# Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901 "2016-05-04T02:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4883 "2016-08-21T06:19:18Z")
Okay, so the big impact of “lotsa bad WH stuff out this week” is … staying within the current MOE? Where he’s been up and down from throughout the month? You believe that that (statistically insignificant) drop would be what will get voters to listen for reasons to vote for Trump by way of Clinton’s being tied to Obama?
Really?
Indeed he is more popular now than he has been since the first month of his second term. Being tied to him right now is deal done a good thing for her.
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### Author:  [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4884 "2016-08-21T06:25:25Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Well if they’re informed, responsible voters then they already understand that the governor specifically asked Obama not to come and praised the White House for its support.
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> If they’re uninformed, irresponsible voters, then something something Republican voter base.
I’m still waiting for Kanye West to give a speech about how Obama hates black people.
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### Author:  [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4885 "2016-08-21T06:37:02Z")
[A link I came across to some tweets about a recent Trump rally.](https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/trump-rally-tweets-jared-yates-sexton/)
One of them notes that Trump, in the view of the tweeting reporter, seemed to be a more disciplined Breitbart megaphone in his speech. I wonder if that’ll last.
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### Author:  [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4886 "2016-08-21T06:42:10Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> And it says something that people believe that he would just show up and deliver Play-Doh.
Puh-lease! The Orange Idiot didn’t just bring ordinary Play-Doh. He brought exclusive, private label, five star Play-Doh from the Mar-a-Lago. The finest Play-Doh money can buy. Anyone who lost their home would immediately forget their worries and dance for joy at the sight of this big league Play-Doh.
And yes, he brought Silly Putty and Krazy Straws too. All the essentials.
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4887 "2016-08-21T06:53:01Z")
> [@DSeid](#):
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> Okay, so the big impact of “lotsa bad WH stuff out this week” is … staying within the current MOE? Where he’s been up and down from throughout the month? You believe that that (statistically insignificant) drop would be what will get voters to listen for reasons to vote for Trump by way of Clinton’s being tied to Obama?
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> Really?
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> Indeed he is more popular now than he has been since the first month of his second term. Being tied to him right now is deal done a good thing for her.
obama’s been lucky.
in normal news cycle , he’d prolly drop several points , just on big lie about ransom. as is , only 1-2-3 , if that.
but media is so Trump bash focused , nothing else is heard by public now.
Clinton / Obama knot will last until nov 8.
that’s when it’ll matter !
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### Author:  [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4888 "2016-08-21T07:02:21Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Puh-lease! The Orange Idiot didn’t just bring ordinary Play-Doh. He brought exclusive, private label, five star Play-Doh from the Mar-a-Lago. The finest Play-Doh money can buy. Anyone who\*\* lost their home\*\* would immediately forget their worries and dance for joy at the sight of this big league Play-Doh.
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> And yes, he brought Silly Putty and Krazy Straws too. All the essentials.
that is pure sicko rambling to be laughing at the flood victims and their kids like that.
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### Author:  [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4889 "2016-08-21T07:31:33Z")
> [@CarnalK](#):
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> doesn’t matter.
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> obama isn’t in election.
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> play-doh was appreciated I’m sure.
And condoms. Don’t forget condoms.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4890 "2016-08-21T07:53:22Z")
Trump to announce amnesty for millions of [drug smugglers, criminals and rapists](http://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/trump-to-introduce-reforms-to-legalize-some-undocumented-immigrants):
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> Trump told the group of conservative Hispanic leaders he would announce a plan to grant legal status “that wouldn’t be citizenship but would allow them to be here without fear of deportation.” said Monty.
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> …
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> Trump told the group of conservative Hispanic leaders he would announce a plan to grant legal status “that wouldn’t be citizenship but would allow them to be here without fear of deportation.” said Monty.
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### Author:  [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4891 "2016-08-21T10:12:03Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> And it says something that people believe that he would just show up and deliver Play-Doh.
Yes. It says that, based on his past behavior, very little would surprise us. He’s already done other things that are at that level of strange and stupid.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4892 "2016-08-21T10:46:01Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump to announce amnesty for millions of [drug smugglers, criminals and rapists](http://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/trump-to-introduce-reforms-to-legalize-some-undocumented-immigrants):
Sorry about that redundancy. The first quote should have been this:
> [@](#):
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> Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump plans to present an immigration plan in Colorado Thursday that will include finding a way to legalize millions of undocumented immigrants, according to three people who attended a meeting between the candidate and Hispanic leaders on Saturday at Trump Tower in New York.
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### Author:  [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4893 "2016-08-21T11:26:03Z")
I watched his rally in Virginia yesterday.
When he started talking about how he wants the GOP to be the party of African Americans, there was mostly dead silence, and actually a couple of catcalls (as I’ve predicted). The crowd was confused. They managed to cheer when he said “Abraham Lincoln”.
This flip flop gambit is about trying to peel off some undecideds. But he risks getting called out by his own supporters, as well as everyone else.
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### Author:  [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4894 "2016-08-21T11:40:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Sorry about that redundancy. The first quote should have been this:
What Trump risks by coming a little towards the middle of the road is losing the extreme edges of his crazy coalition. If he keeps making conciliatory gesture towards African-Americans and Latinos, some of his white nationalists and racist are going to start seeing him as weak.
He risks a few of the right-fringe wackos just deciding not to vote if they see him as being okay with Mexicans not getting loaded onto cattle cars and sent south of the border. They are fired up by the “Mexicans are rapists” guy, not the “some, I assume are good people” guy.
**johnL** keeps pointing out these “hidden votes” that Trump is going to have flocking to the polls on election day. First off, if a Clinton supporter said that, there would be screams of “rigged election, rigged election!” But these “hidden voter” that the polls aren’t catching are, in **johnL** ’s world, the people who secretly want to vote for Trump, but won’t confess it openly. But aren’t these also the people who are going to be turned off by Trump sounding a little flexible on immigration? Can’t have it both ways.
And bullshit anyway on this whole polls are wrong thing. Trump has not been able to fool the polls, not once. The polls kept telling everyone that he could and eventually would win the nomination. The problem was the human element reading the polls. Nate Silver of 538 has publicly admitted that he just did not believe the numbers. He did not think the Republicans would really yoke themselves to a Trump candidacy. The number were right all the time.
You know who else was getting routinely trounced in the polls and all of his supporters kept saying the numbers were wrong? The guy who HAS NOT been President the last four years, \*\*citizen \*\*Mitt Romney.
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4895 "2016-08-21T13:59:01Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> I’ve seen similar. The right-wingers are insistent that Louisiana’s Governor is just covering for Obama. The American right is, for lack of a better term, mad.
I have a bad feeling Obama’s visit to Louisiana could get ugly. The anti-Obama contingent in some parts of the country, especially in Dixie, is indeed bark-at-the-moon mad, and racist. Wouldn’t be surprised to see racist chants or signage. I hope I’m wrong but it wouldn’t surprise me.
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4896 "2016-08-21T14:02:36Z")
> [@octopus](#):
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> I’m still waiting for Kanye West to give a speech about how Obama hates black people.
Because you have such deep respect for Kanye West’s personal opinions?
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4897 "2016-08-21T14:04:14Z")
> [@leftfield6](#):
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> What Trump risks by coming a little towards the middle of the road is losing the extreme edges of his crazy coalition. If he keeps making conciliatory gesture towards African-Americans and Latinos, some of his white nationalists and racist are going to start seeing him as weak.
Even among white bigots, there are “good blacks” like Allen West, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas. When I was growing up in Louisiana, I used to hear a lot of ‘progressive’ whites say "I don’t hate all blacks, I just can’t stand n!ggers.’ Trump will probably have a few ‘good black’ faces in the crowd and try to appeal to a few more and his confederacy of bigots will be fine with it. Trump’s occasionally dog-whistled the anti-black bigots but his clarion calls have been against immigrants, and that’s where this race is going to get extremely vicious over the next 60 days.
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### Author:  [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4898 "2016-08-21T14:05:51Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> obama’s been lucky.
> in normal news cycle , he’d prolly drop several points , just on big lie about ransom. as is , only 1-2-3 , if that.
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> but media is so Trump bash focused , nothing else is heard by public now.
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> Clinton / Obama knot will last until nov 8.
> that’s when it’ll matter !
Got it. You are saying that this “lotsa bad” week for Obama, that I should “check gallup middle of next week” over, will not have a significant impact on Obama’s approval ratings this week because the public is not hearing anything other than Trump bashing right now, in what you have been describing as a week in which he has been giving some excellent speeches that should turn it around for him. But the impact of this bad week (and possibly other Obama disasters you expect to happen) _will_ make his approval drop dramatically and bring down Clinton by her being tied to him, by Election Day.
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### Author:  [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4899 "2016-08-21T14:07:48Z")
> [@leftfield6](#):
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> **johnL** keeps pointing out these “hidden votes” that Trump is going to have flocking to the polls on election day. First off, if a Clinton supporter said that, there would be screams of “rigged election, rigged election!” But these “hidden voter” that the polls aren’t catching are, in **johnL** ’s world, the people who secretly want to vote for Trump, but won’t confess it openly. But aren’t these also the people who are going to be turned off by Trump sounding a little flexible on immigration? Can’t have it both ways.
The “hidden voters” thing is just wishful thinking. Trump doesn’t have a Get Out The Vote strategy. [He doesn’t think it’s important.](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291244-trump-i-dont-know-that-we-need-to-get-out-the-vote) He barely has a campaign staff at all. He’s not going to put together a GOTV team from scratch, in the next two months.
There’s a reason why amateurs don’t win Presidential campaigns. This is that reason, on display for all to see.
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### Author:  [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4900 "2016-08-21T14:16:11Z")
> [@Merneith](#):
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> The “hidden voters” thing is just wishful thinking. Trump doesn’t have a Get Out The Vote strategy. [He doesn’t think it’s important.](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291244-trump-i-dont-know-that-we-need-to-get-out-the-vote) He barely has a campaign staff at all. He’s not going to put together a GOTV team from scratch, in the next two months.
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> There’s a reason why amateurs don’t win Presidential campaigns. This is that reason, on display for all to see.
At the very least, Trump should have campaigned for governor or other state office in the past, even if he lost. He could have worked out what worked and what didn’t before he got to the national level. I guess he just fixates how he won the primaries and doesn’t get that things are very different in a general election. But, I’m all for him losing no matter the reasons
I do wonder what his kids think about his turn to Bannon and his Brietbart insiders. After all, he did make that swap when Ivanka and her husband were out of the country.
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### Author:  [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4901 "2016-08-21T14:26:23Z")
> [@john\_L](#):
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> that is pure sicko rambling to be laughing at the flood victims and their kids like that.
Hah! I see your feint, and I parry THUS…with SARCASM!
Hey, **AnalogSignal**! Why you got to Disrespect the Troops like that?
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/donald-trumps-2016-general-election-campaign/753901/4902 "2016-08-21T15:11:08Z")
Just a few little details still to be worked out in the Trump Administration’s immigration policy: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/21/politics/kellyanne-conway-donald-trump-deportation-force-tbd/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/21/politics/kellyanne-conway-donald-trump-deportation-force-tbd/index.html)
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