# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 147
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2923 "2016-07-24T03:01:25Z")
I can easily imagine it. I think, deep down, that Trump would probably rather punish his enemies than be elected President. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2924 "2016-07-24T03:08:41Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > There’s no confirmation that I know of, but as both liberals and conservatives have observed, is it really that hard to imagine him doing so? It’s not hard at all to imagine him wanting to punish Cruz and Kasich. It’s harder to imagine him willingly parting with $20 million to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2925 "2016-07-24T03:24:19Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Bloomberg apparently has an article (no link right now, sorry) quoting a “source” that Trump is thinking of spending $20 million of his own money on super PACs to ruin Cruz and Kasich for the last week, with his results in November being irrelevant. > > There’s no confirmation that I know of, but as both liberals and conservatives have observed, is it really that hard to imagine him doing so? Well as [this article shows](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/1988-the-year-donald-lost-his-mind-213721), Trump does not spend his money wisely. He just spends it to gratify his own lizard brain. Spending 20 million to attack Cruz and Kasich would be no different than his purchase of the Plaza Hotel, Eastern Airlines Shuttle, Trump Princess, etc. He’s a horrible, horrible businessman with horrible, horrible judgement. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2926 "2016-07-24T03:42:23Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > _Don Quixote, Bleak House, Ulysses,_ and _The Master and Margarita_ ain’t meaty enough reads for ya, Brainiac? If we’re saying whole art forms don’t count, we go by averages, not exceptional achievements. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2927 "2016-07-24T03:45:07Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > I can’t find it, but someone in a recent SDMB thread told a story of his father having tried the tactics in _The Art of the Deal_ when hiring contractors to work on his house (low-balling, reducing the amount after the deal had been struck, refusing to pay, etc). Years later, when the son had to take over his father’s affairs, he couldn’t get anyone to do repairs on the house, because every contractor in town remembered what the old man had done. Yup, I told that story. It Was by best friend and his FIL, not me. But that is precisely what happened. Rich people using their wealth to NOT pay is an old story, really. I read an article about how the Winklevoss Twins had been evicted for like the third time because, for the third straight time, they never paid the rent. The just figured, hey, we’re rich. We don’t pay rent. Call the lawyer and have him stop the eviction. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2928 "2016-07-24T05:20:55Z")
[The mother of Amb. Stevens wants the GOP and Trump to shut up about Benghazi.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/23/politics/benghazi-ambassador-mother-trump-complaint/index.html) > [@](#): > > “I know for certain that Chris would not have wanted his name or memory used in that connection,” Mary Commanday [wrote in the letter](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/opinion/a-mothers-complaint-about-a-cynical-use-of-benghazi.html?_r=0&mtrref=thehill.com&assetType=opinion), which was published Saturday. “I hope that there will be an immediate and permanent stop to this opportunistic and cynical use by the campaign.” ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2929 "2016-07-24T07:56:01Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > He also doesn’t know the difference between an article and an amendment. He was talking about upholding Article XII the other day—but there are only seven. Clearly he has never read and has no familiarity with the Constitution he would be sworn to uphold as President. > … > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > So was he saying that he would uphold the 12th _Amendment_? The one that talks about how to elect the President and Vice President? Well, that’s good news, I really expect he’ll try to be President for Life. And right now I’m [del]banging my head against a wall[/del] having a discussion with a [del]person[/del] Trump supporter on FB about the semantics of “article” versus “amendment”. He posted a link to some conservative website that has the text of the constitution but mistakenly uses the term “article” where it should say “amendment”. Once again they have their own version of reality. I wonder if using the term “article” instead of “amendment” has some political meaning in conservative-reality-world[sup]_tm_[/sup] ? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2930 "2016-07-24T08:01:53Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [The mother of Amb. Stevens wants the GOP and Trump to shut up about Benghazi.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/23/politics/benghazi-ambassador-mother-trump-complaint/index.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > “I know for certain that Chris would not have wanted his name or memory used in that connection,” Mary Commanday [wrote in the letter](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/opinion/a-mothers-complaint-about-a-cynical-use-of-benghazi.html?_r=0&mtrref=thehill.com&assetType=opinion), which was published Saturday. “I hope that there will be an immediate and permanent stop to this opportunistic and cynical use by the campaign.” You expect decency and respect? They only care about grieving mothers when it serves their political purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2931 "2016-07-24T08:02:20Z")
The First Article acknowledges the right to Fight Club. The Second Article does not talk about Fight Club. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2932 "2016-07-24T08:31:02Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > He posted a link to some conservative website that has the text of the constitution but mistakenly uses the term “article” where it should say “amendment”. The original text of the Bill of Rights used “Article the First” through “Article the Twelfth” to refer to the proposed amendments (one was never ratified, and one took 200 years to ratify). “Article the Twelfth” was what we now call the 10th Amendment, so that _would_ be something the right-wingers would love, but of course Trump didn’t know that. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2933 "2016-07-24T10:28:02Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Pfft. Like “facts” matter. Well, that’s the thing about my musing: if they key into states with an unpopular Republican governors, and say that Trump will govern the nation like the governor did the state, that keys into the same dissatisfaction that Trump uses, only even more local and immediate, something voters are more likely to have experienced directly. That’s why I was wondering if it could be uniquely effective in places like Indiana and Kansas. ETA, re: Michael Moore’s dire prediction: as a left leaning sort, he has not much to lose by predicting Trump: either he’s relieved to be wrong, or he gets to say I told you so. His depression is like the anxiety others will feel in the lead up, so he isn’t unusually hurt. The only ones who are are others, if he’s given up doing things politically he would’ve otherwise, or discourages others. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2934 "2016-07-24T11:05:33Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > [snip] > > ETA, re: Michael Moore’s dire prediction: as a left leaning sort, he has not much to lose by predicting Trump: either he’s relieved to be wrong, or he gets to say I told you so. His depression is like the anxiety others will feel in the lead up, so he isn’t unusually hurt. The only ones who are are others, if he’s given up doing things politically he would’ve otherwise, or discourages others. Michael Moore also said Romney was absolutely, without a doubt, going to crush Obama. He just KNEW it was going to happen. Moore is the poster child for political pessimism. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2935 "2016-07-24T11:25:46Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > Michael Moore also said Romney was absolutely, without a doubt, going to crush Obama. He just KNEW it was going to happen. Moore is the poster child for political pessimism. Anyone predictions that are substantially different than Nate Silver’s are no more worth paying attention to than a coin flip. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2936 "2016-07-24T12:09:43Z")
Including Sam Wang. Neener neener.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2937 "2016-07-24T13:00:48Z")
You and Michael Moore have much to discuss. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2938 "2016-07-24T17:52:50Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > And right now I’m [del]banging my head against a wall[/del] having a discussion with a [del]person[/del] Trump supporter on FB about the semantics of “article” versus “amendment”. He posted a link to some conservative website that has the text of the constitution but mistakenly uses the term “article” where it should say “amendment”. Once again they have their own version of reality. I wonder if using the term “article” instead of “amendment” has some political meaning in conservative-reality-world[sup]_tm_[/sup] ? Disarm him. Agree with him that Trump is the world’s foremost authority on things Constitutional. Seriously, it’s like arguing with a brick wall. There’s no point. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2939 "2016-07-24T19:40:09Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Including Sam Wang. Neener neener.🙂 Wang called the Republican nomination for Trump back in January. You must be seriously addicted to making bad predictions. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2940 "2016-07-24T20:43:59Z")
I think Trump will use the leaked DNC emails and the fact that Wasserman-Schultz resigned over them effectively against Clinton: “Nobody likes her! Her own party had to rig things to make her the nominee! THAT’S how crooked she is!” ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2941 "2016-07-24T20:46:03Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I think Trump will use the leaked DNC emails and the fact that Wasserman-Schultz resigned over them effectively against Clinton: “Nobody likes her! Her own party had to rig things to make her the nominee! THAT’S how crooked she is!” “And if my party could have, it would have dragged me out back and shot me in the head!” ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2942 "2016-07-24T20:53:06Z")
Trump’s tweets are fascinating. Since the Wikileaks stuff hit, he has been pandering to former Bernie supporters. Today, Bernie finally commented last night that, in spite of the DNC e-mails, “Most of my supporters understand that Trump has got to be defeated”. I think the Big Cheeto actually thought Bernie was going to jump ship. When he did not, the tweets from Donne started getting testy. > [@](#): > > ‏@realDonaldTrump > > There is no longer a Bernie Sanders “political revolution.” He is turning out to be a weak and somewhat pathetic figure,wants it all to end! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=146) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=148)