# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4603 "2016-08-18T05:07:18Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> see how easy this can be ?
> you don’t think polls will change after 1st debate.
> i do.
>
> all that other crap in post is irrelevant.
And I quote:
[QUOTE=john L]
…you’re just another critic w/ no evidence.
attack the messenger is your only rebut.
[/QUOTE]
So I have no evidence but you don’t have to?
This isn’t moving the goalposts…there are none.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4604 "2016-08-18T05:08:54Z")
If I can get a good history of present illness out of a four year old (and I can) I should be able to get a straight response out of a Trump supporter!
**john L** ,
1. Do you believe “polls will change after 1st debate” or not? “Yes” or “No” is fine.
2. If you believe they will change then in whose favor do you think they will change? “Clinton” or “Trump” is fine.
3. If you believe they will change then do you believe the change will significantly impact the likely outcome of the election? “Yes” or “No” is fine.
So far only three words required. Excuse that question 4 _potentially_ requests more …
1. If you believe that there will be a significant change based on the debate performance on what do you base that belief? (Feel free to resort to one word or a short phrase, like “gut”, or “just do”, or “Clinton sucks” if you must.)
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4605 "2016-08-18T05:09:21Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> another comprehension case here ? :rolleyes:
Nope, just another attempted insult. :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4606 "2016-08-18T05:18:47Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Well, john l, your premise was clearly stated in your earlier post:
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> So you DO think that the polls will change after the 1st debate. You said so.
> I would like to ask then: as you clearly stated, as quoted above, what underlies your thought that polls will significantly change in Trump’s favor after the first debate?
again… just like DSeid… false statement.
gonna let you mental giants figure out why.
it’s right there as you typed it.
you guys are so consumed w/ Trump bashing… you can’t think straight.
carry on.
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4607 "2016-08-18T05:24:57Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> And I quote:
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> So I have no evidence but you don’t have to?
>
> This isn’t moving the goalposts…there are none.
what evidence do i need to supply johnny ace ?:rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4608 "2016-08-18T05:27:17Z")
“Says who!?”
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4609 "2016-08-18T05:28:19Z")
Pickles are nice.
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4610 "2016-08-18T05:33:01Z")
> [@DSeid](#):
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> If I can get a good history of present illness out of a four year old (and I can) I should be able to get a straight response out of a Trump supporter!
>
> **john L** ,
>
> 1. Do you believe “polls will change after 1st debate” or not? “Yes” or “No” is fine.
>
> 2. If you believe they will change then in whose favor do you think they will change? “Clinton” or “Trump” is fine.
>
> 3. If you believe they will change then do you believe the change will significantly impact the likely outcome of the election? “Yes” or “No” is fine.
>
> So far only three words required. Excuse that question 4 _potentially_ requests more …
>
> 1. If you believe that there will be a significant change based on the debate performance on what do you base that belief? (Feel free to resort to one word or a short phrase, like “gut”, or “just do”, or “Clinton sucks” if you must.)
a smart feller like you that can take a 4 yr. pld’s hx … oughta be able to figure out where he went wrong w/o my ole dumbazz answers.
carry on. :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4611 "2016-08-18T06:45:17Z")
sorry guys.
snarky , cocky , stupid posts get snarky , cocky , stupid answers.
i can do it either way ya like… nice or nasty.
ya’ll also get several 10 yard penalties for " piling on " tonight. ha!
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4612 "2016-08-18T08:20:23Z")
That’s a first. You should feel privileged, you’re the only person to make my ignore list.
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### Author:  [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4613 "2016-08-18T08:34:07Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> sorry guys.
>
> snarky , cocky , stupid posts get snarky , cocky , stupid answers.
>
> i can do it either way ya like… nice or nasty.
>
> ya’ll also get several 10 yard penalties for " piling on " tonight. ha!
I haven’t made any posts to this point, so I can’t be included in this.
So I’ll ask politely, do you think the debates will change the polls in Trumps favour?
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4614 "2016-08-18T09:22:37Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> a smart feller like you that can take a 4 yr. pld’s hx … oughta be able to figure out where he went wrong w/o my ole dumbazz answers.
> carry on. :rolleyes:
Ah, the “I’m so brilliant you losers can’t hope to win against me, and my multiple incoherent posts are merely proof that I’m playing 4-dimensional chess with y’all” gambit. That’s always been a favorite approach for many of this board’s former posters.
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### Author:  [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4615 "2016-08-18T10:08:57Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> i’ve already said that 1st debate in sept. is pivot point for Trump.
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> he needs perception of win from public… not media.
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> how many times have you seen her on tv ?
I don’t know, about a zillion times I guess? Over an entire lifetime of being in the public eye.
If you are pointing to the fact you don’t see her on TV that much in the last few months, what is your point? You buying into the “health issues” theory?
If you are saying she can’t hold her own in a debate with Trump, then I think you are dead wrong on that. She may not be the chattering media whore that the camera can’t help focusing on, but she is smart, experienced, and actually knows WTF she is talking about. You know, like a serious candidate.
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4616 "2016-08-18T10:22:01Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> mr. mental giant …
> [@john\_L](#):
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> gonna let you mental giants figure out why.
This is a Warning that name calling and personal insults are not permitted outside The BBQ Pit.
Knock it off.
And your passive aggressive, snide remarks in which you refuse to answer direct questions regarding your own statements is not appropriate behavior, either.
Either actually participate in the discussion, or find somewhere else to post.
[/Moderating]
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4617 "2016-08-18T10:22:55Z")
**EVERYONE** , back off on the personal remarks.
[/Moderating]
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4618 "2016-08-18T10:32:50Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> That’s a first. You should feel privileged, you’re the only person to make my ignore list.
Do not post regarding [who is or who is not on your ignore list](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7697065#post7697065).
[/Moderating]
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### Author:  [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4619 "2016-08-18T11:13:13Z")
> [@leftfield6](#):
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> I don’t know, about a zillion times I guess? Over an entire lifetime of being in the public eye…
I think **john L** wasn’t talking about Hillary Clinton but about Kellyann Conway.
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### Author:  [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4620 "2016-08-18T13:11:58Z")
> [@amarinth](#):
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> If he doesn’t trust our intelligence, where does he expect to get information from? The FSB? MSS? A magic 8 ball? Where?
The National Enquirer.
> [@john\_L](#):
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> mr. mental giant …
> …" pivot point " was reference to point in time that he needs big positive change in polls for him to be elected.
>
> not how Trump campaigns. duh !
Okay, so what john L is saying is that Trump needs to win in the debates, and if he doesn’t his campaign is toast. No statement about how likely this is.
> [@john\_L](#):
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> see how easy this can be ?
> you don’t think polls will change after 1st debate.
> i do.
>
> all that other crap in post is irrelevant.
…Okay, never mind, he thinks that Trump will see some major increase in the polls afer the first debate…
> [@john\_L](#):
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> what a shame.
> wasted all those words on a false premise. as noted in bold above.
> carry on.
…Or maybe not. What.
This all makes _no_ sense. Barring some bizarre joker gambit, I think the next move is clear.
**Vote: john L**
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### Author:  [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4621 "2016-08-18T13:21:21Z")
First he used the pseudonym “John Barron”, then it was “John Miller”, now **john l** …
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### Author:  [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4622 "2016-08-18T14:10:27Z")
Is this still the thread for discussing " Donald Trump’s 2016 General Election Campaign"?
If so, the elevation of Steve Bannon, the executive chairman of the right-wing site Breitbart News, to be the Trump campaign’s chief executive is billed as a “surprising and befuddling twist.”
[QUOTE=Will Ritter, a Republican political operative in Virginia who isn’t supporting Trump]
Another guy is going to ride the psychotic horse into a burning stable.
[/QUOTE]
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