# Donald Trump winks and nods to the Second Amendment people **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 9, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283 "2016-08-09T22:03:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/61 "2016-08-10T01:41:49Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Maybe we’ll get lucky here… > > \*Threats against Clinton are covered by a special section of the U.S. criminal law code given her status as the wife of a former president and a major party presidential nominee. > > Secret Service communications director Cathy Milhoan said to NBC News that the “Secret Service is aware of the comments,” regarding Trump’s remarks.\* > > [Trump's gun comment interpreted as violent threat against Clinton](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/09/trump-suggests-hillary-be-shot-in-speech-clinton-camp-calls-remarks-dangerous.html) > > Lock him up…lock him up… The Secret Service is admirably professional - if I were the Secret Service Communications Director I’d probably write my resignation letter before saying “well, if anyone takes a pot shot at Trump, we are planning to duck and let you hit him - cause we don’t really want to be risking our lives for someone who thinks so little of ours.” ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/62 "2016-08-10T01:46:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I guess it’s your lucky day! I honestly don’t see where anyone who has invested their life, their career, and possibly even a child here in America… I can’t see where anyone who has a stake in the future of America in any way at all… can call today… a lucky day. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/63 "2016-08-10T01:53:09Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > I don’t think Trump was genuinely suggesting the someone murder Clinton. It’s a jokey sort of statement, the sort of tasteless, tacky thing that assholes like him love to say to each other. I disagree. Trump seems like a narcissist with a very fragile ego. He can’t handle the fact that he is losing. Are we just going to say ‘oh he was just joking’ every time he suggests something illegal, immoral and against America’s interests? When he encourages Russia to engage in cyberwarfare against the US? When he calls for the assassination of his political enemies? When he compliments dictators? Where does it end? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/64 "2016-08-10T01:55:26Z")
For some reason, I am thinking about the story of when Reagan was shot, and he joked with the doctor that he hoped he was a Republican, and the doctor said something like “Today, Mr. President, we are all Republicans.” No, Hillary is not yet elected, and I hope when she is she remains quite, quite safe. I hope she is never in a position to joke with the doctor tending her after an assassination attempt. But now, I feel like the GOP nominee has taken us just a little closer to that day. The 2nd Amendment solution he joked about was no doubt heard clearly by someone out there who agrees with him. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/65 "2016-08-10T02:05:23Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I’ve listened to his comment several times now. Keeping it the context of his speech, it’s really hard to imagine he meant anything other than suggesting someone use a gun to prevent Hillary from appointing judges that may be unfavorable to Second Amendment protections. > > Spin it any way you like, that’s what he meant. In fairness, it could also be interpreted to suggest an armed uprising against the government rather than an assassination. I mean, that doesn’t make it better, but I think that’s a valid interpretation in context as well. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/66 "2016-08-10T02:08:53Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Maybe we’ll get lucky here… > > \*Threats against Clinton are covered by a special section of the U.S. criminal law code given her status as the wife of a former president and a major party presidential nominee. > > Secret Service communications director Cathy Milhoan said to NBC News that the “Secret Service is aware of the comments,” regarding Trump’s remarks.\* > > [Trump's gun comment interpreted as violent threat against Clinton](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/09/trump-suggests-hillary-be-shot-in-speech-clinton-camp-calls-remarks-dangerous.html) > > Lock him up…lock him up… I hope he’s at least taken in for questioning, and I hope the fuckwad resists. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/67 "2016-08-10T02:14:27Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I hope he’s at least taken in for questioning, and I hope the fuckwad resists. Even if they handcuff him, he’ll just slip those tiny hands free and be _gone_, man… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/68 "2016-08-10T02:14:38Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > In fairness, it could also be interpreted to suggest an armed uprising against the government rather than an assassination. I mean, that doesn’t make it better, but I think that’s a valid interpretation in context as well. Isn’t that still inciting an armed revolt? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/69 "2016-08-10T02:15:51Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > Isn’t that still inciting an armed revolt? Hey, I didn’t say it was any better! Just that it could be interpreted as just violence against Clinton vs. violence against the government. Hannity claimed on Foxnews that “nobody in the room” interpreted Trump’s statement as one of violence. I say bullshit, and the proof is in the video. Look at the older man in the red shirt right behind trump. As soon as he utters the line, he clearly turns to his (wife?) and looks at her in a way that shows he knew exactly what Trump was saying, and it didn’t have anything to do with unification. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/70 "2016-08-10T02:16:25Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I disagree. Trump seems like a narcissist with a very fragile ego. He can’t handle the fact that he is losing. Are we just going to say ‘oh he was just joking’ every time he suggests something illegal, immoral and against America’s interests? When he encourages Russia to engage in cyberwarfare against the US? When he calls for the assassination of his political enemies? When he compliments dictators? Where does it end? You know, they excuse-spin the public comments he makes on live national television. What happens when he says reckless passing thoughts in private? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/71 "2016-08-10T02:17:28Z")
A former Secret Service agent is vigorously defending Trump, gets called a liar on the air by Don Lemon and calls Clinton a “gun-grabber”. Oh, he’s running for office in Florida. Viva la Florida! ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/72 "2016-08-10T02:20:54Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Hey, I didn’t say it was any better! Just that it could be interpreted as just violence against Clinton vs. violence against the government. > > Hannity claimed on Foxnews that “nobody in the room” interpreted Trump’s statement as one of violence. I say bullshit, and the proof is in the video. Look at the older man in the red shirt right behind trump. As soon as he utters the line, he clearly turns to his (wife?) and looks at her in a way that shows he knew exactly what Trump was saying, and it didn’t have anything to do with unification. I wish I could see more footage from the audience to see more reactions. But anyway, it’ll be interesting to see the news tomorrow and who else dumps Trump due to this latest gaff. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/73 "2016-08-10T02:20:56Z")
Trump Supporter: ‘I like Trump because he says what he means’ Trump: ‘Shoot my opponent’ Trump Supporter: ‘He didn’t mean what he said’ ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/74 "2016-08-10T02:45:46Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > I wish I could see more footage from the audience to see more reactions. Done. Thank the internet. [https://twitter.com/PiercedSkull/status/763136634002997248](https://twitter.com/PiercedSkull/status/763136634002997248) I don’t think Donald Trump was calling for higher voter turnout and neither did the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/75 "2016-08-10T02:49:58Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > I am waiting to see who, from the right, repudiates him tonight, and who stays silent with approval. Lookin at Ryan and McConnell. Say, Paul, is an assassination threat over [that “line” of yours](http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/05/trump-plans-to-endorse-ryan-according-to-sources/88302412/)? > [@](#): > > Ryan told his radio hosts this week that his own endorsement of Trump is not a “blank check,” but refused to speculate on what Trump could say that could cause him to withdraw his support for the GOP nominee. > > “Where that line gets crossed, I don’t know where that is,” he told Sykes. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/76 "2016-08-10T02:55:50Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > He’s a circus clown It’s hopeless to expect the Republicans to nominate anyone who isn’t a clown, but could they at least go for more Clarabelle and Bozo and Ronald McDonald and less Pennywise and Joker and Sideshow Bob? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/77 "2016-08-10T03:13:22Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > I’d be happy to be proven **adaher** on this one. Stop this. Right now. It will vex me greatly to see this sort of thing again. Do not mock other posters in such a way. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/78 "2016-08-10T03:20:32Z")
> **[Anyone who thinks Trump was "just joking" about shooting Clinton is missing...](https://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12417100/donald-trump-assassinate-hillary-clinton-joke)** > > At a Tuesday rally, Donald Trump said something that could easily be interpreted as a call for violence against a future Clinton administration. > "Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the... Trump is trying to legitimize criminal behavior (Russia spying on the US, assassination of politicians) among his supporters, but trying to make it sound like a joke to his detractors. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/79 "2016-08-10T03:25:51Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Stop this. Right now. It will vex me greatly to see this sort of thing again. Do not mock other posters in such a way. I sincerely apologize. I honestly did not mean it in a mean or mocking fashion, merely in a friendly manner, and **adaher** seems to have taken such gentle ribbing in the past in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283/80 "2016-08-10T03:41:46Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > [Anyone who thinks Trump was “just joking” about shooting Clinton is missing the point | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12417100/donald-trump-assassinate-hillary-clinton-joke) > > Trump is trying to legitimize criminal behavior (Russia spying on the US, assassination of politicians) among his supporters, but trying to make it sound like a joke to his detractors. There’s something to this. On the one hand he and his surrogates have spent all afternoon claiming it was just a joke-- come on, you silly billies! Jokey!-- [but then at a rally in Fayetteville, he tells his supporters that it’s time to take a “tougher tone” against Hillary](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-tougher-tone-clinton-second-amendment-controversy-226845). > [@](#): > > in the Middle East they’re chopping off heads, they’re drowning people in steel cages, they’re burying people in the sand and she doesn’t like my tone. I think it’s time maybe for a little tougher tone, folks, in all fairness. Time for a tougher tone. So was that call for a Second Amendment solution just a joke, or a serious pivot towards a “tougher tone?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-winks-and-nods-to-the-second-amendment-people/762283.md?page=5)