Amir did to Rabin. Why not? He thought he had permission from a whole segment of Israelā€™s political class. > > In September, I wrote a column warning that Donald Trumpā€™s language toward immigrants could end up inciting just this kind of violence. I never in my wildest dreams, though, thought heā€™d actually ā€” in his usual coy, twisted way ā€” suggest that Hillary Clinton was so intent on taking away the Second Amendment right to bear arms that maybe Second Amendment enthusiasts could do something to stop her. > > ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/395 "2016-08-12T17:26:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Friedman in the [New York Times](http://nyti.ms/2aTNn3N) This is exactly what Iā€™m talking about. Even if Trump gets creamed in this election, the toxicity remains. Iā€™ve noticed ever since the 1992 election the increasingly extreme reactions among the right wing in this country to defeats at the ballot box. Going back to Bill Clinton, they argued that he wasnā€™t really a true president because only 40-42 percent of people voted for him. That perception of illegitimacy festered and eventually developed into the hiring of an independent investigator, which then resulted in no charges about any of the original allegations (Whitewater and sexual harassment) but turned into a full-blown impeachment scandalā€¦over a blowjob. Fast forward to 2009 and you have allegations that Obamaā€™s a closet Muslim and that heā€™s working with Al Qaeda. And now this outrageous stream of comments. There are probably numerous people out there right now who would try to argue that they would be justified using violence. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/396 "2016-08-12T19:37:23Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > This is exactly what Iā€™m talking about. Even if Trump gets creamed in this election, the toxicity remains. > > Iā€™ve noticed ever since the 1992 election the increasingly extreme reactions among the right wing in this country to defeats at the ballot box. Going back to Bill Clinton, they argued that he wasnā€™t really a true president because only 40-42 percent of people voted for him. That perception of illegitimacy festered and eventually developed into the hiring of an independent investigator, which then resulted in no charges about any of the original allegations (Whitewater and sexual harassment) but turned into a full-blown impeachment scandalā€¦over a blowjob. Fast forward to 2009 and you have allegations that Obamaā€™s a closet Muslim and that heā€™s working with Al Qaeda. And now this outrageous stream of comments. There are probably numerous people out there right now who would try to argue that they would be justified using violence. The leftā€™s own Bernie Bros were fascist by your definitions. And the toxicity they exhibited towards Clinton and her supporters was very nasty. Double standards. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/397 "2016-08-12T19:38:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Friedman in the [New York Times](http://nyti.ms/2aTNn3N) same goofy story from Dershowitz too. he even added legal hogwash to his rant. ha! no relevance w/ either. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/398 "2016-08-12T19:40:33Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > What a tired, failed attempt of a meme. Not surprising to see from someone on the left which barely likes 1/5th of the first. Apparently itā€™s easier to attack someone pointing out how your side wants to erase the first half of the second rather than explain how you think the second would apply in your sentence: > [@](#): > > And the president acting alone canā€™t do much. We have a congress, courts, a military, obstinate state governors, sanctuary cities, and the 2nd amendment. ---
**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/399 "2016-08-12T19:44:38Z")
August 1 ā€œSheā€™s the devil.ā€ August 5 ā€œSheā€™s a monster.ā€ August 9 ā€œHillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick --if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I donā€™t know.ā€ August 9 ā€œShe said about me not so long ago, my tone, she said I donā€™t like his tone [ā€¦] I think itā€™s time maybe for a little tougher tone, folks, in all fairness. Time for a tougher tone.ā€ Trump is not an idiot. He is not joking. He is not speaking off the cuff. He is building a frightening narrative using dangerous rhetoric. This is the point where he has stepped over the line. He and his followers are really starting to scare me. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/400 "2016-08-12T19:46:57Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Apparently itā€™s easier to attack someone pointing out how your side wants to erase the first half of the second rather than explain how you think the second would apply in your sentence: Whatā€™s the purpose of the Constitution again? Why are there checks and balances? Why are other non-government institutions quite powerful? These are all hedges against consolidation of power, obviously. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283.md?page=21)