# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2021 "2016-06-29T16:14:50Z")

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48 hours on, still awaiting a statement from the Trump campaign about the Supreme Court abortion ruling.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2022 "2016-06-29T16:19:19Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> “[The Trump Twitter account is making up supporters out of thin air.](http://www.cracked.com/blog/trump-having-twitter-conversations-with-fake-accounts/)”
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> So, apparently some of the people who DT has quoted in his tweets have inactive or robot Twitter accounts. In this article, a couple of the people he quoted have no tweets to their accounts, and one of the ones he quotes is nothing but a twitter account that re-posts DJT tweets.
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> I have no idea what the hell this means or why this would happen. Surely his team can find a real person to respond to when they want to promote their message… right?

Well, when they go with messages they believe in, they end up retweeting white supremacists.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2023 "2016-06-29T16:19:48Z")

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I’m waiting to hear Trump say that Turkey shouldn’t let any Muslims in.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2024 "2016-06-29T16:34:27Z")

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[Add Denmark and Finland to the list of countries Trump is seeking illegal donations from MPs thereof.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-fundraising-emails-foreign-members-parliament)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2025 "2016-06-29T16:42:16Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Well, in Donald’s defense: do you think there are actually any proceeds from Trump: The Board Game?

Er…

:smack:

I will admit, it was purchased for me as a gift. I don’t think I ever played it.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2026 "2016-06-29T16:52:45Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> If a corporate executive of a publicly traded company made misleading statements about the finances of their organization, the SEC would (in theory) open an investigation and possibly sanction the guy and his company.
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> Does anyone know if there is such a mechanism for the FEC?

I doubt it and the situations are not comparable. I would assume only misleading stuff on their actual FEC filings would get them in trouble not press releases.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2027 "2016-06-29T16:57:51Z")

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I don’t see how the situations are not comparable, but OK. Anything else other than doubts and assumptions?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2028 "2016-06-29T17:05:50Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Er…
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> :smack:
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> I will admit, it was purchased for me as a gift. I don’t think I ever played it.

What a strange game. The only way to win is not to pay.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2029 "2016-06-29T17:06:01Z")

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Well they’re not comparable because bragging about fundraising is not like misleading stock purchasers. No one is going to vote Trump because he had a successful spam campaign but people might buy stock in a company that brags about earnings.

If you can find an FEC regulation regarding misleading/wrong info press releases then I will abandon my doubts and assumptions. I haven’t come across any mention of such a regulation.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2030 "2016-06-29T17:13:09Z")

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I have sent an inquiry to the FEC. I eagerly await their answer. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2031 "2016-06-29T17:49:13Z")

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Campaigns build a ton of momentum off of successful fundraising. People are more willing to get excited about and involved with a campaign that’s making tons of money, because that means they’re joining a large group of like minded people. Everyone loves a winner.

So I can see similarities, but that doesn’t mean the FEC will care or that the lies are even in its purview.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2032 "2016-06-29T18:14:20Z")

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[While Trump was making his “trade” speech yesterday (in front of the pile of garbage), the US Chamber of Commerce was tweeting point by point takedowns of his points. The Donald is not happy with them.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-chamber-of-commerce-twitter-224929?cmpid=sf)

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2033 "2016-06-29T18:45:56Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Can we officially stop respecting the religious right’s opinion on anything if they hypocritically support Trump?

You may certainly disrespect it, but you must never ignore it.

The evangelicals show up to vote (including in off-year elections) and are a significant percentage of the electorate. You ignore their power at your own peril.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2034 "2016-06-29T19:00:03Z")

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Nate Silver says Hillary is 79% likely to win in November: [Nate Silver: Hillary Clinton has a near 80 percent chance of winning the election](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/29/nate-silver-hillary-clinton-has-a-near-80-percent-chance-of-win/21421192/)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2035 "2016-06-29T19:55:02Z")

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I can’t get to the actual\* Los Angeles Times\* page reporting the article because I have apparently reached my monthly free limits, but [Bipartisan Report is reporting that the Times has published an article about how Trump defrauded investors in a Mexican land scheme.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/29/breaking-l-a-times-drops-donald-trump-bombshell-new-scandal-left-retirees-homeless-details/)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2036 "2016-06-29T19:57:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I can’t get to the actual\* Los Angeles Times\* page reporting the article because I have apparently reached my monthly free limits, but [Bipartisan Report is reporting that the Times has published an article about how Trump defrauded investors in a Mexican land scheme.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/29/breaking-l-a-times-drops-donald-trump-bombshell-new-scandal-left-retirees-homeless-details/)

[Here ya go (LA Times story at link).](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-baja-snap-story.html)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2037 "2016-06-29T19:59:53Z")

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Thanks, but I can’t read it because of the monthly limit, I can get there, they just won’t let me see it.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2038 "2016-06-29T20:05:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Thanks, but I can’t read it because of the monthly limit, I can get there, they just won’t let me see it.

I knew that when I posted the link. I didn’t think you were posting links for yourself; I thought you were posting them for other people and you posted the link you did because you were unable to obtain the URL for the LA Times story directly.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2039 "2016-06-29T20:07:22Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I have sent an inquiry to the FEC. I eagerly await their answer. 🙂

They quickly replied:

> [@](#):
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> Mr. (JohnT) -
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> There are no FEC regulations that prohibit political **mendacity** outside of official filings, which are subject to the penalties of 52 U.S.C. 30109.
> 
> Thank you for contacting the FEC. If you have further questions, I encourage you to call our Information Division at 800.424.9530 (press 6 when prompted), or e-mail us at [info@fec.gov](mailto:info@fec.gov).

So they can verbally lie all they want, as long as they don’t do so in official filings. Good to know. 🙂

Also, new word of the day!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2040 "2016-06-29T20:08:43Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Thanks, but I can’t read it because of the monthly limit, I can get there, they just won’t let me see it.

I only read the Bipartisan summary of the complaint, but calling it “fraud” sounds like a bit of a stretch. As is his usual MO, Trump plasters his name all over a project without actually doing anything. In this case, the project went belly-up and people lost their shirts. The lawsuit seems to be claiming that his “involvement” was some guarantee of low-risk high-reward…I don’t think that’ll fly in court.

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