# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4683 "2016-08-19T00:08:31Z")
The Breitbart people recently ordered a poll made by Gravis to show that all the other polls were biased, they found that Trump was down by 5.
[More sad trombone sounds]
In a very similar vein the Fox people in Georgia ordered a poll, and it shows that right now Trump and Clinton are **tied** in the usual red State.
[http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/193417494-story](http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/193417494-story)
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> New FOX 5 poll: Georgia now a battleground state
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> The FOX 5 poll conducted by Opinion Savvy shows Democrat Clinton and Republican Trump tied at 43 percent.
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> Libertarian Gary Johnson is at 11 percent and 3 percent are undecided.
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### Author:  [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4684 "2016-08-19T00:15:33Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> The Breitbart people recently ordered a poll made by Gravis to show that all the other polls were biased, they found that Trump was down by 5.
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> [More sad trombone sounds]
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> In a very similar vein the Fox people in Georgia ordered a poll, and it shows that right now Trump and Clinton are **tied** in the usual red State.
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> [http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/193417494-story](http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/193417494-story)
Georgia in play. That’s amazing.
Being a Georgia resident, I’m hoping the down-ballot effects will be significant.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4685 "2016-08-19T00:15:54Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> The Breitbart people recently ordered a poll made by Gravis to show that all the other polls were biased, they found that Trump was down by 5.
That’s just crazy. Anyone knows that in order to get an unbiased poll, you need to do it at a Trump rally. Otherwise how on earth will you know what the people really think?
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4686 "2016-08-19T00:23:11Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> i’ve already said that 1st debate in sept. is pivot point for Trump.
> he needs perception of win from public… not media.
> [@john\_L](#):
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> was just my opinion.
> a gallup link doesn’t change it. :rolleyes:
> [@john\_L](#):
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> you guys need to stop long enough to actually read what is posted , before you jump off into ya **" we know what you meant "** **analysis that you like to do**.
> [@john\_L](#):
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> …" pivot point " was reference to point in time that he needs big positive change in polls for him to be elected.
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> not how Trump campaigns. duh !
> [@john\_L](#):
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> ??? not sure what that has to do w/ anything.
> unless you think polls will remain the same after 1st debate . ??
> [@john\_L](#):
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> you don’t think polls will change after 1st debate.
> i do.
> [@DSeid](#):
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> **john L**
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> The question **john L** is what underlies your thought that polls will significantly change\*\* in Trump’s favor\*\* after the first debate?
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Well, john l, your premise was clearly stated in your earlier post:
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> So you DO think that the polls will change after the 1st debate. You said so.
> I would like to ask then: as you clearly stated, as quoted above, what underlies your thought that polls will significantly[\*\*B] \*\*\*\*change in Trump’s favor \*\*\*\*after the first debate?
> [@DSeid](#):
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> I
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> **john L** ,
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> 1. Do you believe “polls will change after 1st debate” or not? “Yes” or “No” is fine.
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> **yes**
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> 1. If you believe they will change then in whose favor do you think they will change? “Clinton” or “Trump” is fine.
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> \*\* the one public perceives as winning debate\*\*
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never did i say " polls\*\* will change in Trump’s favor after 1st debate "\*\*
that was simply made up by others.
nobody knows who’ll win 1st debate.
i don’t - you don’t.
but public’s perceived winner should get a boost in polls.
if Trump is still behind in polls by Sept 26 1st debate date… he may need a win
in 1st debate in order to remain viable in election. ?? ie-- pivot point. we’ll see.
then again … if he continues giving killer speeches like the one he’s giving in Charlotte , N. C. right now … he may be ahead in polls by then. ha!
prolly best speech yet tonight ! seems that staff shake up is working !
even said he " regrets past comments that caused personal pain for others "
(paraphrased ) . a 1st for him.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4687 "2016-08-19T00:33:19Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> never did i say " polls\*\* will change in Trump’s favor after 1st debate "\*\*
> that was simply made up by others.
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> nobody knows who’ll win 1st debate.
> i don’t - you don’t.
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> but public’s perceived winner should get a boost in polls.
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> if Trump is still behind in polls by Sept 26 1st debate date… he may need a win
> in 1st debate in order to remain viable in election. ?? ie-- pivot point. we’ll see.
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> then again … if he continues giving killer speeches like the one he’s giving in Charlotte , N. C. right now … he may be ahead in polls by then. ha!
> prolly best speech yet tonight ! seems that staff shake up is working !
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> even said he " regrets past comments that caused personal pain for others "
> (paraphrased ) . a 1st for him.
I like your optimism! Please stick around until after the election, okay?
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4688 "2016-08-19T01:08:43Z")
I’m pretty sure that Trump will regress to the mean between now and Election Day. Campaign shakeups are like the convention; you get a bump, then the newness wears off.
Trump has already said he has not plans on changing his approach. Look for him to go off-script again, and it’ll be business as usual for the Human Cheeto.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4689 "2016-08-19T01:12:44Z")
Kayleigh McEnany just said (on CNN) that African Americans have a 58% unemployment rate. This includes high school and college students. She doesn’t understand how this is misleading.
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### Author:  [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4690 "2016-08-19T01:13:25Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> then again … if he continues giving killer speeches like the one he’s giving in Charlotte , N. C. right now … he may be ahead in polls by then. ha!
> prolly best speech yet tonight ! seems that staff shake up is working !
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> even said he " regrets past comments that caused personal pain for others "
> (paraphrased ) . a 1st for him.
I just watched the portion of the speech where he gives his “regret” comments. Maybe I’m overly cynical, but if you watch his mannerisms and pauses, complete with his smirking/making faces to the audience during multiple pauses, I don’t get any sincerety out of this.
It really looked like he was mugging for the crowd as if to say “look at the crap I have to say to be politically correct, can you believe it?”
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### Author:  [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4691 "2016-08-19T01:15:49Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> then again … if he continues giving killer speeches like the one he’s giving in Charlotte , N. C. right now … he may be ahead in polls by then. ha!
> prolly best speech yet tonight ! seems that staff shake up is working !
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> even said he " regrets past comments that caused personal pain for others "
> (paraphrased ) . a 1st for him.
Considering the work of some of his new campaign staff, and his self proclaimed determination not to change who he is and to attack Clinton hard, pardon if I express skepticism that this change in tack has anything to do with his new staff, or that it’ll last.
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### Author:  [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4692 "2016-08-19T01:17:14Z")
> [@leftfield6](#):
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> It really looked like he was mugging for the crowd as if to say “look at the crap I have to say to be politically correct, can you believe it?”
“When I said that, I was regretful, but not that regretful, to be honest with you.”
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4693 "2016-08-19T01:25:52Z")
Here’s a fun one. The Trump campaign collected a bunch of positive media quotes about his law order speech and posted them [here](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/what-they-are-saying-about-trumps-excellent-law-and-order-speech).
Like this one here…
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> The Associated Press’ Jill Colvin: “Trump Sounds Like He’s Talking Directly To African Americans…” ([Twitter.com](http://Twitter.com), 8/16/16)
I wonder what was left off in that ellipsis. The original tweet is [here](https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/765738458795151360).
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> Trump sounds like he’s talking directly to African Americans, but I don’t see a single non-white person in the crowd
Firstly, why would the Trump campaign use media quotes as support after repeatedly telling anyone who would listen that the media is dishonest?
Secondly, why do it in such a transparently dishonest manner?
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### Author:  [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4694 "2016-08-19T01:27:10Z")
> [@ganthet](#):
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> “When I said that, I was regretful, but not that regretful, to be honest with you.”
“I regret that [I have been told] I have to say these things.”
Kind of like the classic insincere Non-apology apology, to wit, “I’m sorry you feel that way.”
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4695 "2016-08-19T01:40:20Z")
> [@leftfield6](#):
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> I just watched the portion of the speech where he gives his “regret” comments. Maybe I’m overly cynical, but if you watch his mannerisms and pauses, complete with his smirking/making faces to the audience during multiple pauses, I don’t get any sincerety out of this.
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> It really looked like he was mugging for the crowd as if to say “look at the crap I have to say to be politically correct, can you believe it?”
> [@Leaper](#):
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> Considering the work of some of his new campaign staff, and his self proclaimed determination not to change who he is and to attack Clinton hard, pardon if I express skepticism that this change in tack has anything to do with his new staff, or that it’ll last.
i’ve watched most of his speeches ( cspan ).
tonight was different.
more relaxed … but still kept to teleprompter script.
shorter than usual too.
something’s changed.
he’d never make " regret " remark in past. women oughta like that.
we’ll see.
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### Author:  [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4696 "2016-08-19T01:45:40Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> i’ve watched most of his speeches ( cspan ).
> tonight was different.
> more relaxed … but still kept to teleprompter script.
> shorter than usual too.
> something’s changed.
> he’d never make " regret " remark in past. women oughta like that.
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> we’ll see.
Why should women like that?
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### Author:  [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4697 "2016-08-19T01:49:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Kayleigh McEnany just said (on CNN) that African Americans have a 58% unemployment rate. This includes high school and college students. She doesn’t understand how this is misleading.
For much of American history, blacks enjoyed 100% employment. That all came to an end when the government got in the way of free enterprise. Thanks, Lincoln!!
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4698 "2016-08-19T01:54:42Z")
> [@raventhief](#):
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> Why should women like that?
The 19th Amendment people, maybe they can do something about it.
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4699 "2016-08-19T01:59:37Z")
> [@raventhief](#):
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> Why should women like that?
" let’s have a conversation " women . :rolleyes:
repentance.
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### Author:  [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4700 "2016-08-19T02:02:57Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> " let’s have a conversation " women . :rolleyes:
> repentance.
You know you don’t get charged by the word here, right? Also capital letters are no extra charge. You make every post as cryptic as possible, is that for effect?
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### Author:  [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4701 "2016-08-19T02:04:33Z")
> [@leftfield6](#):
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> You know you don’t get charged by the word here, right? Also capital letters are no extra charge. You make every post as cryptic as possible, is that for effect?
You really think his dig at women is cryptic?
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4702 "2016-08-19T02:05:40Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> i’ve watched most of his speeches ( cspan ).
> tonight was different.
> more relaxed … but still kept to teleprompter script.
> shorter than usual too.
> something’s changed.
> he’d never make " regret " remark in past. women oughta like that.
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> we’ll see.
Just words, only when Trump publicly repudiates his joined to the hip racial profiler and convicted contempt of court Sheriff Joe Arpaio I will consider that his empty words have some meaning to the Hispanic community that he has insulted several times.
He also should dump his joined, to his other hip, bigoted guys from Breitbart:
> **[What You Need To Know About The Trump Campaign’s New Chief Executive And His...](https://www.mediamatters.org/breitbart-news/what-you-need-know-about-trump-campaigns-new-chief-executive-and-his-bigoted-website)**
But Trump will not. Fine with me, because to the target rich environment of just Trump’s behavior and past we can add the racism and bigotry of his personnel and friends; we then have a good idea of what to expect from a Trump administration. Nothing good and a road to deterioration.
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