# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 103
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2041 "2016-06-29T20:13:43Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > So they can verbally lie all they want, as long as they don’t do so in official filings. Good to know. 🙂 Not only verbally, but they can also lie using interpretive dance, hand gestures, and smug looks on their faces. The modalities for lying are almost endless. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2042 "2016-06-29T20:36:07Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I only read the Bipartisan summary of the complaint, but calling it “fraud” sounds like a bit of a stretch. As is his usual MO, Trump plasters his name all over a project without actually doing anything. In this case, the project went belly-up and people lost their shirts. The lawsuit seems to be claiming that his “involvement” was some guarantee of low-risk high-reward…I don’t think that’ll fly in court. As per the article, weren’t potential-buyers-turned-actual-buyers also told that some of the units had already been bought – specifically, _by Trumps_ – when, no, the Trump in question didn’t purchase a single one, regardless of any claims to the contrary? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2043 "2016-06-29T20:40:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I can’t get to the actual\* Los Angeles Times\* page reporting the article because I have apparently reached my monthly free limits, but [Bipartisan Report is reporting that the Times has published an article about how Trump defrauded investors in a Mexican land scheme.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/29/breaking-l-a-times-drops-donald-trump-bombshell-new-scandal-left-retirees-homeless-details/) Oh, so _that’s_ how he’s gonna make them pay for the wall – land fraud schemes! ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2044 "2016-06-29T21:19:15Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I only read the Bipartisan summary of the complaint, but calling it “fraud” sounds like a bit of a stretch. As is his usual MO, Trump plasters his name all over a project without actually doing anything. In this case, the project went belly-up and people lost their shirts. The lawsuit seems to be claiming that his “involvement” was some guarantee of low-risk high-reward…I don’t think that’ll fly in court. Unless he claimed to be a developer when he was not, as the suit alleges. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2045 "2016-06-29T21:30:12Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > Not only verbally, but they can also lie using interpretive dance, hand gestures, and smug looks on their faces. The modalities for lying are almost endless. This is good to know, almost as good as being reintroduced to the word “mendacity.” I would love to see the Trump campaign submit their next filings using interpretive dance - it probably has as much to do with the real truth as anything they would put on paper. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2046 "2016-06-30T00:10:53Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Looks like he’s asking Mike Tyson and Mike Ditka to speak at the convention. > > Tyson is a convicted rapist and even the most die hard Bears fan wants Ditka to shut up. > [http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/285265-trump-campaign-slating-major-sports-figures-for](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/285265-trump-campaign-slating-major-sports-figures-for) [Ditka declines convention invite, slams Republicans for not getting behind Trump.](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-mike-ditka-donald-trump-republican-convention0-630-chicago-inc-20160629-story.html) "Still, he (Ditka) said, “The Republican Party has its head up its ass — if he’s the candidate, you’ve got to get behind him. It does the party no good. They’re a bunch of assholes.” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2047 "2016-06-30T00:20:32Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > [Ditka declines convention invite, slams Republicans for not getting behind Trump.](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-mike-ditka-donald-trump-republican-convention0-630-chicago-inc-20160629-story.html) Sorry, but _which_ one is the pile of garbage again? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2048 "2016-06-30T00:38:53Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > Not only verbally, but they can also lie using interpretive dance, hand gestures, and smug looks on their faces. The modalities for lying are almost endless. Oh please. Oh Please. Is there some way that we can plant the idea in his head that he should do some of his campaign speeches using interpretive dance? That would be the best thing ever, especially if other Republicans then started doing the same thing in an effort to make him look normal. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2049 "2016-06-30T00:59:10Z")
[http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146605145036/persuasion-update-clinton-vs-trump](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146605145036/persuasion-update-clinton-vs-trump) Heh. Scott Adams is now trying to walk back his prediction of Trump victory. Basically, Adams is claiming that Trump is losing due to media bias and unfair accusations of racism and irrational behavior against him. Well, Scott, when someone asks me for a job, and he tells me three different contradictory stories about what his plans are, I’m gonna think he’s either evil or crazy or both. Yeah, I’ve been had. I thought Adams was prescient, but now it seems like he’s just another wingnut indulging in magical thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2050 "2016-06-30T01:04:52Z")
> [@](#): > > A report late Tuesday that Donald Trump is lining up Mike Ditka to make a star appearance at the Republican National Convention came as no surprise to anybody — except Da Coach himself. > > And when the presumptive GOP presidential nominee finally got around to inviting Ditka on Wednesday afternoon, the 76-year-old Chicago Bears legend politely declined the offer. This is sloppy work, an amateur move on the part of Trump and/or his campaign staff. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2051 "2016-06-30T01:05:30Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Er… > > :smack: > > I will admit, it was purchased for me as a gift. I don’t think I ever played it. Hilarious! Do you still have it? Go play it for Science! Found a commercial for it: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OdY31mDsBmU/hqdefault.jpg "Donald Trump: The Game (1988)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdY31mDsBmU) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2052 "2016-06-30T01:08:11Z")
[It takes a rare kind of asshole to make the AFL-CIO _and_ the U.S. Chamber of Commerce think you’re a worthless piece of shit.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/29/trump-chamber-of-commerce-afl-cio-nafta-trans-pacific-partnership/86506738/) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2053 "2016-06-30T01:18:04Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Er… > > :smack: > > I will admit, it was purchased for me as a gift. I don’t think I ever played it. Hold onto that, as it may be worth something someday. I still wish I’d bought and kept a six-pack of Billy Beer 40 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2054 "2016-06-30T01:26:34Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > [http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146605145036/persuasion-update-clinton-vs-trump](http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146605145036/persuasion-update-clinton-vs-trump) > > Heh. > > Scott Adams is now trying to walk back his prediction of Trump victory. Basically, Adams is claiming that Trump is losing due to media bias and unfair accusations of racism and irrational behavior against him… The _Dilbert_ creator is saying nice things about The Donald? Ugh. I thought better of him than that. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2055 "2016-06-30T01:26:51Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [It takes a rare kind of asshole to make the AFL-CIO _and_ the U.S. Chamber of Commerce think you’re a worthless piece of shit.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/29/trump-chamber-of-commerce-afl-cio-nafta-trans-pacific-partnership/86506738/) Well, this speech apparently had actual substance and thought behind it, which is a step forward for him, and may soothe a little establishment Republcians who now know such a Trump is at least possible (although his message in this one is one they won’t generally like). Still, like I’ve said before, this isn’t the Trump that gets media attention or his followers really excited, so I do wonder how much good such moments are really going to do him. ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2056 "2016-06-30T02:15:02Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > This is sloppy work, an amateur move on the part of Trump and/or his campaign staff. Mike would have done it, but right now he is too busy with his latest business venture, [Mike Ditka’s ProstatePM](https://www.ispot.tv/ad/AGwK/mike-ditkas-prostatepm-in-control-featuring-mike-ditka). I am not making this up. I actually fell kind of sorry for him, but the guy’s gotta make a living. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2057 "2016-06-30T03:36:03Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > Mike would have done it, but right now he is too busy with his latest business venture, [Mike Ditka’s ProstatePM](https://www.ispot.tv/ad/AGwK/mike-ditkas-prostatepm-in-control-featuring-mike-ditka). I am not making this up. I actually fell kind of sorry for him, but the guy’s gotta make a living. If I may shift gears for a moment, fellas: Da 2004 New England Patriots vs. Mike Ditka’s swollen prostate. Who would win, and what would be da final score? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2058 "2016-06-30T03:37:40Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > If I may shift gears for a moment, fellas: Da 2004 New England Patriots vs. Mike Ditka’s swollen prostate. Who would win, and what would be da final score? Dikka. 73-0. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2059 "2016-06-30T05:49:40Z")
Trump University wasn’t his only “educational” effort. “Trump Institute Offered Get-Rich Schemes With Plagiarized Lessons” [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/us/politics/donald-trump-institute-plagiarism.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/us/politics/donald-trump-institute-plagiarism.html) > [@](#): > > But Mr. Trump also lent his name, and his credibility, to a seminar business he did not own, which was branded the Trump Institute. Its operators rented out hotel ballrooms across the country and invited people to pay up to $2,000 to come hear Mr. Trump’s “wealth-creating secrets and strategies.” > … > Mr. Trump did little, interviews show, besides appear in an infomercial — one that promised customers access to his vast accumulated knowledge. “I put all of my concepts that have worked so well for me, new and old, into our seminar,” he said in the 2005 video, adding, “I’m teaching what I’ve learned.” > > Reality fell far short. In fact, the institute was run by a couple who had run afoul of regulators in dozens of states and had been dogged by accusations of deceptive business practices and fraud for decades. > … > Extensive portions of the materials that students received after paying their seminar fees, supposedly containing Mr. Trump’s special wisdom, had been plagiarized from an obscure real estate manual published a decade earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2060 "2016-06-30T06:24:05Z")
The NRA is running an ad attacking Hillary and endorsing Trump. The ad was apparently filmed in a VA cemetery. Which is in violation of VA policy, and [caused the VA to condemn the ad](http://abcnews.go.com/US/nra-ad-supporting-donald-trump-appears-filmed-inside/story?id=40227403). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=102) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=104)