# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 211
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4203 "2016-08-14T04:07:03Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > Yes, we have talked about this many times. Every single major group that’s against GMO is liberal; it’s a major plank of the Green Party. Pretty much every group working against nuclear power is liberal; it’s a major plank of the Green Party. Bernie Sanders was the only major candidate who wanted to shut down nuclear power plants. He was the only one who supported anti-GMO legislation. He was also the most liberal candidate by a long mile. His home state just passed a dumb-ass GMO labeling law. I don’t know how to make it any more plain: when it comes to GMO and nuclear power liberals as a whole have a greater irrational fear than conservatives. Piffle, as I showed to you then many of those anti GMO groups do boast that conservatives are supporting them too. But you do forget things like that that can hurt your narrative. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4204 "2016-08-14T05:54:46Z")
If you don’t vote for Trump, [he will never forgive you.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-we-are-making-a-big-move-for-connecticut/) > [@](#): > > “Can you imagine how badly I’ll feel if I spend all of that money, all of this energy, all of this time and lost?” Trump said. “I will never ever forgive the people of Connecticut. I will never forgive the people of Florida and Pennsylvania and Ohio, but I love them anyway. We’ll see. I think we’re gonna do very well.” ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4205 "2016-08-14T06:06:39Z")
From now on, everything the guy says is going to have an implied ‘LOL! JK! :p’ at the end of it. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4206 "2016-08-14T08:31:10Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If you don’t vote for Trump, [he will never forgive you.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-we-are-making-a-big-move-for-connecticut/) I think I will be able to live with myself. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4207 "2016-08-14T08:39:59Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > Yes, we have talked about this many times. The major difference being, liberals punch up (Monsanto, nuclear power companies) and Republicans punch down (immigrants, minorities, women). ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4208 "2016-08-14T10:28:39Z")
So Pence has said he is going to release his tax returns, and both Clinton and Kaine have already done so. Pence releasing his returns is only going to make it more unusual that Trump refuses to release his, making him the sole odd man out. > **[Mike Pence plans to release tax returns before election | CNN Politics](https://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/13/politics/mike-pence-donald-trump-tax-returns/)** > > Donald Trump's running mate, Mike Pence, said Saturday he plans to release his tax returns before Election Day, even as the GOP nominee has continued to resist calls to release his own tax returns. It’s hard to imagine that Trump wanted Pence to do this, there seems to be very little coordinating between Trump and Pence to set any kind of consistent messaging between them. I can well imagine that some time Pence will try to disavow something Trump has said and Trump will rebuke him in public and contradict him. I can’t imagine that Trump and Pence are going to last until election day without at least one public shitfight between them. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4209 "2016-08-14T11:03:32Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > It is said that Republicans, esp. conservatives, are born that way. Their brains are such that emotions (fear, hatred, etc) and simple solutions appeal to them. > > Dems, exposed to the same problems and the same social interactions as Reps, are the way they are because they have brains with more capacity to handle complexities. > > Republicans can be, and make themselves appear to be, much brighter, more in control of their lives, if they simply vote Democrat this fall. There seem to be many leading Republicants who are leaning that way, not supporting the Davy Crockett candidate (Crockett’s campaign consisted of telling the largest lies he could conceive about his very qualified opponent. He won the first time he tried it). > > If enough Republicants go that way, there is still hope their party can be salvaged. A small hope, perhaps, but some hope, nonetheless. > **[The Science of Conservative vs Liberal Brains](https://braindecoder.com/politics-neuroscience/)** > > Researchers have discovered that structural differences exist between the brains of conservatives and liberals. A websearch will show you almost universal agreement that there are differences, not only in structure, but also in ‘chemistry’, between people who identify themselves as Liberal and those choosing Conservative. Not only are we pre-wired, but we have great difficulty changing our orientation. Sorta like… So, when you and I argue about philosophical differences, neither of us is ever going to change. The arguments are for entertainment purposes and to help young folks make up their minds and get fired up. Nuclear power question. Not all Liberals think nuclear power is not a valid environmentally clean option. We do think, though, that managing the waste products is far more challenging than with solar, wave and wind power. Well, except for all the worn out storage batteries… ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4210 "2016-08-14T11:36:08Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > We do think, though, that managing the waste products is far more challenging than with solar, wave and wind power. Well, except for all the worn out storage batteries… This is getting off topic but one of the things that makes managing nuclear waste so challenging is the extreme over reactions and misunderstanding of anything nuclear. No one will allow nuclear waste to be carried through their own backyard or wants a nuclear waste storage facility near them, even if it’s in the middle of nowhere. Meanwhile coal power plants store massive piles of fly-ash in the open, which emits far more radiation than is ever allowed to escape from a nuclear plant. (another liberal greenie who’s in favour of nuclear power, as part of a solution to phasing out fossil fuels as quickly possible) ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4211 "2016-08-14T12:12:54Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Holy Fucking Shit. Republicans. I call out Republicans because Donald Trump is the nominee for fucking President that your party selected. Republicans, holy fucking shit. That kind of bullshit only flies on Fox “News”. Republicans, do the sane people in the world a favor: Pack it up. Just pack it all up and put it away. Try again in 4 years. Holy fucking junior high flunkout shit. There isn’t going to be a Republican Party in four years. This is their last gasp. Just sit back and enjoy the show as they flop around on the floor in a puddle. Then go out and vote for the candidate that isn’t a dead fish. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4212 "2016-08-14T12:44:58Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > So Pence has said he is going to release his tax returns, and both Clinton and Kaine have already done so. Pence releasing his returns is only going to make it more unusual that Trump refuses to release his, making him the sole odd man out. This will probably play out like the Paul Ryan endorsement. Trump will frame it as a magnanimous gesture to a supplicating Pence. "The tax returns? Yeah, Mike came to me. He asked me if he could release his tax returns. Mike is a good guy, one of the best guys. A smart guy. I wouldn’t have hand-picked him to be my VP otherwise. So he came to me and he said, ‘Mr. Trump, do you mind if I release my tax returns? Of course I won’t do that if it would cause you any problems. This is your call, not mine.’ “So I told him to go ahead and release his tax returns if he wants. What do I care? Mike is a good man, and if he wants to release his tax returns, of course I’ll let him.” ---
**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4213 "2016-08-14T13:08:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > This will probably play out like the Paul Ryan endorsement. Trump will frame it as a magnanimous gesture to a supplicating Pence. > > "The tax returns? Yeah, Mike came to me. He asked me if he could release his tax returns. Mike is a good guy, one of the best guys. A smart guy. I wouldn’t have hand-picked him to be my VP **otherwise**. So he came to me and he said, ‘Mr. Trump, do you mind if I release my tax returns? Of course I won’t do that if it would cause you any problems. This is your call, not mine.’ > > “So I told him to go ahead and release his tax returns if he wants. What do I care? Mike is a good man, and if he wants to release his tax returns, of course I’ll let him.” I, and I alone, did the bolding! Otherwise is a pretty big word for Trump. Just offering a friendly critique of your impersonation. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4214 "2016-08-14T14:02:26Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > I’m sorry, but what a bunch of self-serving poppycock. Liberals fall to fear (GMO, nuclear power) and hatred (the 1%, out-sourcers, pro-lifers\*) just as much as conservatives. Simple solutions are just as appealing to liberals. Sheesh. > > (\*-e.g. anyone who is pro-life must be misogynist.) Just as much? No. The GOP platform embraces anti-science. But while I’m a liberal, I completely agree that liberals are not remotely immune. Woo is embraced in many liberal circles. Many liberals are incredibly ignorant of science and it’s just luck that they are on the scientific side rather than the bullshit side. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4215 "2016-08-14T14:05:47Z")
As often, [it is Paul Krugman who offers a clear perspective](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/12/opinion/pieces-of-silver.html) on the modern Republican Party and Trumpism. > [@](#): > > So if you’re wealthy, or you’re someone who has built a career by reliably serving the interests of the wealthy, the choice is clear — as long as you don’t care too much about stuff like shunning racism, preserving democracy and freedom of religion, or for that matter avoiding nuclear war, Mr. Trump is your guy. > > And that’s pretty much how the Republican establishment still sees it. Getting rid of the estate tax is “the linchpin of the conservative movement,” one major donor told Bloomberg’s Sahil Kapur. Gotta get those priorities straight. > … > Recently Avik Roy, a leading Republican health-policy expert, had the personal and moral courage to admit what liberals (and political scientists) have been saying for years: “In reality, the gravitational center of the Republican Party is white nationalism.” > > Just to be clear, I’m not saying that top Republicans were or are personally bigoted — but that doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4216 "2016-08-14T16:23:14Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > There isn’t going to be a Republican Party in four years. This is their last gasp. Just sit back and enjoy the show as they flop around on the floor in a puddle. Then go out and vote for the candidate that isn’t a dead fish. They are going to have problems at the National level, but they are still firmly entrenched in our state and local governments. They aren’t going to magically disappear, people need to run for office and everyone needs to get out and vote, every election, not just every 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4217 "2016-08-14T17:53:40Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > They are going to have problems at the National level, but they are still firmly entrenched in our state and local governments. Trump’s efforts at the national level are a good start, then trickle down as the GOPers are fond of promoting. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4218 "2016-08-14T18:21:16Z")
Trump threatening to revoke more press credentials. > **[Trump Rails Against Press In Response To Reports Of Chaos](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-rails-against-press-in-response-to-reports-of-chaos_n_57afe6bbe4b069e7e50592fe)** > > “Maybe we’ll start thinking about taking their press credentials away from them.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4219 "2016-08-14T18:31:55Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Trump threatening to revoke more press credentials. > > [Trump Rails Against Press In Response To Reports Of Chaos | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-rails-against-press-in-response-to-reports-of-chaos_us_57afe6bbe4b069e7e50592fe) There is still no shame coming from Trump. Oh well, I will let him to continue to remind all about how he is worse than Nixon regarding his faulure to release his taxes and banning press groups. Yes, even Nixon’s head would be better than Cheeto Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4220 "2016-08-14T19:03:08Z")
The head of Richard Nixon, cyrogenically preserved, is brought back to life to save the party he once loved. There really are so many ways you can go with this. Sitcom? Sci-fi? Horror? Legal drama? Opera? I leave it for the world to develop… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4221 "2016-08-14T19:03:53Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If you don’t vote for Trump, [he will never forgive you.](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-we-are-making-a-big-move-for-connecticut/) > [@Lok](#): > > I think I will be able to live with myself. Y’know, it’ll be a struggle, but I… I think I should be able to, too. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4222 "2016-08-14T19:08:32Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The head of Richard Nixon, cyrogenically preserved, is brought back to life to save the party he once loved. > > There really are so many ways you can go with this. Sitcom? Sci-fi? Horror? Legal drama? Opera? I leave it for the world to develop… The world already did develop it. Nixon’s head is President of Earth on Futurama. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=210) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=212)