# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 184
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3663 "2016-08-04T21:04:22Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > “Hillary Clinton says she has foreign policy experience, but Bill Clinton runs a corrupt NGO.” Give me a break, the sins of a spouse ought to stay with the spouse. Any sentence that begins “Hillary Clinton says she has foreign policy experience, _but_…” is laughable on its face, since we’re talking about someone who served as Secretary of State for four years. Nobody else, probably not even the actual President, gets more foreign policy experience than the Secretary of State. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3664 "2016-08-04T21:04:58Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Cannot imagine how he will be able to get through a debate without at least one amazing boner. Based on his unimpressive hand size, I would suspect that the boner would not be terribly large. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3665 "2016-08-04T21:06:55Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > So, at this point would Trump be better served if he simply went on vacation or into seclusion, AND SIMPLY STOPPED SAYING ANYTHING INFROM TO CAMERAS?MICROPHONES? That way, his fans could keep the faith, and other suckers could potentially be lured in. As opposed to day after day of jawdropping inanity (and worse). Of course, he isn’t capable of existing without microphones and cameras, so that might be problematic… I hear the [Fletcher Memorial Home](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkSPI9LlwyQ) comes highly recommended. Amenities include closed circuit TV. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3666 "2016-08-04T21:10:30Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Any sentence that begins “Hillary Clinton says she has foreign policy experience, _but_…” is laughable on its face, since we’re talking about someone who served as Secretary of State for four years. Nobody else, probably not even the actual President, gets more foreign policy experience than the Secretary of State. Not to mention being on the Armed Services Committee while in the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3667 "2016-08-04T21:21:43Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > No, you’re using the possible wrongdoing of a spouse to attack a candidate. I’m saying that this is bullshit. > > Trump’s stance on immigration is wrong and racist. That stands on its own. These petty charges of hypocrisy on who Donald may want to get married to, and how they arrived in the country, do literally nothing to inform or improve any American’s decision on who should lead this country. It’s a cheap shot and the worst kind of mudslinging politics to go after family members in order to damage a candidate. > > In fact, it’s Donald Trump’s level of gutter politics. You know what? You can be as noble as you want. I want to expose this villain for the piece of shit he is. I’ll let you and Hillary stay above the fray. This info further exposes him as an asshole and a hypocrite who wants to keep immigrants out of this country-- unless they’re hot European models who he wants to fuck apparently. She won’t be damaged by these revelations, but I’m hoping it’s one more chink in his greasy orange armor. Because yes, these charges of hypocrisy absolutely _do_ inform and improve Americans’ decision on who should lead this country. If he was married to a black woman, and the cornerstone of his campaign was to disenfranchise inner city voters or re-segregate public schools, or something else that screwed black people that don’t happen to be married to Donald Trump, you better believe I’d be calling him out on his hypocrisy. Same thing goes here. Any blame Hillary is taking for the “sins” of her husband (blowjobs, NAFTA, DADT) aren’t relevant to her campaign-- she’s not campaigning in support of leaving your cheating husband, and she’s already publicly addressed gay rights and trade and how she is different than her husband on those issues. But Trump continues to attack and dehumanize immigrants-- except for the hot European model who broke the law to work here illegally just because he had the hots for her. You don’t like it? Don’t do it. But he needs to be called out on every shit thing about him until November 8. And FYI, I’m sorry Melania married an asshole. If she’s lucky, he’ll trade her in for a newer model soon. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3668 "2016-08-04T22:11:13Z")
[Even after his own campaign staff admitted that the video Trump is claiming showed pallets of money landing in Iran was false, Trump repeated the claim today.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-iran-money-video-226682?cmpid=sf) Re-reading that several times, the grammar in my post seems really bad, but I really don’t know how to rewrite it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3669 "2016-08-04T22:20:32Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > These petty charges of hypocrisy on who Donald may want to get married to, and how they arrived in the country, do literally nothing to inform or improve any American’s decision on who should lead this country. You don’t think it would inform peoples decisions to know that the candidate is a complete and utter hypocrite? To have a clear and simple example of said hypocrisy? If I were a voter in the US I’d quite like to know things like that. Maybe thats just me, to be honest I don’t like hypocrites. ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3670 "2016-08-04T22:26:30Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Even after his own campaign staff admitted that the video Trump is claiming showed pallets of money landing in Iran was false, Trump repeated the claim today.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-iran-money-video-226682?cmpid=sf) > > Re-reading that several times, the grammar in my post seems really bad, but I really don’t know how to rewrite it. 🙂 By the time November comes around, a lot of people who aren’t fans of HRC are going to remember this video as being real (there are threads on this very site with people ‘remembering’ fake TV/movie moments that never happened). In fact, a large percentage will probably be positive that they saw it themselves. This is smart high level bullshitting by the master of high level bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3671 "2016-08-04T22:44:21Z")
[Protesters Ejected From Donald Trump Rally After Holding Up Pocket Constitutions](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-protesters-constitution-khan_us_57a39862e4b056bad214e62f) No word on how many of Trump’s supporters suffered painful tongue burns from exposure to the worship words of E Pleb Nista… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3672 "2016-08-04T22:57:47Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Even after his own campaign staff admitted that the video Trump is claiming showed pallets of money landing in Iran was false, Trump repeated the claim today.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-iran-money-video-226682?cmpid=sf) > > Re-reading that several times, the grammar in my post seems really bad, but I really don’t know how to rewrite it. 🙂 It’s what he knows. When caught in an obvious lie, just keep repeating and repeating the lie. He thinks it will then become the truth. Next step: Attack the people who pointed out the lie. Manbaby: “Wahhh, the media are so mean to me! They attack me all the time, wahhhh!” (edit) also what **Junior Spaceman** says ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3673 "2016-08-04T23:02:33Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I’ve been reading the most recent WaPo [interview with Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/03/donald-trump-has-a-secret-state-strategy-that-you-cant-know-about/), and something dawned on me when reading his blather about voter fraud. Well, when he tried to vote in 2004, [he apparently had no idea what he was doing;](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-provisional-ballot-2004) > [@](#): > > He filmed a segment for Access Hollywood on Election Day back then in which correspondent Billy Bush was supposed to accompany him to the polling place where he would vote. But the bit didn’t appear to go so smoothly. Trump went to three different polling places, where workers could not find his name in their rolls, at least, according the segment. So finally he gave up and said he would just fill out a provisional ballot instead. > > In typical Trump-ian fashion, the cameras filmed Trump filing out the ballot in his limo, rather than in one of the dingy polling places he visited. > > “I just voted. At least you can say the Trumpster doesn’t give up,” Trump told the cameras upon completing the ballot. > > The problem? New York’s election rules require that voters casting provisional ballot do so from the polling site. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3674 "2016-08-04T23:09:00Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > By the time November comes around, a lot of people who aren’t fans of HRC are going to remember this video as being real (there are threads on this very site with people ‘remembering’ fake TV/movie moments that never happened). In fact, a large percentage will probably be positive that they saw it themselves. This is smart high level bullshitting by the master of high level bullshit. I wonder if it’d make a good 30-second ad: start the clip, Trump says the plane was in Iran; pause to note that it’s _Switzerland._. Restart the clip, Trump says money was pouring off the plane; pause to note those are just _people._ Restart the clip, Trump says the thing was “top secret”; pause to note that it of course _wasn’t._ _“Donald Trump: if he sees a plane land in Aruba, is he dumb enough to bomb Brazil?”_ ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3675 "2016-08-04T23:10:19Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > By the time November comes around, a lot of people who aren’t fans of HRC are going to remember this video as being real (there are threads on this very site with people ‘remembering’ fake TV/movie moments that never happened). In fact, a large percentage will probably be positive that they saw it themselves. This is smart high level bullshitting by the master of high level bullshit. I’m baffled as to why Trump was talking about video money deliveries, at all. The Obama administration isn’t disputing that $400M was delivered to Iran – would video of money being unloaded from a plane prove something? ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3676 "2016-08-04T23:17:04Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I’m baffled as to why Trump was talking about video money deliveries, at all. The Obama administration isn’t disputing that $400M was delivered to Iran – would video of money being unloaded from a plane prove something? For the same reason he says that he saw footage of Muslims in America celebrating 9/11 - because it creates a fake visual memory in the minds of people listening to him. ETA: This article describes some of what he’s trying to do: [Implanting False Memory - NeuroLogica Blog](http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/implanting-false-memory/) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3677 "2016-08-04T23:28:40Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > You know what? You can be as noble as you want. I want to expose this villain for the piece of shit he is. I’ll let you and Hillary stay above the fray. This info further exposes him as an asshole and a hypocrite who wants to keep immigrants out of this country-- unless they’re hot European models who he wants to fuck apparently. She won’t be damaged by these revelations, but I’m hoping it’s one more chink in his greasy orange armor. > > Because yes, these charges of hypocrisy absolutely _do_ inform and improve Americans’ decision on who should lead this country. > > If he was married to a black woman, and the cornerstone of his campaign was to disenfranchise inner city voters or re-segregate public schools, or something else that screwed black people that don’t happen to be married to Donald Trump, you better believe I’d be calling him out on his hypocrisy. Same thing goes here. > > Any blame Hillary is taking for the “sins” of her husband (blowjobs, NAFTA, DADT) aren’t relevant to her campaign-- she’s not campaigning in support of leaving your cheating husband, and she’s already publicly addressed gay rights and trade and how she is different than her husband on those issues. But Trump continues to attack and dehumanize immigrants-- except for the hot European model who broke the law to work here illegally just because he had the hots for her. > > You don’t like it? Don’t do it. But he needs to be called out on every shit thing about him until November 8. And FYI, I’m sorry Melania married an asshole. If she’s lucky, he’ll trade her in for a newer model soon. > [@bucketybuck](#): > > You don’t think it would inform peoples decisions to know that the candidate is a complete and utter hypocrite? To have a clear and simple example of said hypocrisy? > > If I were a voter in the US I’d quite like to know things like that. Maybe thats just me, to be honest I don’t like hypocrites. The obsession with exposing the other side as hypocrites is probably the main reason that politics is such a cesspool right now. Each partisan in the United States earnestly believes that if they can just explain to people how the other candidate has such great character flaws - as evidenced by things done by other people that are at odds with that candidate’s policies - then the ends will justify the means, no matter who gets dragged through the mud. Its not only ethically a shitty thing to do, but it’s bad politics, too. When your opponent is busy shooting himself in the foot, don’t intervene. If Dems want to intervene with this gutter politics, they’d just handing a reason for Trump to change the debate away from how he wants to nuke Syria, yell at Gold Star mothers, and all the other shitshow topics that were on display this week. Besides, attacks like this just make us liberals look like hypocrites. A DREAMer here illegally deserves citizenship and free college; a model here illegally who is married to a Republican is a scandal. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3678 "2016-08-04T23:29:23Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Aren’t the records of who voted public? Couldn’t an enterprising reporter check to see if Trump turned up at the polls? [Yes.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/07/donald-trumps-got-a-particularly-strange-voting-history/) He had trouble voting [in 2004](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/04/donald-trump-couldnt-figure-out-how-to-vote-for-president-in-2004/). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3679 "2016-08-04T23:37:37Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > For the same reason he says that he saw footage of Muslims in America celebrating 9/11 - because it creates a fake visual memory in the minds of people listening to him. Quiet, you fool! Don’t give the man ideas! _“I was elected president, okay? Got elected president: put my hand on Abe Lincoln’s old Bible, a Supreme Court Justice swore me in; you all saw it; Crooked Hillary was there, she applauded me; sun was out, one cloud in the sky, hand on Lincoln’s old Bible, the Justice had a black robe on, Hillary applauded, the Pope kissed my ring.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3680 "2016-08-04T23:49:27Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Yes, if possible the wall should have some kind of filter to allow hot Slavic models to pass through it. I vie you leave off the Slavic part of the filter and just set it for hot models. Male or female of course, equal opportunity for the female and LGBT populations. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3681 "2016-08-05T00:24:58Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > The obsession with exposing the other side as hypocrites is probably the main reason that politics is such a cesspool right now. Each partisan in the United States earnestly believes that if they can just explain to people how the other candidate has such great character flaws - as evidenced by things done by other people that are at odds with that candidate’s policies - then the ends will justify the means, no matter who gets dragged through the mud. > > Its not only ethically a shitty thing to do, but it’s bad politics, too. When your opponent is busy shooting himself in the foot, don’t intervene. If Dems want to intervene with this gutter politics, they’d just handing a reason for Trump to change the debate away from how he wants to nuke Syria, yell at Gold Star mothers, and all the other shitshow topics that were on display this week. > > Besides, attacks like this just make us liberals look like hypocrites. A DREAMer here illegally deserves citizenship and free college; a model here illegally who is married to a Republican is a scandal. For a guy who thinks we shouldn’t be discussing this, you sure keep the discussion going. This thread is for discussing Fat Don’s train wreck of a campaign. You don’t like this story as a line of attack? Then move on. I think it is relevant, you don’t. Then stop talking about it. But I’d rather keep Donald out of the White House by exposing his skumbaggery at every turn, even if it hurts your delicate nobility, than to look back on Fat Don’s inauguration day and wonder why we pulled our punches with this unhinged piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3682 "2016-08-05T01:25:24Z")
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