# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2663 "2016-07-15T19:04:04Z")
Trump can’t catch a break. He is doing everything he can to throw this campaign, but the mooks are eating it up and won’t let him out. It’s like _The Producers_, with twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2664 "2016-07-15T19:05:21Z")
I get all the jokes, but I have to say my first thought about the new Trump/Pence logo wasn’t that it was sexually suggestive. Just seemed bleh. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2665 "2016-07-15T19:09:39Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Normally, a candidate gets a bounce in the polls after announcing a running mate. > > It seems to me that Trump is unlikely to get much of one, since his announcement is massively overshadowed by the tragedy in Nice, and also because his running mate is pure white-bread milquetoast, unlikely to appeal to any but a specific set of white, evangelical “Christians.” AS the convention is about to start, and that will move the polls one way or another, we probably wouldn’t noptice a Pence bounce anyway. He is hideously boring, to be sure. Just what Trump wanted. Someone to do his bidding. Am I the only person who thinks of the tricket as “Trumppence”? It sounds like a British word for some obscure coin or monetary unit back when they had the weird non-decimal system I still don’t understand. “I say, Clusterfield, nip on down to the Gorn and Scrimble and fetch us some spotted dick, won’t you? Theirs is marvelous, and is but four Trumppence!” ETA: “Tricket” was a typo, but like “scampaign” it suits them. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2666 "2016-07-15T19:46:14Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > In an interview will Bill O’Reilly, Trump says he’ll declare war on ISIS. Not wage war; actually issue a declaration of war. > > So to whom do you deliver the declaration of war? Does ISIS have an embassy in Washington and ambassadors you can expel? So, am I to assume that Donald Trump wants to formally grant ISIS recognition as a legitimate nation-state? Why not? He’s their top recruiter already; why not go the whole hog (!) and recognize them as legitimate? > [@Lok](#): > > Does he realize that he can’t actually declare war on anyone? No. He does not. And he will be very, very shocked when someone dares to tell him. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2667 "2016-07-15T20:13:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Why not? He’s their top recruiter already; why not go the whole hog (!) and recognize them as legitimate? > > No. He does not. And he will be very, very shocked when someone dares to tell him. And then during his State of the Union Tweet, he’ll complain how liberal politicians have ruined this country by preventing him from actually doing anything to fight the war on terror. Sad. And then his followers will rise up in revolt against…something. Probably dark-skinned people who may or may not look Muslim. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2668 "2016-07-15T21:26:16Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It’s not a tie, it’s an arrow. For a while, when I used to wear a tie to work, I always called it a Manly Pointer. My wife never found that nearly as hilarious as I did. If she had read “Good Country People”, though, she would have seen the brilliance of my humor. Or not. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2669 "2016-07-15T21:50:57Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Slight hijack: > > I’ve only seen the word “pere” written, never pronounced. Is it pronounced like “pair/pear?” It seems the consensus is yes. I speak French, so I’m never sure how non-French-speaking Americans pronounce things like that (“sans”, for example, is apparently pronounced to rhyme with “cans”, and I cannot bring myself to do that). > [@septimus](#): > > Did you read #2613, a few posts before yours? Profits would pay for airfare to the legal betting parlors. If I were not a paycheck-to-paycheck person, I would make a big enough bet to do that for sure. But I can only scrape up like thirty bucks to bet with. > [@asahi](#): > > America’s actually made a lot of progress under Obama. Unfortunately the average American doesn’t feel it and doesn’t see it, mainly because the net benefit is that, relative to where we once were, many of us are worse off than our parents. Our real wages have stagnated for decades. Employees are more disposable. Home ownership is down. Rents are up. Fuel prices are down over the last few years but higher than they’ve been for much of my lifetime. Healthcare and college tuition costs are rising much faster than inflation. Obama slowed the pace of decline, but unfortunately, that’s all he could accomplish over an 8 year period and that’s all he can really put on the wall for his legacy. What you are describing is only agreed to by a majority of white Americans. Nonwhites see a much brighter future than that. I’m white (except for my Omaha/Pawnee grandmother, who had a white mother who died young; my grandma was raised by her father on the Omaha reservation), but I agree with the nonwhites on this point. > [@RickJay](#): > > Why not? By all means send me a PM with your details and we’ll arrange a bet. What odds are you offering? And if you’re guaranteeing he won’t even be close, we could have a side bet on what “close” means and whether that will happen or not. > > Will you give me ten to one on Trump winning outright? I’ll put up $30 to win $10. Not that I don’t think the chances are better than that, but betting on favorites just doesn’t provide much to get excited about if the odds are too long against the underdog. > [@Knorf](#): > > If you were wondering which between “T” and “P” is … er, well the, uh, “bottom,” here’s the [first Trump/Pence logo](http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/15/trump-campaign-unveils-new-logo.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl). I saw this right away, before seeing this post or any commentary (saw the logo on Facebook). I guess I just have a dirty mind. 😃 ETA: Here’s a NSFW animated GIF: [spoiler][https://media.giphy.com/media/26BoDNXbPjhEynoXK/giphy.gif[/spoiler]](https://media.giphy.com/media/26BoDNXbPjhEynoXK/giphy.gif%5B/spoiler%5D) ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2670 "2016-07-15T22:14:35Z")
Apparently Trump’s team overlooked a few things before announcing - like grabbing certain domains, now owned by squatters ([trumppence.com](http://trumppence.com), trumppence.gop) and update some pinned tweets and websites. > **[13 things the Trump campaign forgot to update on the internet for his VP pick](https://mashable.com/article/trump-pence-update-internet)** > > Donald Trump, it seems, was not internet-prepared for the announcement of Mike Pence as his running mate. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2671 "2016-07-16T20:51:01Z")
[The logo is gone from sight… So is Pence.](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/logofail-trumppence-campaign-scrubs-screw-you-branding-after-one-day-of-massive-ridicule/) This campaign has been a thing, all right. If a candidate this terrible could win, then we deserve him. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2672 "2016-07-16T21:24:52Z")
[Trump believes in cutting Social Security, but won’t say so publicly.](http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-reince-priebus/) > [@](#): > > According to a source in the room, Trump criticized Ryan’s proposed entitlement cuts as unfair and politically foolish. “From a moral standpoint, I believe in it,” Trump told Ryan. “But you also have to get elected. And there’s no way a Republican is going to beat a Democrat when the Republican is saying, ‘We’re going to cut your Social Security’ and the Democrat is saying, ‘We’re going to keep it and give you more.’ ” Afterward, both sides offered platitudes, but Ryan didn’t endorse. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2673 "2016-07-16T21:32:06Z")
Ohio, hosting the RNC, gets a downgraded floor spot: [2016 Republican National Convention delegate seating chart released - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/07/republican_national_convention_10.html#incart_river_home) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2674 "2016-07-17T00:06:25Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Trump believes in cutting Social Security, but won’t say so publicly.](http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-reince-priebus/) He’s not wrong, though… ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2675 "2016-07-17T00:20:37Z")
Did they seriously play “You can’t always get what you want” before Trump’s speech announcing Pence as the running mate? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2676 "2016-07-17T00:32:51Z")
That’s what I’ve read, but can’t find any video. I also read that this song is in rotation at Trump rallies, but it seems poor timing to play it just before you make your official veep announcement, especially after all the reports that have been leaked about Trump’s waffling over Pence the past 48 hours. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2677 "2016-07-17T01:22:06Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > He’s not wrong, though… Tell that to people (like me) who rely on Social Security to, you know, not starve. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2678 "2016-07-17T01:24:12Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Tell that to people (like me) who rely on Social Security to, you know, not starve. Uh, okay, sure: Republicans want to kill Social Security, but they can’t say it, because they’d lose in massive landslides, and I’m surprised that Trump had the awareness to know that, and actually argued it to a sitting member of Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2679 "2016-07-17T01:24:41Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Did they seriously play “You can’t always get what you want” before Trump’s speech announcing Pence as the running mate? As one of several songs, according to this - [Trump announces Pence as running mate and 'partner' to rebuild U.S.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/07/16/donald-trump-mike-pence-news-conference/87174356/) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2680 "2016-07-17T15:14:06Z")
During a 60 Minutes joint interview, Lesley Stahl asks Mike Pence, who’s previously written about why he dislikes negative campaigning, how he justifies Trump’s habit of calling his rivals names. Pence answers - well, he doesn’t answer at all,[because Trump cuts him off to rant at Stahl about “crooked Hillary”.](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-pence-joint-interview-negative-campaign) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2681 "2016-07-17T16:03:14Z")
I’m already starting to feel a little sorry for Pence, loathe his policy positions as I do. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2682 "2016-07-17T16:27:43Z")
Mark my words: a few more of these assaults on police officers, and Donald J Trump will be the president of the United States. This plays right into his narrative. And while a lot of whites will say the right things in the office, on Facebook, in front of their friends, and even in phone surveys, they will go to the polls to respond to what they feel is the last chance to save their country. This is shaping up to be 1968 all over again. A time when progressives could and should have won but were held back by extremists among them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=133) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=135)