# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 202
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4023 "2016-08-11T03:12:08Z")
Ivanka DOES have nice breasts, but I don’t fantasize them as much as Trump seems to. Big people are saying that when she works on the campaign, he makes her walk around the office topless. I don’t know myself, but a lot of people are saying it. We’re going to look into this, believe me. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4024 "2016-08-11T03:40:25Z")
> [@tangent](#): > > oh, this is too good. > > At a rally in florida tonight, trump starts criticizing clinton because at one of her rallies recently the father of the orlando nightclub shooter was sitting in the stands just behind hillary. Trump then says when you’re giving a rally you should know who you put in the stands behind you. He gestures back to the people behind him and says they got those seats because they know him. > > One of those people sitting behind trump: Mark foley, former republican congressman who resigned in disgrace amidst allegations that he sent sexually explicit emails and instant messages to teenage boys working as congressional pages. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/donald-trump-mark-foley-campaign-rally/](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/donald-trump-mark-foley-campaign-rally/) Bwahahahahahahhh! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4025 "2016-08-11T05:07:27Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Oh, this is too good. > > At a rally in Florida tonight, Trump starts criticizing Clinton because at one of her rallies recently the father of the Orlando nightclub shooter was sitting in the stands just behind Hillary. Trump then says when you’re giving a rally you should know who you put in the stands behind you. He gestures back to the people behind him and says they got those seats because they know him. > > One of those people sitting behind Trump: Mark Foley, former Republican congressman who resigned in disgrace amidst allegations that he sent sexually explicit emails and instant messages to teenage boys working as congressional pages. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/donald-trump-mark-foley-campaign-rally/](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/donald-trump-mark-foley-campaign-rally/) Just goes to show, you can’t fix stupid… ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4026 "2016-08-11T06:14:37Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Not sure you picked the best example there. Check out [this graph](http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) of her approval ratings over that 24 years. “Wildly fluctuating” would be a fair description. Some of the troughs and peaks in her Gallup favorability rating during that time: > > 1992: 38% > 1994: 62% > 1996: 43% > 1999: 67% > 2001: 44% > 2004: 56% > 2007: 58% > 2008: 48% > 2009: 65% > 2012: 66% > > The latest Gallup number from this week is 39%. Her lowest point was in July, 37%. But there have been _three different times_ that she bounced back from ratings in the 40s or 30s to ratings well into the 60s, plus _another time_ that she just missed (2007, at 58%). And it was only four years ago that she enjoyed one of her highest ratings (66%). I’m not sure if there has ever been another case like this with a universally known public figure, but she’s definitely not the example to use to show that voters aren’t fickle in their opinions about people. My first thought was that I should have said Republicans not voters but not even sure that’s supported by the evidence above. I’ll withdraw the example. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4027 "2016-08-11T11:54:53Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [The man said ‘titties’ on live national television](https://twitter.com/nedostup/status/762733312095973376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw). There’s absolutely no getting around this one. Apparently not: [http://gawker.com/he-really-didnt-say-titties-1785049969](http://gawker.com/he-really-didnt-say-titties-1785049969) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4028 "2016-08-11T13:40:42Z")
[Too good to check: Sean Hannity’s tale of a Trump rescue.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/11/too-good-to-check-sean-hannitys-tale-of-a-trump-rescue/) > [@](#): > > “The Trump campaign has confirmed to [Hannity.com](http://Hannity.com) that Mr. Trump did indeed send his plane to make two trips from North Carolina to Miami, Florida to transport over 200 Gulf War Marines back home.” > > It seemed like such a sweet story — Donald Trump sending his personal plane down to Camp Lejeune, N.C., when 200 Marines were stranded after fighting in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. At least that is the story that Sean Hannity of Fox News has touted on his website for several months. Four Pinnochios > [@](#): > > Well, it turns out when Trump bought the shuttle from Eastern Airlines, he made a bad deal, accepting an additional five planes instead of a lower purchase price because the market had turned south. > > So some of those extra planes were contracted out to the U.S. military to ferry personnel in the United States during Operations Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991. Lt. Gen. Vernon J. Kondra, now retired, was in charge of all military airlift operations. He said that relying on commercial carriers freed up the military cargo aircraft for equipment transport. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4029 "2016-08-11T14:00:42Z")
Interesting analysis of Donald’s Twitter posting patterns from David Robinson, a data researcher at StackOverflow. > **[Text analysis of Trump's tweets confirms he writes only the (angrier) Android...](http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/)** > > I don’t normally post about politics (I’m not particularly savvy about polling, which is where data science has had the largest impact on politics). But this weekend I saw a hypothesis about Donald Trump’s twitter account that simply begged to be... Donald has a Samsung Galaxy 7. Someone else also posts to his Twitter account using an iPhone. Analyzing world usages and posting patterns, it’s likely that the iPhone poster is either a campaign staffer or maybe one of his kids. > [@David Robinson](#): > > My analysis, shown below, concludes that the **Android and iPhone tweets are clearly from different people** , posting during different times of day and using hashtags, links, and retweets in distinct ways. What’s more, we can see that **the Android tweets are angrier and more negative** , while the iPhone tweets tend to be benign announcements and pictures. Overall I’d agree with [@tvaziri](https://twitter.com/tvaziri)’s analysis: this lets us tell the difference between the campaign’s tweets (iPhone) and Trump’s own (Android). (emphasis in the original) There’s lots of graphs and charts and math at that link. I know some people enjoy that sort of thing. Robinson makes a few observations: > [@Robinson](#): > > A few observations: > > – **Most hashtags come from the iPhone.** Indeed, almost no tweets from Trump’s Android contained hashtags, with some rare exceptions like this one. (This is true only because we filtered out the quoted “retweets”, as Trump does sometimes quote tweets like this that contain hashtags). > > – **Words like “join” and “tomorrow”, and times like “7pm”, also came only from the iPhone.** The iPhone is clearly responsible for event announcements like this one (“Join me in Houston, Texas tomorrow night at 7pm!”) > > – **A lot of “emotionally charged” words, like “badly”, “crazy”, “weak”, and “dumb”, were overwhelmingly more common on Android.** This supports the original hypothesis that this is the “angrier” or more hyperbolic account. I think it would be a mistake to over-refine on this, and I say that admitting a lot of the math is over my head. I’m not really challenging the numbers. I just think this is more of a “hm” than a “hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm”. But still - I thought it was neat. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4030 "2016-08-11T14:07:46Z")
> [@](#): > > – Words like “join” and “tomorrow”, and times like “7pm”, also came only from the iPhone. The iPhone is clearly responsible for event announcements like this one (“Join me in Houston, Texas tomorrow night at 7pm!”) > > – A lot of “emotionally charged” words, like “badly”, “crazy”, “weak”, and “dumb”, were overwhelmingly more common on Android. This supports the original hypothesis that this is the “angrier” or more hyperbolic account. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4031 "2016-08-11T14:17:06Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Not sure you picked the best example there. Check out [this graph](http://www.gallup.com/poll/185324/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-one-worst.aspx) of her approval ratings over that 24 years. “Wildly fluctuating” would be a fair description. Some of the troughs and peaks in her Gallup favorability rating during that time: > > 1992: 38% > 1994: 62% > 1996: 43% > 1999: 67% > 2001: 44% > 2004: 56% > 2007: 58% > 2008: 48% > 2009: 65% > 2012: 66% > > The latest Gallup number from this week is 39%. Her lowest point was in July, 37%. But there have been _three different times_ that she bounced back from ratings in the 40s or 30s to ratings well into the 60s, plus _another time_ that she just missed (2007, at 58%). And it was only four years ago that she enjoyed one of her highest ratings (66%). I’m not sure if there has ever been another case like this with a universally known public figure, but she’s definitely not the example to use to show that voters aren’t fickle in their opinions about people. It appears that people like Hillary Clinton the person/politician more than Hillary Clinton the candidate or candidate’s wife, seeing how her numbers seem to dip when she or Bill were running for office. I’m not sure what that says about voters, but I’d put money down that as president next year her ratings will go up a lot from where they are now. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4032 "2016-08-11T14:39:49Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > > > [The man said ‘titties’ on live national television](https://twitter.com/nedostup/status/762733312095973376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw). There’s absolutely no getting around this one. > > Apparently not: > [http://gawker.com/he-really-didnt-say-titties-1785049969](http://gawker.com/he-really-didnt-say-titties-1785049969) So now we have two versions of what certainly appears to be the same moment in the same speech. In one it very clearly sounds like he says “titties”. In the other it very clearly sounds like he says “cities”. [Titties version on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJigwEikRwY) [Cities version on Gawker](http://gawker.com/he-really-didnt-say-titties-1785049969) I don’t see that Gawker article as proving much of anything one way or the other. The Gawker video is of poor quality and, at least on my computer, the sound is not synchronized well with the video. To be fair, that doesn’t necessarily prove anything but it _could_ be that the poor quality is meant to hide doctoring of the audio. Or the author could be right. The author of the Gawker article keeps mentioning a clear and obvious glitch in the “titties” version. I don’t hear any such glitch and apparently neither do any of his coworkers. He and Cenk of The Young Turks are seemingly the only ones who can hear the glitch. So what are we to believe? I have no idea. Is this an attempt to create some doubt about what really happened with a doctored video, or can two different audio feeds really record what clearly sound like different pronunciations of a ‘c’ sound versus a ‘t’ sound? Certainly Cenk Uygur is no Trump supporter but that doesn’t mean that he couldn’t be taken in by a doctored video. I’d like to know where his coworker found the Detroit Free Press version and how it came to his attention. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4033 "2016-08-11T14:48:37Z")
Still no official adverts from the Trump campaign? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4034 "2016-08-11T15:03:48Z")
That gawker article shows the wave pattern of the audio with a clear empty space but really, “titties” simply doesn’t make sense. Not in a “that Trump so crazy” way. If you look at the “Young Turks” clip, the version they show seems perfectly good quality and Trump saying “cities”. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Dgr-nZamfQ4/maxresdefault.jpg "Did Trump Just Say “Titties” During A Speech?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgr-nZamfQ4) (Skip to about 1:40) This isn’t like his normal “on purpose” gaffes anyways. Amusing rather than outrageous if true. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4035 "2016-08-11T15:44:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Still no official adverts from the Trump campaign? People are saying that Trump’s campaign is preparing an ad that denies Trump’s heavy funding and involvement with NAMBLA. Believe me, these are top people, very smart people who are saying this. Now I don’t know if this is true or not, that Trump is a founder of NAMBLA, but people are certainly talking about it. You tell me if it’s true or not. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4036 "2016-08-11T15:59:20Z")
That gag is wearing thin. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4037 "2016-08-11T16:07:14Z")
That gag never gets old. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4038 "2016-08-11T16:07:48Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > That gag is wearing thin. Are many people saying that? We can keep it up as long as The Sentient Cheeto keeps it up. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4039 "2016-08-11T16:12:25Z")
So 3 out 4 Dopers think pedophilia jokes never get old. Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4040 "2016-08-11T16:16:37Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > So 3 out 4 Dopers think pedophilia jokes never get old. Good to know. We’re just putting it out there about Trump and NAMBLA. You decide. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4041 "2016-08-11T16:21:53Z")
NAMBLA is the new Drumpf I guess. Just have to let you guys tire yourselves out. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4042 "2016-08-11T16:23:43Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > NAMBLA is the new Drumpf I guess. Just have to let you guys tire yourselves out. Not so much fun when the foot’s on the other hand, is it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=201) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=203)