# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 139
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2763 "2016-07-20T15:34:26Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > You know Trump has tweeted neo-Nazi propaganda on multiple occasions, right? Trump has retweeted stuff from white supremacist sources. He has not personally said anything that would constitute ascribing him the position of being a white supremacist. Trump is happy to whistle to the racists, but he himself is an equal opportunity thief. He’ll steal from anyone. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2764 "2016-07-20T15:45:43Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > What “white supremacism” of Trump? His campaign in and of itself is not “white supremacism.” White supremacism is something practiced by the Klan, etc. No, Trump’s not going to resurrect segregation or Jim Crow. > > If you mean white supremacist supporters, like David Duke, I don’t like it, but whats the real difference between him, and Jeremiah Wright like Obama had 8 years ago? Both are hate mongers and race users. Both hate people like me, Jews. > > I am disgusted with the time he seemed to make fun of Eric Garner, and the Diamond and Silk show, which is nothing more than a minstrel used to stereotype black women and play to that part of his base. > > And I’ve stated a million times I oppose potentially ousting 12 million illegal immigrants who did what anyone would do for their families. Do some of the opponents of illegal immigration hate them from Mexico bc they’re not white? Absolutely. But most are scared of their jobs being taken, even for as unfounded as it is on balance. > > His isolationism and “neutrality” with regard to certain conflicts is, however, one of my biggest concerns; as his love of Putin is. I guess I am a “neo-conservative,” (even tho in most ways I’m not conservative) and Trump seems to be a paleo-con, Lindbergh type. Repeating and re-using white supremacist/neo-nazi images, posts, tweets, etc.; insisting that a judge can’t do his job properly because he’s Mexican; saying that Mexican immigrants are rapists; his years of birther conspiracy mongering; and more. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2765 "2016-07-20T15:47:19Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Trump has retweeted stuff from white supremacist sources. He has not personally said anything that would constitute ascribing him the position of being a white supremacist. > > Trump is happy to whistle to the racists, but he himself is an equal opportunity thief. He’ll steal from anyone. He’s said that a judge can’t do his job properly because he’s Mexican. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2766 "2016-07-20T15:49:36Z")
Also, there’s no legitimate comparison between Jeremiah Wright and David Duke. Wright has made anti-Semitic statements, but unlike Duke, he apologized for them and recanted them. He’s far from perfect, but not even close to the level of hate that Duke has spewed for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2767 "2016-07-20T15:55:28Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I have pushed back in the past against the notion that Trump’s base is low-income, perhaps unemployed, white men. The exit polls just didn’t bear that out, and I speculated about the type of person who actually represents his prototypical voter being an exurban white guy with a three car garage, a couple new trucks, some four wheelers for weekend fun, etc. I agree that’s closer to a ‘least squares error’ midpoint of Trump support than imagined white guy outside or on the edge of the workforce with little or no skill that’s still marketable. There just aren’t nearly enough people like that to win even the primaries, even against a divided field, much less make up a significant portion of 40%+ of the general electorate supporting Trump over Clinton. But by same token 40%+ of the electorate isn’t largely covered by any single description. On the racial aspect it may be a good mobilizer for Democrats to keep claiming Trump is a white supremacist, or that’s where his support comes from to any significant degree, but this is not very plausible IMO outside campaign spin mode. Trump is the white Al Sharpton basically, not the second coming of Hitler or even the umpteenth return of the KKK to prominence. Trump does seem to play footsie with alt-right sh\*tbags. That’s one on a fairly extensive list of things which disqualify him from my POV. And the GOP has nominated him for Pres: shame on them IMO. Democrats never did Sharpton, good for them; though OTOH they now treat him as fully legitimate, invite him to the WH etc. a guy whose irresponsible race baiting has literally gotten people killed, back to shameful. But these are self promoting people doing/saying whatever to promote themselves, it’s what they do. It’s very possible to exaggerate the actual ill will of people like that, and moreover of their followers. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2768 "2016-07-20T17:22:50Z")
> [@](#): > > According to a Kasich adviser who spoke with the Times, the younger Trump said that Kasich would be in charge of both domestic and foreign policy. And what would Donald Sr. be in charge of? “Making America great again.” > **[Report: Trump camp told Kasich he could run foreign and domestic policy as VP](https://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/12235380/trump-kasich-most-powerful-vp)** > > Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology,... So, if this is true, Trump wants the glory, but doesn’t actually want to do the work. I wonder if he offered the same deal to Pence. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2769 "2016-07-20T18:19:22Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > [Report: Trump camp told Kasich he could run foreign and domestic policy as VP | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/12235380/trump-kasich-most-powerful-vp) > > So, if this is true, Trump wants the glory, but doesn’t actually want to do the work. I wonder if he offered the same deal to Pence. I mentioned this in the other thread a few hours back, and it’s since gotten me to wondering: if he was pissed off before, is Chris Christie now going _nuts?_ ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2770 "2016-07-20T18:38:42Z")
Basically Donald Trump really wants to be “Secretary of Keeping it Real”. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2771 "2016-07-20T18:52:39Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > [Report: Trump camp told Kasich he could run foreign and domestic policy as VP | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/12235380/trump-kasich-most-powerful-vp) > > So, if this is true, Trump wants the glory, but doesn’t actually want to do the work. I wonder if he offered the same deal to Pence. Being President is hard work. Running for President is probably more work than Donald’s done in years - and he’s barely even showing up for that. I have no doubt that Donald assumes his VP will run everything just like the VPs at his corporation, while Donald jets around and tags his name on stuff. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2772 "2016-07-20T19:08:35Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I mentioned this in the other thread a few hours back, and it’s since gotten me to wondering: if he was pissed off before, is Chris Christie now going _nuts?_ He’s had a tough couple of weeks, but he’s totally cool with it! Saw him last night, him and Il Douche are the bestest buddies ever and he’s looking forward to working on the Transition Team. Couldn’t be happier, bubbling over with enthusiasm. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2773 "2016-07-20T19:23:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Also, there’s no legitimate comparison between Jeremiah Wright and David Duke. Wright has made anti-Semitic statements, but unlike Duke, he apologized for them and recanted them. He’s far from perfect, but not even close to the level of hate that Duke has spewed for decades. Trump didn’t sit in Duke’s pews for 20 years, and Wright has been a radical pastor for decades. He also never recanted for shit. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2774 "2016-07-20T19:36:28Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Being President is hard work. Running for President is probably more work than Donald’s done in years - and he’s barely even showing up for that. > > I have no doubt that Donald assumes his VP will run everything just like the VPs at his corporation, while Donald jets around and tags his name on stuff. Ha, good call. Although apparently, back in the '70s at least, Donald (#whinylittlebitch) really was a hands-on guy, constantly going around to make sure contractors were on task and so on. Although he did delegate a fair bit of that to Ivana, come to think of it… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2775 "2016-07-20T19:43:45Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Trump didn’t sit in Duke’s pews for 20 years, and Wright has been a radical pastor for decades. He also never recanted for shit. Wright has been a radical, sure, but not an anti-Semite, for 20 years. And he did, quickly and clearly, recant his anti-Semitic words. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2776 "2016-07-20T19:47:54Z")
“Radical” how? Huey Newton radical? Nation of Islam radical? MLK radical? Did you see pictures of his congregation? Look like seething revolutionaries to you? Or just a bunch of folks dressed up for church? ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2777 "2016-07-20T20:17:15Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Wright has been a radical, sure, but not an anti-Semite, for 20 years. And he did, quickly and clearly, recant his anti-Semitic words. [bullshit](http://archive.adl.org/nr/exeres/af8dd36d-7995-443d-847f-4aaa7def18b1,db7611a2-02cd-43af-8147-649e26813571,frameless.html) about him recanting, or did you mean[this kind](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/rev-wright-i-meant-to-say-zionists-are-keeping-me-from-talking-to-president-obama-not-jews.html) of “recanting?” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2778 "2016-07-20T20:26:12Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > [bullshit](http://archive.adl.org/nr/exeres/af8dd36d-7995-443d-847f-4aaa7def18b1,db7611a2-02cd-43af-8147-649e26813571,frameless.html) about him recanting, or did you mean[this kind](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/rev-wright-i-meant-to-say-zionists-are-keeping-me-from-talking-to-president-obama-not-jews.html) of “recanting?” He’s nutty, but yes, that’s recanting. Disagreeing about Zionism isn’t necessarily antisemitic. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2779 "2016-07-20T20:30:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “Radical” how? Huey Newton radical? Nation of Islam radical? MLK radical? Did you see pictures of his congregation? Look like seething revolutionaries to you? Or just a bunch of folks dressed up for church? This is the hill you want to die on? He’s as radical as you get without going into Weather Underground bombing mode. And he’s close to that. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2780 "2016-07-20T20:33:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He’s nutty, but yes, that’s recanting. Disagreeing about Zionism isn’t necessarily antisemitic. So when Jeremiah said “Jews were keeping him from speaking to Obama,” Wright only meant supporters of Israel?? Its hard to square that with the ideas of people “controlling” Obama. David Duke also hides behind “I only mean Zionists” business. Point is that a lot of pols play footsie with some sick weirdos, Trump and Obama. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2781 "2016-07-20T20:39:53Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > So when Jeremiah said “Jews were keeping him from speaking to Obama,” Wright only meant supporters of Israel?? > > Its hard to square that with the ideas of people “controlling” Obama. > > David Duke also hides behind “I only mean Zionists” business. > > Point is that a lot of pols play footsie with some sick weirdos, Trump and Obama. Those are the words he recanted. He’s a nut, but if you think being a nut who sometimes disagrees with Zionism and once said something antisemitic that he then recanted is comparable to leading the KKK, then I think your criteria is way out of whack. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2782 "2016-07-20T20:47:35Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Being President is hard work. Running for President is probably more work than Donald’s done in years - and he’s barely even showing up for that. > > I have no doubt that Donald assumes his VP will run everything just like the VPs at his corporation, while Donald jets around and tags his name on stuff. I’ve had the same thought except that Donald will just hold rallies all the time so the American people can show him how much they love him. Maybe have a rally in each state, one a week, with two weeks off to celebrate that national holiday when it’s required that everyone say “Merry Christmas!”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=138) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=140)