# Donald Trump Wins Electoral College Election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 19, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191 "2016-12-19T23:18:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/21 "2016-12-20T02:04:25Z")
I’m glad we’re past this point. I really don’t like that so many electors received threats regarding their vote. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/22 "2016-12-20T02:13:42Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > So, friends, what’s next on the “I hate Trump and don’t want him to be president” menu? Ask Congress to refuse to certify the electoral college vote totals? Lobby Chief Justice Roberts to refuse to administer the oath of office? Hope he misspeaks while reciting the oath? Hope the democrats in the senate filibuster all his destructive legislation. Encourage city governments, state governments, state attorney generals who lean left to fight against Trump and tie him up in the courts and create tons of red tape to block him. I think the large cities (Chicago, NY, SF, LA, etc) and the state governments in places like California will play a big role in resisting Trump. Lawsuits, criminal charges, red tape, etc. Encourage activist groups, constitution groups, etc. to create as many lawsuits, protests and hassles as possible. Do what we can to ensure accountability, transparency and punishments for corrupt, criminal or unconstitutional behavior. And there will be a lot of this. I do hope liberals rise to the occasion. Liberals on the whole tend to be fairly involved, activist people. So I hope we do something to mitigate the damage of the next 4-8 years. Hope the fact that of the 1000 or so federal judges in the US, about 700 of them were appointed by Clinton and Obama means the judiciary will be friendly to attempts to hamstring Trump and the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/23 "2016-12-20T02:26:23Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Hope the democrats in the senate filibuster all his destructive legislation. Could always get rid of the filibuster. That precedent has been set. > [@](#): > > Encourage city governments, state governments, state attorney generals who lean left to fight against Trump and tie him up in the courts and create tons of red tape to block him. I think the large cities (Chicago, NY, SF, LA, etc) and the state governments in places like California will play a big role in resisting Trump. Lawsuits, criminal charges, red tape, etc. The federal power to tax income can make life pretty rough for regions that don’t follow federal law. Withholding that money is not a new tactic. > [@](#): > > Encourage activist groups, constitution groups, etc. to create as many lawsuits, protests and hassles as possible. > > Do what we can to ensure accountability, transparency and punishments for corrupt, criminal or unconstitutional behavior. And there will be a lot of this. > > I do hope liberals rise to the occasion. Liberals on the whole tend to be fairly involved, activist people. So I hope we do something to mitigate the damage of the next 4-8 years. > > Hope the fact that of the 1000 or so federal judges in the US, about 700 of them were appointed by Clinton and Obama means the judiciary will be friendly to attempts to hamstring Trump and the GOP. Politics is going to be fun in this hyper-partisan atmosphere. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/24 "2016-12-20T02:34:30Z")
> [@ultimate11](#): > > In my perspective, there was no doubt Trump was winning the electoral college election. I was sure that that would be 1 or 2 votes that Trump wouldn’t get, and more sure that Clinton wasn’t immune to losing electoral votes too. I’ve got a source via [NPR](http://www.npr.org/2016/12/19/506188169/donald-trump-poised-to-secure-electoral-college-win-with-few-surprises). (I’m surprised I was the only person to think that way). Regardless, I knew the election was over after November 9th, much as everyone wanted the election to turn, it wasn’t going to happen. I knew it right away, and I’m ashamed at people who think otherwise. Undaunted by frustrated prior expectations, Captain Obvious makes yet another run at the Pulitzer. Perhaps this will be the year. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/25 "2016-12-20T02:45:02Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Rather it speaks volumes about the continual attempts of sore loser Democrats to de-legitimize Trump’s election. Some of them are even blaming Hillary Clinton for not backing them in their pathetic efforts. She at least had more sense. Haters gonna hate. And the fact remains that D’Rump had _two_ faithless electors, which is twice as many as any winning candidate since 1808. The number may have even been higher had the Dems not made so much noise. The five faithless Clinton electors were clearly rebelling against the Electoral system itself. (Faith Spotted Eagle? C’mon!) They knew their candidate lost so it didn’t matter. But the two solid red electors who rejected Trump obviously felt that they _really_ didn’t want Trump as president. And these are members of his own party that D’Rump must somehow find a way to lead. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/26 "2016-12-20T02:49:21Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > So, friends, what’s next on the “I hate Trump and don’t want him to be president” menu? Ask Congress to refuse to certify the electoral college vote totals? Lobby Chief Justice Roberts to refuse to administer the oath of office? Hope he misspeaks while reciting the oath? Hope that his life of debauchery and poor diet leads to a massive stroke and he spends the remainder of his days bedridden and unable to move, watching Melania service Bill Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/27 "2016-12-20T02:51:27Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Could always get rid of the filibuster. That precedent has been set. Go ahead, the GOP will not be in the majority forever. > [@octopus](#): > > The federal power to tax income can make life pretty rough for regions that don’t follow federal law. Withholding that money is not a new tactic. Texas threw up a lot of roadblocks to Obama, California will do the same to Trump. The cities and states can and will refuse to cooperate. Several of the cities have already said they will pass up federal funding if need be to uphold their values. State government, city government, attorney generals, etc. can drag Trump’s agenda down and stall/slow/stop many of his agendas. If Trump does something like pull out of Paris climate agreement, then cities and states can voluntarily adopt the rules w/o the federal government. That is what they did when Bush didn’t support Kyoto. Private companies are refusing to help Trump create a muslim registry. There will be pushback on multiple levels to Trump and the GOP. > [@octopus](#): > > Politics is going to be fun in this hyper-partisan atmosphere. Yes. When the GOP is the minority, they can obstruct 100% of everything, but when the dems are the minority they are expected to be cooperative. What Trump and the GOP wants to do is 90% destructive and needs to be stopped. ---
**Author:** ![ultimate11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/49beb7/32.png) [@ultimate11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultimate11)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/28 "2016-12-20T02:59:21Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Undaunted by frustrated prior expectations, Captain Obvious makes yet another run at the Pulitzer. Perhaps this will be the year. Well I’m stating the obvious, but unfortunately, as I’ve seen in this board, people still don’t believe it. People just make up rumors it’s not over, the election is going to change at December 19th, etc. Do I believe that? I don’t. Some do. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/29 "2016-12-20T03:34:19Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > It speaks volumes about Trump’s qualifications, or rather lack thereof, that this is even headline news. In every other election, the EC vote is just a formality. Actually, it speaks volumes about liberal hysteria, not Trump or his qualifications. Just like the whole California becoming its own country silliness. Slee ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/30 "2016-12-20T03:45:10Z")
Say what you will about liberals getting hysterical; at least they didn’t elect Donald Trump to the Presidency. Conservatives getting hysterical bear the responsibility for that. Which means the Republican party has now tied its future to how good a job Trump is going to do. Four years from now, Republicans may be looking back on this day as one of their worst defeats. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/31 "2016-12-20T03:50:25Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Actually, it speaks volumes about liberal hysteria, not Trump or his qualifications. Really? Is it just liberals who see him as utterly unqualified to be President? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/32 "2016-12-20T03:52:24Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Actually, it speaks volumes about liberal hysteria, not Trump or his qualifications. > > Just like the whole California becoming its own country silliness. > > Slee To be fair, Trump is worth being a little hysterical about. He’s promised: To torture people, to kill the families of terrorists, to deport millions, to institute a religious test to enter the country, default on our debt, to balloon the deficit by trillions, ignore climate change, and a bunch of other stuff. He’s not Romney or McCain. He’s actually an evil, vindictive pissant. And he’s got a congress ready to send him stuff to sign. He might be reined in by congress, but the GOP congress has, in the last few years, been beholden to goofballs. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/33 "2016-12-20T04:18:44Z")
Breaking news: The presidency of the United States of America is now, officially, a joke. Congratulations all around. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/34 "2016-12-20T04:45:58Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Go ahead, the GOP will not be in the majority forever. > > Texas threw up a lot of roadblocks to Obama, California will do the same to Trump. The cities and states can and will refuse to cooperate. Several of the cities have already said they will pass up federal funding if need be to uphold their values. > > State government, city government, attorney generals, etc. can drag Trump’s agenda down and stall/slow/stop many of his agendas. If Trump does something like pull out of Paris climate agreement, then cities and states can voluntarily adopt the rules w/o the federal government. That is what they did when Bush didn’t support Kyoto. > > Private companies are refusing to help Trump create a muslim registry. There will be pushback on multiple levels to Trump and the GOP. > > Yes. When the GOP is the minority, they can obstruct 100% of everything, but when the dems are the minority they are expected to be cooperative. What Trump and the GOP wants to do is 90% destructive and needs to be stopped. Just for the record you are a fan of gridlock and states’ rights now? ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/35 "2016-12-20T05:40:41Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > So, friends, what’s next on the “I hate Trump and don’t want him to be president” menu? Ask Congress to refuse to certify the electoral college vote totals? Lobby Chief Justice Roberts to refuse to administer the oath of office? Hope he misspeaks while reciting the oath? Let hope for a smooth transition to the next _faux_ scandal. Maybe a combination of Polynesian Hackers and the Peruvian Guano Cartel, determined to propel Trump to the White House. > [@alphaboi867](#): > > I’m amused that neither faithless Trump elector voted for Pence. 🆒 Neither did any of Clinton’s electors actually mange to vote for Sanders. Hawaii went for Sanders from the 5 Hillary faithless; and one of the 2 Trump faithless went for the aged loon Ron Paul, who would be just as bad as Pence. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > Hope that his life of debauchery and poor diet leads to a massive stroke and he spends the remainder of his days bedridden and unable to move, watching Melania service Bill Clinton. I seem to remember you expressed something similar before, with a different actor, perhaps Obama ? Most amusing. And liberals wonder why they are historically despised. A wholesome mix of crudity and utter cruelty. > [@Lobohan](#): > > To be fair, Trump is worth being a little hysterical about. He’s promised: To torture people, to kill the families of terrorists, to deport millions… Old Obama’s already doing all that stuff. Let’s hope Trump discontinues Terror Tuesdays. Although I do think Trump, probably bored with such duties, maybe appoints the wretched Obama as Dronemaster General and allows him to come in one day a week to continue his favourite pastime of killing some folks. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/36 "2016-12-20T05:44:00Z")
> [@jshore](#): > > Really? Is it just liberals who see him as utterly unqualified to be President? Quite a few Republicans let it be known that \*they \*considered Trump unqualified. Of course, most came crawling back to him later They will remain loyal–at least until after the Inauguration. If Trump gets even more bonkers, let the impeachment proceedings begin. They will be shocked to discover conflict of interest, Russian influence, etc. He might even resign rather than fight it out–Nixon did. Next, President Pence. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/37 "2016-12-20T10:27:28Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Actually, it speaks volumes about liberal hysteria, not Trump or his qualifications. How does liberal hysteria cause Texas electors to publicly state that Trump’s not “biblically qualified” to be president? And considering all that Trump’s promised to do and all that he’s done so far, hysteria is a far more logical reaction that burying your head in the sand. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/38 "2016-12-20T11:48:50Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > And liberals wonder why they are historically despised. A wholesome mix of crudity and utter cruelty. Liberals are “historically despised” by conservatives who have been forced to stop doing things like polluting the air and water, forcing people to work in unsafe conditions, discriminating against people based on race, religion or gender, and sending in armies of hired goons to beat up union members. Because liberals are mean like that. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/39 "2016-12-20T13:12:56Z")
> [@drewder](#): > > I’m glad we’re past this point. I really don’t like that so many electors received threats regarding their vote. How many? ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191/40 "2016-12-20T13:15:45Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Quite a few Republicans let it be known that \*they \*considered Trump unqualified. Of course, most came crawling back to him later They will remain loyal–at least until after the Inauguration. If Trump gets even more bonkers, let the impeachment proceedings begin. They will be shocked to discover conflict of interest, Russian influence, etc. He might even resign rather than fight it out–Nixon did. > > Next, President Pence. Quoted for future reference. You guys and gals have really lost your minds since the election. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trump-wins-electoral-college-election/775191.md?page=3)