# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 228
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4543 "2016-08-17T23:07:38Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > 100 plus days I am really not getting it. Isn’t 100 plus days on or about election day? Why would their omission invalidate the point? For all we know, the textbook the article is referencing may have the graph you seek. But regardless, the candidate leading around this point has won the last 16 elections. That’s pretty daunting for the Trump campaign. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4544 "2016-08-17T23:13:01Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I am really not getting it. Isn’t 100 plus days on or about election day? Why would their omission invalidate the point? For all we know, the textbook the article is referencing may have the graph you seek. But regardless, the candidate leading around this point has won the last 16 elections. That’s pretty daunting for the Trump campaign. I’m going to guess that he thinks it’s relevant that the conventions were as early as they were, so that there were 100 days between the end of the DNC and the election. Or, he may think Donald is gonna one-up (60 up) Jesus and sped 100 days in the desert eating freepers and honey. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4545 "2016-08-17T23:25:10Z")
They were early? I am no expert so just going by the wiki: > [@](#): > > Since 1952, all major party conventions have been held in the months of July, August or (for the first time in 2004), early September. Are they late August more recent years? Still, it’s within a couple weeks. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4546 "2016-08-17T23:29:12Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Sorry, you’re wrong.\*\* Polls 2 weeks out\*\* from the convention have good predictive value. > > [Presidential candidates leading polls at this point in the campaign have almost always won | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/8/11/12426346/trump-polls-today) it’s right there in Vox article graph. only data for each election is 60 days from end of convention until election. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4547 "2016-08-17T23:32:57Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > They were early? I am no expert so just going by the wiki: > > Are they late August more recent years? Still, it’s within a couple weeks. I don’t know how early, but I know they were early. I saw it referenced quite often. It has to do with campaign finance laws. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4548 "2016-08-17T23:40:04Z")
? Yes, the graph excerpted for the article only goes up to 60 days after the conventions. Are you saying the graph would stop it’s upward trend if the had expanded to 100 days? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4549 "2016-08-17T23:51:35Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > it’s right there in Vox article graph. > only data for each election is 60 days from end of convention until election. The major point of the article is in the written material: > [@](#): > > the candidate who was in the lead two weeks after the conventions ended went on to win the popular vote every single time. Every. Single. Time. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4550 "2016-08-18T00:01:54Z")
good reading past headline . Mcgovern , Mondale , Dukakis , & Kerry all held their conventions in July. hope that " trend " continues. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4551 "2016-08-18T00:11:28Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > It doesn’t matter what they tell him about major threats and emerging concerns – he won’t believe them anyway. > > [Personally, I would have waited to say this until after the briefing.](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/291700-trump-before-intelligence-briefing-i-dont-trust-intelligence) If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where? ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4552 "2016-08-18T00:16:29Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where? Ivanka has her ear to the ground in Croatia recently… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4553 "2016-08-18T00:17:58Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where? Twitter, I assume. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4554 "2016-08-18T00:20:24Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where? Simple. [Trump will consult with himself,](http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-foreign-policy-adviser-220853) “because he has a very good brain, and has said a lot of things.” Seriously. > [@](#): > > Asked on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” who he talks with consistently about foreign policy, Trump responded, “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things." And he’ll talk to people. He talks to lots of people, and at some point, he’ll maybe tell us who those people are. But mainly he does not need the US Intelligence agents, because he knows everything himself. Seriously. > [@](#): > > “I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are,” Trump said. “But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff." ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4555 "2016-08-18T00:31:44Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where? The evidence shows to me that Trump is a big time follower of conspiracy theories, so his sources (besides neo-nazi sites) are Alex Jones and their ilk. And Alex Jones already reported getting weirded out that Trump is talking about his mumbo jumbo. > **[“Totally Synced”: How Donald Trump And Alex Jones’ Conspiracy Theory Movement...](https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/totally-synced-how-donald-trump-and-alex-jones-conspiracy-theory-movement-speaks-one)** > [@](#): > > Alex Jones announced on his radio show this week that it has been “surreal to talk about issues here on air and then word-for-word hear [Donald] Trump say it two days later. It is amazing.” Indeed, as MSNBC’s Chris Hayes pointed out, it has been “completely surreal” to watch the Republican nominee for President of the United States echo the nation’s most prominent conspiracy theorist; but he’s done just that, repeatedly. > > During the campaign, Trump has echoed Jones’ conspiracy theories on several topics, including the leadership of ISIS, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, and the possibility of a “rigged” general election. Yep, as they say “Personnel Is Policy”, and the Breitbart people do love that stuff too. There are people that does believe that Trump will protect us, but in reality he is more likely to do the opposite when he is more willing to do huge goose chases based on what those mis-informers will tell him during his (less likely now) term in office. If he wins we will all be in trouble as he is more likely to engender many Americans as a result of trusting fringe and crazy sources of information. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4556 "2016-08-18T00:40:22Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I don’t know how early, but I know they were early. I saw it referenced quite often. It has to do with campaign finance laws. Well when I look at conventions since 1952, the period of time the article is talking about, they’re pretty all over the map. These are quite a bit earlier than the last couple but not really out of the ordinary. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4557 "2016-08-18T00:46:34Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where? Putin? ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4558 "2016-08-18T01:05:20Z")
seems Trump’s new guy , Steve Bannon , " destroyed Anthony Weiner’s career " !!😕 and we thought it was internet pics . 😃 Kellyann Conway is great addition . she’s great on tv . ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4559 "2016-08-18T01:21:32Z")
Ah! Then the Republic is secure. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4560 "2016-08-18T01:22:20Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > …If he wins we will all be in trouble as he is more likely to engender many Americans as a result of trusting fringe and crazy sources of information. He’s already engendered five. That’s enough of a blow to the species. Please, no more. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4561 "2016-08-18T01:46:33Z")
So, JohnL, when we are 60 or 30 days from Election Day, and your guy is still trailing bigly, will it mean anything then? I trust you will still be here, right? Kellyann good on TV? We have different definitions of good, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4562 "2016-08-18T01:54:54Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where? facebook and twitter, where else, duh? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=227) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901.md?page=229)