# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 189
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3763 "2016-08-06T12:12:06Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Sentient? šŸ˜• Demented Cheeto? I saw the _Vulgar Talking Yam_ a while ago and it seemed a most excellent descriptor. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3764 "2016-08-06T13:29:33Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I just read on Reddit a comment by a Sanders campaign worker that shows what happens when [volunteers donā€™t realize that enthusiasm isnā€™t enough, and that a lot of hard thankless work needs to be done to get a candidate elected.](https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4w8otw/i_feel_betrayed_bernie_supporters_stories_of_dnc/d64z5mx?context=3) > > I bring this up here because subsequent comments wonder whether a similar thing is happening with the Trump campaign. Obviously, we donā€™t have a lot of direct insight, but seeing as how Trump supporters have a reputation for having a lot of enthusiasm and nothing else, I have to wonder myself. Great post and comment! And this is where Trumpā€™s comments over the past week, and in particular his hesitation in supporting the GOP comments, are a real problem. I have no doubt that Manafort is the guy who pushed Trump to endorse the GOP candidates because he knows that itā€™s going to be critical for Trump to use the apparatus to win key states. Trump canā€™t win without push polling the elderly, robocalling, and knocking on doors. Itā€™s simply not possible. He must have national and local GOP support or itā€™s over. This is why Paul Manafortā€™s there and why Corey Lewandowskiā€™s out. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3765 "2016-08-06T14:05:45Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I just read on Reddit a comment by a Sanders campaign worker that shows what happens when [volunteers donā€™t realize that enthusiasm isnā€™t enough, and that a lot of hard thankless work needs to be done to get a candidate elected.](https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4w8otw/i_feel_betrayed_bernie_supporters_stories_of_dnc/d64z5mx?context=3) > > I bring this up here because subsequent comments wonder whether a similar thing is happening with the Trump campaign. Obviously, we donā€™t have a lot of direct insight, but seeing as how Trump supporters have a reputation for having a lot of enthusiasm and nothing else, I have to wonder myself. I read that, too, and my gut is telling me that Trumpā€™s campaign is even worse. Well, more than my gut: The fact Trumpā€™s campaign has seen multiple high-level personnel shake-ups is telling me that his campaign is even worse than Sandersā€™ was: Sanders, for all his outsider pretensions, is a real politician. His campaign, therefore, was a bunch of people trying to get an electable man elected to a different office; they were incompetent, but quietly so, and he never made a serious misstep on the campaign trail. The Trump campaign, on the other hand, has to keep the demented narcissistic shitgibbon from doing any more damage to himself or his political aspirations than he already has. They seem to fail at this once every few news cycles, but Iā€™ve read more than one news piece which suggests they actually succeed every so often, implying it could be even worse. Add to that the fact the Trump campaign is staffed entirely by people who wake up in the morning and decide to spend one more of their days on this planet managing Donald Trumpā€™s political ambitions and you can see that it has fundamental handicaps which are likely insurmountable. They can either let Trump be Trump, and watch as he harasses and bullies _another_ supporter while heā€™s onstage, or they can keep the candidate in the back room, and run the kind of quietly incompetent campaign which cost Sanders his nomination while depressing the likely turnout of the only voters who actually want Trump to win. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3766 "2016-08-06T16:32:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Uhoh. [Melania may have been married before](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290608-immigration-lawyer-raises-questions-about-melania-trumps). Was she ever divorced? Interesting. FWIW, around 1989, _Spy_ Magazine broke the story that Ivana had been married before, which Trump had tried to bury. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3767 "2016-08-06T19:26:50Z")
If it turns out that his and Melaniaā€™s marriage isnā€™t legit, it might be the only time that Donald Trump and Andrew Jackson are ever mentioned in the same sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3768 "2016-08-06T19:59:39Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I was getting impatient, waiting for Trump to say something stupid. > Well, watching his Green Bay rally paid off. He revisited the baby thing, saying ā€œI was very polite to that baby!ā€ā€¦ then he **started reading his talking points off papers** , and I despaired of any new inanity. ā€¦ What he was reading was his long-awaited endorsements of Paul Ryan and John McCain (for their primary races). Reading those sentences from a paper was Trumpā€™s idea of an Alpha Male moveā€“in other words, _I am doing this because my advisors are making me do it, but reading it instead of pretending I actually think well of Ryan and McCain shows that Iā€™m still Large and In Charge_. > [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > And if you thought the bar couldnā€™t possibly get any lower: > [Trump Calls Clinton ā€˜Close to Unhinged,ā€™ Assures Heā€™s Pro-Baby](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-calls-clinton-close-unhinged-assures-he-s-pro-baby-n624036)ā€¦ Donald Trump: Undisputed King of Psychological Projection. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3769 "2016-08-06T20:37:17Z")
[http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/d53b3983d4f5f624ebd166438a94f8ba.jpg](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/d53b3983d4f5f624ebd166438a94f8ba.jpg) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3770 "2016-08-06T21:22:48Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > [http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/d53b3983d4f5f624ebd166438a94f8ba.jpg](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/d53b3983d4f5f624ebd166438a94f8ba.jpg) > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can you give a little summary of what Iā€™m potentially clicking on? ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3771 "2016-08-06T21:29:21Z")
Itā€™s a SFW Obama meme. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3772 "2016-08-06T21:40:40Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > If it turns out that his and Melaniaā€™s marriage isnā€™t legit, it might be the only time that Donald Trump and Andrew Jackson are ever mentioned in the same sentence. What? Andrew Jackson also appealed to populism, positioned himself as an outsider, had a sophomoric understanding of economics, rejected the basic premises of the constitution, and was into banishing whole groups based on their ethnicity. There may be more parallels there than to any other U.S. President. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3773 "2016-08-06T21:47:24Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > What? Andrew Jackson also appealed to populism, positioned himself as an outsider, had a sophomoric understanding of economics, rejected the basic premises of the constitution, and was into banishing whole groups based on their ethnicity. > > There may be more parallels there than to any other U.S. President. Iā€™ve felt that Trumpist Republicans are somewhat akin to Jacksonian Democrats. I wouldnā€™t say thereā€™s congruence but some similarities anyway. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3774 "2016-08-06T21:50:42Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > What? Andrew Jackson also appealed to populism, positioned himself as an outsider, had a sophomoric understanding of economics, rejected the basic premises of the constitution, and was into banishing whole groups based on their ethnicity. > > There may be more parallels there than to any other U.S. President. I do wonder if he is closer to Jackson or to [Buchanan](http://deadpresidents.tumblr.com/post/82207624776/i-am-the-last-president-of-the-united-states). ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3775 "2016-08-06T23:05:15Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > And if you thought the bar couldnā€™t possibly get any lower: > > [Trump Calls Clinton ā€˜Close to Unhinged,ā€™ Assures Heā€™s Pro-Baby](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-calls-clinton-close-unhinged-assures-he-s-pro-baby-n624036) > > Only in America, folkiesā€¦ Does he not understand how video works? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3776 "2016-08-06T23:07:17Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > Demented Cheeto? > > I saw the _Vulgar Talking Yam_ a while ago and it seemed a most excellent descriptor. Iā€™ve been referring to him as the Tangerine Nightmare. No idea where, If anywhere, i saw that. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3777 "2016-08-07T00:33:13Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > Demented Cheeto? > > I saw the _Vulgar Talking Yam_ a while ago and it seemed a most excellent descriptor. Totally stealing that one. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3778 "2016-08-07T01:18:50Z")
Unconfirmed reports that tonight **The Unbalanced Cheeto** gives a shout out to Al Baldasero, who called for HRC to be shot a few weeks ago. Also supposedly he restated that Khizr Khan is an agent for the Muslim Brotherhood. One source on Twitter, so Iā€™m saying unconfirmed for now. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3779 "2016-08-07T01:23:13Z")
Pollingā€™s all over the place. One says Hillary[up by 15%](https://gma.yahoo.com/video/poll-shows-donald-trump-down-111503846.html); one says Hillary [up by only 3%.](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290612-poll-clinton-up-3-points-over-trump) ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3780 "2016-08-07T01:26:21Z")
By the way, why does Trump have so much more Facebook followers? He has 10.2 million, nearly double Hillaryā€™s 5.4 million. Arenā€™t Democrats and the younger generation more likely to be Internet-connected? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3781 "2016-08-07T01:28:18Z")
Facebook is the realm of middle aged Americans now. Itā€™s like, so ten years ago. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/3782 "2016-08-07T01:33:10Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Pollingā€™s all over the place. One says Hillary[up by 15%](https://gma.yahoo.com/video/poll-shows-donald-trump-down-111503846.html); one says Hillary [**up by only 3%**.](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290612-poll-clinton-up-3-points-over-trump) Ignore. Online poll. No details on the other. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=188) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=190)