# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 223
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4443 "2016-08-17T05:46:57Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Wish I was smoking what you are. I just finished watching a replay of that speech there were two things I kept thinking: > [ol] > [li]Good god this guy does a shitty job of reading off a teleprompter.[/li][li]Nothing he is saying makes any sense. This speech is just a bunch of Trumpy soundbites strung together in a pathetically non-sensical way. [/li][/ol] > The lackluster response of the crowd to his \*\*\*\*speechifying \*\*\*\*just confirms my impression. not to worry. he’s currently taking " hillary speechifying " lessons . :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4444 "2016-08-17T05:55:11Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > not to worry. > he’s currently taking " hillary speechifying " lessons . :smack: But when she speechifies she has substance and policy to drone on about. Trump just babbles on and on repeating empty talking points and code words that appeal to the rabid right wingers who follow him. No substance. No policy. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4445 "2016-08-17T06:07:38Z")
BREAKING NEWS In an article to be run in the morning, the Wall Street Journal will announce that the decision has been made to place a layer between Manafort and Trump, with the campaign now being run by Breitbart’s Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway. > Rumors are of a bombshell Thursday story about Manafort. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4446 "2016-08-17T06:21:00Z")
One gremlin from the Kremlin too many. 🙂 I still remember when a Trump supporter in TV talked about “Personnel Is Policy”. Not much talk about that from the Trumpeters nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4447 "2016-08-17T06:22:08Z")
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4448 "2016-08-17T06:27:46Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > In an article to be run in the morning, the Wall Street Journal will announce that the decision has been made to place a layer between Manafort and Trump, with the campaign now being run by Breitbart’s Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway. Campaign managers from Breitbart. Some pivot. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4449 "2016-08-17T06:27:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/765780122389676032?s=09) Wondering if they meant to say “lawyer” (up) instead of “layers” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4450 "2016-08-17T06:32:10Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Campaign managers from Breitbart. > > Some pivot. From a guy who last was involved in an American political campaign in 1996 to a guy who was involved in an American political campaign in… never. Yeah, quite a pivot. Trump has the BEST Teams! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4451 "2016-08-17T07:47:17Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I think he’s engineering his exit from the race now, flipping the bird to as many rank and file Republicans as he can on his way out the door. Why else Milwaukee? Or Connecticut? He’s even scheduled to come here to Oregon in a couple of weeks. We’re not flippable. He’s gotta know this. I don’t think he _does_. Trump’s entire worldview can be summed up in three bullet points; 1. Donald Trump is very rich 2. Donald Trump is very smart 3. Everybody loves Donald Trump He _needs_ to believe that he’s universally loved. Blacks love him. Hispanics love him. Veterans love him. Women love him. Oregon and Connecticut love him, and the only reason he’s trailing there is because of the corrupt media, Crooked Hillary, and the rigged system, because if they were treating him fairly he’d win bigly just like he always does. What we’re seeing, what we’ve _been_ seeing the last year, isn’t a deliberate attempt at self-sabotage. It’s the clueless flailing of a narcissist who’s spent his entire life in a bubble of yes-men suddenly having to deal with people he can’t bully or fire. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4452 "2016-08-17T08:33:54Z")
Trump’s veteran relation advisor says he never said Clinton should be assassinated. No, she really should be shot by a firing squad. [I. . . I can’t even. . .](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/al-baldasaro-clinton-should-be-executed-not-assassinated) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4453 "2016-08-17T09:39:30Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Campaign managers from Breitbart. > > Some pivot. Since, IIRC, that site is a big fan of Trump, one might consider it an indication that he’s going to stay the course and not listen to outside advice. He seems to think he can get himself back into what happened in the primaries, and have the outcome be the same. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4454 "2016-08-17T10:00:28Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Since, IIRC, that site is a big fan of Trump, one might consider it an indication that he’s going to stay the course and not listen to outside advice. Yep. Robert Costa [just reported](https://twitter.com/costareports/status/765849610028015616) that “Bannon has convinced Trump that rest of campaign needs to be bare-knuckles brawl, w/ full-bore populism/movement politics.” Pretty please let it last. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4455 "2016-08-17T10:03:51Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > Ugh, I’m watching **Orange is the New Dumbass** give his Wisconsin Law & Order speech. Another name for the Great Trump Pseudonyms List. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4456 "2016-08-17T10:49:02Z")
[Here is a handy-dandy list of allegations and accusations Trump has made against Obama and Clinton.](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/here-are-allegations-trump-has-made-against-obama-clinton-n631746) The bribery charge is new to me even though he apparently said this in February. So I looked it up: [How in the Holy Hell did this get overlooked for 7 months?](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-eric-schneiderman-trump-university_us_57b2340ae4b0a8e15024e470) > [@](#): > > Trump didn’t quite accuse Obama of handing Schneiderman an envelope with $15,000 stuffed in it. Instead, Trump said, Obama appears to have arranged a campaign contribution to Schneiderman from a law firm representing victims of Trump’s scam. (Like Trump’s usual claims, there’s no evidence to support this one.) > > “The attorney general of New York meets with Barack Obama in Syracuse,” Trump said at a rally in Bentonville, Arkansas. “The following day he sues me. What they don’t say is, I believe, fifteen thousand or a lot of money was paid to the attorney general by the law firm in California that is suing me.” ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4457 "2016-08-17T10:56:30Z")
From the L&O speech: “the problem is that there are not enough police.” Yeah, that’s going to win you the Black vote… ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4458 "2016-08-17T10:59:03Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Yep. Robert Costa [just reported](https://twitter.com/costareports/status/765849610028015616) that “Bannon has convinced Trump that rest of campaign needs to be bare-knuckles brawl, w/ full-bore populism/movement politics.” > > Pretty please let it last. This is great. Trump is just incapable of understanding that his terrible polls are his fault, it must be Manafort’s fault, get rid of him get someone else in and double down. He’s managed to turn Texas purple… Texas!!! Yeehaw and pass the pop-corn. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4459 "2016-08-17T11:06:23Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > This is great. Trump is just incapable of understanding that his terrible polls are his fault, it must be Manafort’s fault, get rid of him get someone else in and double down. But Manafort isn’t being fired. Because when has Trump ever been known for firing anyone? This campaign is like a reality show where Charlie Sheen, Dennis Rodman, and Tom Arnold are supposed to work together to open up a lemonade stand. Hey, that would be entertaining to watch… ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4460 "2016-08-17T11:21:40Z")
Stealing from Nate Silver here. “Trump is pivoting, but 360°. Innovative.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4461 "2016-08-17T11:31:36Z")
That Thursday story I mentioned a few hours ago might be breaking early: [AP: Trump chair routed Ukrainian money to D.C. lobbyists - POLITICO](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/ap-trump-chair-routed-ukrainian-money-to-dc-lobbyists-227101#ixzz4HaVIagVz) Looks like Paul Manafort was laundering pro-Russian money into two DC lobbying firms, at least $2.2 million worth. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4462 "2016-08-17T11:36:31Z")
We’ve been speculating the Donald is being manipulated by Vladimir Putin into an unwitting ally. It’s starting to seem that Manafort is Donald’s handler. If that’s true, Manafort’s “demotion” is going to see some pushback from the Russian faction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=222) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=224)