# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2963 "2016-07-26T00:05:45Z")

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Wow, that’s big. If any running mate could’ve patched things up between Trump and the Koches, I would’ve thought it was Pence.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2964 "2016-07-26T00:28:14Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Wow, that’s big. If any running mate could’ve patched things up between Trump and the Koches, I would’ve thought it was Pence.

Trump does like paying pennies on the dollar.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2965 "2016-07-26T00:46:50Z")

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We’ve talked about the 3500 Trump lawsuits, but I just heard it spun that all big corporations have high numbers of lawsuits like that. Can anyone confirm or deny? Sounds like BS to me, but my google skills weren’t up for the challenge.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2966 "2016-07-26T02:38:53Z")

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Donald reaffirms that he wants to dump NATO unless they pay protection money:

> **[Trump Doubles Down On NATO Comments: ‘We Have To Walk’](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-nato-we-have-to-walk)**
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> At a Monday rally in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Donald Trump doubled down on his previous controversial remarks regarding American support for NATO allies. In an interview with The New York Times…

> [@Donald Trump](#):
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> In an interview with The New York Times last week, Trump hesitated to commit to a defense of Baltic states in the case of Russian aggression, saying that it would depend on whether or not those NATO allies had “fulfilled their obligations” to the United States.
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> On Monday night, however, Trump offered an even more explicit ultimatum to NATO allies.
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> “I want them to pay,” he said. “They don’t pay us what they should be paying! We lose on everything. Folks, we lose on everything.”
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> He went on to criticize former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy record: "She makes it impossible to negotiate. She’s not a negotiator. She’s a fool.”
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> “We have to walk,” Trump added. “Within two days they’re calling back! Get back over here, we’ll pay you whatever the hell you want.”
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> “They will pay us if the right person asks,” he said. “That’s the way it works, folks. That’s the way it works.”

I guess the only question now is if he wants to blow up NATO because he sees himself as The Big Deal Guy or if he wants to do this because his pal, Vladimir Putin, told him to.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2967 "2016-07-26T03:00:58Z")

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In the cold war we lived under the threat of nuclear annihilation in 30 minutes at any time. Since the cold war ended, and the world has found a stable order, we’ve forgotten that threat exists even though everyone still has many thousands of warheads ready to go at a moment’s notice. The nuclear threat is still very real.

Trump is threatning to disturb the order that keeps them out of our minds. He’s actively attempting to change the situaton in such a way that nuclear annihilation looms closer. This isn’t some stupid political stunt or even being racist or sexist - this is literally tinkering with the balance of power that allows for the continuation of civilization.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2968 "2016-07-26T05:40:20Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> In the cold war we lived under the threat of nuclear annihilation in 30 minutes at any time. Since the cold war ended, and the world has found a stable order, we’ve forgotten that threat exists even though everyone still has many thousands of warheads ready to go at a moment’s notice. The nuclear threat is still very real.
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> Trump is threatning to disturb the order that keeps them out of our minds. He’s actively attempting to change the situaton in such a way that nuclear annihilation looms closer. This isn’t some stupid political stunt or even being racist or sexist - this is literally tinkering with the balance of power that allows for the continuation of civilization.

True. This is because a dictator (emphasis on the third syllable) requires fear in order to maintain power.  
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2969 "2016-07-26T13:01:01Z")

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New poll: No convention bounce for Trump:

> **[New poll: No convention bounce for Trump](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/poll-trump-republican-convention-226198)**
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> The good news for Trump is that his lead over Clinton grew to two points when Green Party candidate Jill Stein and Libertarian Gary Johnson were included.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2970 "2016-07-26T14:53:21Z")

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Heard a clip on CNN of Trump speaking to a veteran’s group. Not only have they forgotten what he said about Americans taken prisoners, but they believd him when he said he, when elected, would have a direct phone line installed so vets can call and complain about their care and that he would take each call _personally._

“Thank you for calling TrumpVetCare. Your call is very important to me. I will be with you in…3 weeks.2 days. 14 hours.34 minutes. Please stay on the line.” _scratchy recording of Trump U. lectures_

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2971 "2016-07-26T15:29:59Z")

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Of course he stands _behind_ our veterans: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/questions-linger-about-trumps-draft-deferments-during-vietnam-war/2015/07/21/257677bc-2fdd-11e5-8353-1215475949f4\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/questions-linger-about-trumps-draft-deferments-during-vietnam-war/2015/07/21/257677bc-2fdd-11e5-8353-1215475949f4_story.html)

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2972 "2016-07-26T15:52:36Z")

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I just read a rather sobering article about how Trump will win in November. I think he would be a dangerous choice for President, but the odds seem to be ever in his favour, based on his defying the odds at every step so far. It’s a long article, but worth reading if you have the time.

> **[1968 Revisited: Will Trump Win Again? | C2C Journal](https://c2cjournal.ca/2016/07/how-trump-wins/)**
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> The current U.S. anarchy is reminiscent of 1968 when there was widespread social upheaval and mobs clashed with police. A feckless Hubert Humphrey led a Democratic Party in disarray. Richard Nixon presented himself as the “law and order” candidate....

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2973 "2016-07-26T16:36:26Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Donald reaffirms that he wants to dump NATO unless they pay protection money:  
> [Trump Doubles Down On NATO Comments: ‘We Have To Walk’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-nato-we-have-to-walk)
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> I guess the only question now is if he wants to blow up NATO because he sees himself as The Big Deal Guy or if he wants to do this because his pal, Vladimir Putin, told him to.

Trump is a dealmaker. If it comes to it, he’ll see who is willing to make the biggest donation to Trump and his companies; Russia or Latvia. This is what “winning” means to him. The rest of us? We’re just suckers. Shareholders to be left holding the bag. Losers.

I don’t think he’s being deliberately evil or even provocative. I don’t think he even sees what could possibly go wrong with such a scenario. For him, it’s all about making the best deal - for himself.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2974 "2016-07-26T17:48:46Z")

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Hey, remember those “Freedom Kids” who sang pro-Trump songs at his rallies last year?

In a turn of events that should shock no one, [the campaign is refusing to pay them.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/26/the-creator-of-the-viral-pro-trump-act-usa-freedom-kids-now-plans-to-sue-the-campaign/)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2975 "2016-07-26T17:54:47Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Hey, remember those “Freedom Kids” who sang pro-Trump songs at his rallies last year?
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> In a turn of events that should shock no one, [the campaign is refusing to pay them.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/26/the-creator-of-the-viral-pro-trump-act-usa-freedom-kids-now-plans-to-sue-the-campaign/)

That dad has to be about the worst entertainment agent/manager in history.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2976 "2016-07-26T18:25:01Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump is a dealmaker. If it comes to it, he’ll see who is willing to make the biggest donation to Trump and his companies; Russia or Latvia. This is what “winning” means to him. The rest of us? We’re just suckers. Shareholders to be left holding the bag. Losers.
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> I don’t think he’s being deliberately evil or even provocative. I don’t think he even sees what could possibly go wrong with such a scenario. For him, it’s all about making the best deal - for himself.

But he couldn’t do that with Ted Cruz. Ted made him look like an ass.

However Hillary effectively traded control of the DNC to Bernie Sanders in exchange for his full support for her President run. He delivered when he could have reneged, right?

So who is the better deal maker? By the evidence, it’s Hillary.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2977 "2016-07-26T18:32:36Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Really? has the Democratic base become pro-free trade yet? Or are they still afraid of Asian competition?

You should have noticed by now this election, and the general right wing backlash happening in Europe, has come down to globalists vs. nationalists, with the liberals being the globalist oligarchs. The Republican elite who supported globalism were tarred, feathered, and sent out on a rail.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2978 "2016-07-26T18:38:36Z")

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Not to get dragged into a big debate, but, imho, if free trade.was coupled with free movement, it would probably convert a number of OWS “types” ( for want of a better word) to support free trade.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2979 "2016-07-26T18:38:51Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Hey, remember those “Freedom Kids” who sang pro-Trump songs at his rallies last year?
> 
> In a turn of events that should shock no one, [the campaign is refusing to pay them.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/26/the-creator-of-the-viral-pro-trump-act-usa-freedom-kids-now-plans-to-sue-the-campaign/)

Normally, I’d be on the side of anyone getting stiffed by Donald. But holy shit, these girls need deprogramming, not money. Their North Korean style dance for their Dear Leader Kim Jong Trump is disgusting beyond words.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2980 "2016-07-26T18:59:50Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> That dad has to be about the worst entertainment agent/manager in history.

> [@](#):
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> Popick came into the relationship as a Trump fan. “I grew up in New York, where he was sort of a celebrity before he was a celebrity,” Popick said. “I admired what he was able to accomplish. I read all of his books at this point back probably decades. … I was a fan before he was a candidate.”

He read all the Trump books and Trump stiffing him and the girls came as a big surprise?

So it will be for the ones that will vote for him.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2981 "2016-07-26T19:01:59Z")

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Sometimes I doubt Trump’s commitment to Sparkle Motion.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/2982 "2016-07-26T19:14:06Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Heard a clip on CNN of Trump speaking to a veteran’s group. Not only have they forgotten what he said about Americans taken prisoners, but they believd him when he said he, when elected, would have a direct phone line installed so vets can call and complain about their care and that he would take each call _personally._
> 
> “Thank you for calling TrumpVetCare. Your call is very important to me. I will be with you in…3 weeks.2 days. 14 hours.34 minutes. Please stay on the line.” _scratchy recording of Trump U. lectures_

Did anybody ask about his claims that American soldiers looted the Iraqi treasury and kept it for themselves?

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